Like Nikon did with the ZF, this is the only release I wish from Canon in 2026, Is this realistic?

zamorano said:

but for the rest I don't think it is (show me a nice RF-S lens?) They could have brought over some EF-M lenses to the RF mount, as various EOS-Ms were number one sellers for years, but I'd say their priorities lie elsewhere.

Click to expand...

It depends on what you consider "nice". With the possible exception of the RF-s 55-210, all the RF-s lenses reasonably support the resolution of the R7, whereas many of the EF-s lenses were looking long in the tooth on a 90D. I agree that bringing the EF-M 22mm and 32mm lenses over would be nice, but the RF 16mm pancake and RF 28mm f/2.8 are both excellent for RF-s use, and maybe the deal with Sigma is designed to let them have a chunk of that space. Remember, the overall market is much smaller than it was 10 years ago, so too much duplication is not cost-effective for manufacturers even if it seems attractive from a consumer perspective. It is notable that if fast is equivalent to "nice", then Sigma has that base pretty well covered https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/Mirrorless-Camera-Lenses/ci/17912/N/4196380428?filters=fct_brand_name:sigma:REGULAR,fct_lens-mount_3442:canon-rf:REGULAR and that may well be the plan given the limited overall market.

Has anyone tried the Canon Neural Network Tool in DPP4? If so, how does it compare with DxO PL, Photoshop, Lightroom etc?

justaCanonuser said:

I wouldn't regard the RF 600 and 800mm f/11 as any sort of RF mount successor to the EF 400mm F/4.0 DO L lenses. [...] But looking at the faster RF tele lens selection available today, I miss such a lens.

Click to expand...

I agree they aren't successors to the EF 400 DO but undoubtedly when the RF lineup was being planned, sales of various older lenses were analysed and some were sacrificed - there's been no RF 500 and apparently there won't be. And of course mirrorless has given them more options - reliable autofocus at f/11 couldn't have been dreamt of in the DSLR days. The 400 DO was always a niche within a niche. When the prototype 600 DO was shown, it generated some excitement but was never turned into a commercial product - we can speculate why.

justaCanonuser said:

Maybe Nikon forces Canon to come up with something competitive

Click to expand...

Given the relative positions of the two companies now, I very much doubt that will happen. And as you say, it would take a long time. As Neuro has suggested before, perhaps Nikon has targeted those niches that Canon doesn't provide for not because they want to usurp the leader, but because they can't compete in the other areas? I'm sure all the manufacturers pay close attention to what the others are doing, but there is a persistent belief on here that they should all replicate the same lineup, and I don't think that is logical.

Nothing yet...

I currently have R3, and I feel upgrades for R1 don't justify the upgrade price. The biggest feature for me would be the pre-capture, but that alone doesn't justify the upgrade. I have big event in May 2027 and I'm quite sure I'll upgrade before that. There's another big-ish in July 2026 so upgrade before that would be nice but before May 2027 for sure. If R3-2 delivers good performance and pre-capture, I think more likely I'd get that one than R1. If there's R1-2 coming within next 12 months, that'd be interesting but I'm very doubtful we'll see R1-2 before 2028

Alastair Norcross said:

Luckily, each of my fingers has two joints.

Click to expand...

My fingers even have three joints, but none of them move latitudinally as much as the new power switch requires

I added this in a later reply:

m4ndr4ke said:

I prefer the power switch on the left, but I know I could use it on the right, I would easily deal with that. However, it's not on the right, currently, it's at the top and aimed at the front. The thumb can't get there, the index finger needs to bend, it's just not a good design, in my opinion.

Same issue for the lock switch, specifically because it's aimed at the front. For instance, the RP has the lock switch in the same place, but aimed at the right, which is great, since the thumb can easily reach it. You can lock and unlock without having to adjust the right hand entirely.

Click to expand...

alFR said:

I guess your choices are:

• Ebay
• Local dealer who buys second-hand kit (in the UK there are loads e.g. Wex, LCE: assume there must be some in Belgium?)
• MPB etc.
• Other online marketplace e.g. Facebook

EBay / Facebook come with the attendant hassles of time-wasters and scammers. You’ve already rejected MPB so local dealer? Odd that the MPB price was so low though, there’s a like new one on their UK site for £5749 - that’s a lot of margin (unless yours is trashed ).

Click to expand...

Their mark up tends to be a about 40% in the UK (that of course allows for VAT, postage and warranty). WEX and MPB seem to offer the same price in my experience. I've sold over eBay with no problems and very satisfied customers, but I then found it easier to take a slightly lower price with less hassle from MPB. But eBay is now more competitive as they have lowered their fees.

I don't do wider than 24 very often and I was torn between this and the RF 16. This won. Laowa has been impressing me for quite some time now. Great choices!

Michael T said:

I would think the RF 24-70mm f2.8 mark ii is next. When introduced both the RF 24-70mm and 70-200 f2.8’s were pumper zooms, which historically had been used on lower priced Canon and Nikkor lenses. Canon introduced the RF 70-200 f2.8 Z a non-pumper. I upgraded to this last week. I see that Nikkor upgraded their Z 24-70 f2.8, moving from pumper to non-pumper in their mark ii version. I would think it just around the corner.

Click to expand...

“which historically had been used on lower priced Canon and Nikkor lenses”: like the EF 24-70mm f2.8 L and EF 100-400mm L lenses (both version I and II), like the RF100-500mm L lens? Canon and Nikon use(d) the extending design to keep the size (relatively) compact.

Photo quality of the pancake is nice, but I need an AF that works better than my 28mm EF so I'll have to skip...

Ive had this camera since it came out and have shot in the rain for over three hours and in a windstorm with beach sand blowing all over and with no problems what so ever. So as far as I am concerned its a professional camera and I also have an R1 and would take this camera with me anytime

"Let's admit the obvious, as it is right now the Canon FLASH system is kind of dead in the water, and they know it themselves also"

I think you are correct, Canon knows that they over designed their control and screwed it up, and priced themselves out of the biggest sector of the market.
My camera shop laughed when I asked them to order 2x EL 5 flashes.
He said, he almost never sells branded flash gear today.

I was shooting a museum curator last week with one EL5 on a stand and a shoot thru umbrella and it lost sync in the middle of a 10 minute shoot!
I pop the battery and in connects again.

I have found neither perform in a solid manner

It makes me want to go back to a Vivitar 285 and a quantum battery pack!



"they were trying to engineer the competition out of the system, instead they engineered a new ERROR potential that somehow always bricks the camera at the most critical moments.
Maybe nobody was buying those EL5's but buying GODOX instead, so they found a nice interesting way to sabotage that"

you mean, the Canon cripple hammer, again?

Having used the EOS R1 + EF 200mm f/2L IS USM & EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM for pickleball for the past week I've come to the conclusion that I should've sold my 2008 5D Mark II, 2009 7D & 2009 1D Mark IV before RF mount was announced mid 2018.

Then unloaded by 2014 7D Mark II for 2022 R7 & 2015 5Ds R by mid 2024 for a R5 Mark II & R1 then paired them with three Sandisk 512GB CFexpress cards for $100 each.

R1 using Servo does voodoo on EF lenses. My keeper rate is so out there! Instead of positioning AF points on the subject's eye/head I instead have to concentrate on keeping the subject's hands/head/feet/paddle + ball are in frame and not cut.

It feels like I'm in Star Trek!

will4m said:

Wondering when (if?) this will be released. The C400 menus & manuals have had references to this for a while:

View attachment 227931
View attachment 227932
View attachment 227933
View attachment 227934

In addition, this website which seems to aggregate device manuals appears to have more FCC test documents such as previewed in this article, including real photos of the (camera-mounted) receiver unit: https://device.report/manual/15613866
View attachment 227935

Click to expand...

Thanks, I would buy one for sure.

snapshot said:

what were you expecting? anything more than that and maybe an accessory would have been a new camera model. maybe a cool faux leather case with a shoulder strap would have gone over big...

Click to expand...

A white camera with a glass ring imitating ice for the Winter Olympic Games? That would have been a real "limited edition"...

GMCPhotographics said:

These days, we have SO many options and choices. We are truely bless with our gear options. After my EF 16-35 II L musings on the RF 14L thread, I was just thinking about how many UWA lenses are now available on the RF mount. Back in the EOS 5DII days..there were only a few options.
I was just looking at how good the little RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM lens is....it's a stunning little lens. I'm kind of guessing the RF 70-150 2.8 STM wil be cut from a similar cloth....small, light, sharp, sealed, not quite as long as this L brother...great price point, a great alternative!

Click to expand...

Aw, man! 70-135mm f/2

Still hoping that canon makes a new 740hs with a bigger sensor and with raw instead of only jpeg

If they put raw in it and a bigger sensor then it would be an absolute pleasure to shoot with.

Still hoping canon reads al this what people want

Prices in Canada, Vistek
3199 CAD for the 14/1.4
2299 CAD for the 7-14/2.8-3.5

I only use Delkin because of their great service. A few other manufacturers are good for that too.

I bought a new editing rig for 9,000$ 3 months ago. That same rig, with exactly the same components now costs 12,500$.

And the prices are nowhere near the peak. It will only get worse. Upgrade your systems, cause you might need to make them last for next several years.

One of the stores here in New Zealand has a placeholder for the G7 X and refers to it as "30th edition"



A 30 year anniversary could be referring to a range of point and shoots, maybe the original ELPH?

Malm said:

I agree and that's why I wrote 'speculate'. There is now an additional patent of a 24/1.2 lens, so Canon is definitely looking into this fast, good and expensive non-VCM lenses for photographers. Knowing myself and reading the comments I see that there is a market for such lenses (but Canon knows such things much better than me).

Click to expand...

I hope you are right but I fear you are making a number of assumptions...
I would love a no-compromise 35 1.2... but I will want to see the specs before pre-ordering.

In any case, thanks to Canon for leaving my wallet alone, DJI has deeply appreciated that
(for whoever doesn't know it, DJI owns Hasselblad)

Well, the patent shows that Canon is looking into classical - non-VCM - photo lenses for the non-video interested photographers. It's not looking cheap, but fast and I assume a very good image quality. That are lenses I might be interested in.

About 43% market share in MILC, which I think is trending down. Year to year fluctuations can be a tad volatile, but still something to watch.

If I were Canon I would be getting worried about chip fabrication for cameras. Canon's fabs are long in the tooth, and I've heard that most of their camera chips are third party fabricated. I think both Canon and Nikon outsource fabrication of a significant portion of their chips to Renesas, and I read that Renesas is retooling to produce more high-end AI chips as a percentage of their portfolio (much higher profitability per chip) which could hurt Canon's and Nikon's cost inputs and parts availability. I don't know if either company stocked up on chips in the last year or two. I would tend to expect fewer chip designs and more reuse of chips across multiple camera models for both companies. At least Canon can probably leverage market share to remain competitive, but I'm doubtful about Nikon.

If the chip information is accurate, Sony might pressure the camera manufacturers they supply and slowly squeeze their profitability. With so much international chip production retooling, Sony continues to produce chips for more of the camera market with some estimates stating that over 50% of cameras sold use Sony sensors. Tough years ahead for Canon? That may depend on if the AI companies actually deliver sufficiently on their promises--if they fail, chip makers could swing the other way in the next few years. Current earnings don't appear to support AI company valuations. When OpenAI is trying to make money with ads and subscriber plans, I start to worry.

Some years ago business analysts noted there were too many manufacturers in the space. Sometimes a crisis sends the circus out of town. Perhaps some smaller manufacturers will fold up their tents. I think it is a little weird that Ricoh has a niche DSLR-and-film-camera space with products like the Pentax 17, AND is profitable there, but such things are ultimately for consumers to decide.

That's very interesting. It seems like I had read different numbers on this review. Now I might consider trying it.