Yet another help me decide thread...

Well, I own both cameras (as do several other members of this forum) and if you want my main differences, I'll share them.

The first is spot-metering. Sometimes I use spot-metering, let the camera read back the settings, then I make a decision what to set everything to in Manual mode. The nice thing about the 1DX is that spot-metering is linked to any active AF point, whereas the 5D Mark III only does so at center. This is useful in certain situations.

The next things are the dual-cross type AF points on the 1DX down the center, and face-recognition AF is 61-point or zone AF is selected. Again, this could be very useful in certain situations.

The biggest thing for me is EC in "faux M" mode. With the 1DX, in Custom Functions, you can set shutter speed ranges and aperture ranges (CFn.2) and also use ISO Safety shift (CFn.1). So what I can do is set TV mode to 1/500 let's say. I then can set my minimum aperture to f/2.8, and maximum aperture to f/2, if I'm using a 135 f/2L. I then turn ISO safety shift to ON. I can now set EC to whatever I like, such as +2/3 or +1 or whatever you'd like. I've pretty much just transformed TV mode to M mode with EC. What the camera will do here, is if there is not much light, will widen the aperture to f/2 FIRST. If there still isn't enough light, it will then raise the ISO value to whatever need be. This is just an example. You can do it in AV mode with min and max shutter speeds as well.

12 fps is really cool too!

The 5D Mark III has advantages too. Its silent shutter mode really is silent, and I utilized this feature at the tennis matches and golf matches I was shooting. Really usefull feature.

The 5D Mark III's biggest advantage is resolution. 22MP becomes significant with heavy cropping. I have taken samples with a 70-200 f/2.8L II IS lens and cropped the same ratio, and there is more detail loss in the 1DX files. What is odd though, is that the 1DX files remained just as sharp looking as the 5D3 files, and more highlight and shadow detail could be retained with the 1DX files. So there is actually going to be an IQ difference for pixel peepers, both good and bad for each camera.

In auto ISO in manual mode, the 1DX will expose "darker" than the 5D Mark III. This is well known. There is good and bad to that obviously. To avoid that, if you have a 1DX, use EC.

Both cameras are truly excellent. Consider the main differences and decide what you really need. When my nephew was born, I took all of the photos of him for the first 3 months with a 5D Mark III and various lenses and I am so exceptionally happy with the camera! I have also shot a ton of sports with the 1DX, and again, much more satisfied with that camera than when I had the 1D Mark IV.

Good luck in your decision!
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3rd party BG-E9

So I have this 3rd party BG-E9 grip. I've had it for probably a little over a year now. However, I dropped it around 8 months ago and the lock for the battery compartment broke. that discouraged me a little. But that's not my problem. I picked it up again to try and use it (still works and all. I missed the grip), but there was a sticky substance on it. No one has spilt anything or it or the likes. I cleaned it and it was not sticky anymore. But then it's stayed on my shelf for another 2 months with no use and still there's this sticky substance on it. i'm just curious as to what's happening. not that it doesn't contain a battery in side as I alternate them now in my 60D (and 5D 3). It's just really interesting. I also caught a whif of the smell on my hands and it smelt sort of mechanical (I don't know how to explain it. The downside of being a musician).

~BrandonKing96

5D II or 5D III or 6D?

RLPhoto said:
I had the same choice on my lap. An aging 5Dc and either the 5D2 or 5D3?

I was never impressed enough with the 5D2 as an overall camera but the d700 felt like a complete package. The d700 had everything except video and resolution from my 5Dc and that it can't take EF lenses. :P

So I skipped the mk2 cameras entirely and went straight into a mk3. It's all the camera I could ever need and won't be outgrowing it any time soon.
I'm with you Rev. Decided to skip the 5d2 and the 7d2 and went straight to the 5D MK III. Very happy I did! Now, I still have my 7D, but unless it's a wicked crazy upgrade, 7D2 probably won't happen for me... I'm liking the 5D III!
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Anybody upgrade from a 7D to 6D? What are your thoughts?

verysimplejason said:
coreyhkh said:
I you just take pictures of people and stuff then the 6d would be fine. Anything else then the 7D kills the 6D, also people complain about the noise on the 7D far too much, generally if you take a good picture and no Photoshop then its not a problem.

I think more accurately, if you take good pictures in good light then 7D definitely is better than 6D. But in low-light, 6D is far superior than 7D. I've got a 500D and I think this is comparable to 7D ISO performance. I only raise the ISO to 1600 if it's the last option. 3200, only if I really need to get the shot. I always envy my friend who's using a 5D2 and doesn't have any trouble going to 6400. There are also times that you want to raise your ISO for stopping the motion. Even if you've got a great AF, if you don't stop the motion or at least pan, it's useless. Just recently, I've shoot my daughter's theatrical concert and almost all of my shots are taken @ 1600 and 3200. I asked the organizer why the stage is so dimly lit. The pictures though are still usable in the internet but I hesitate to have it displayed in a 40 inches TV monitor to have my relatives view it. I had just stored them in my IPAD for their viewing.
I think you nailed it Jason... I've got lots of great high iso images with my 7D, lots of them, but the key is absolutely lots of light! Take that same camera and a f/2.8 lens into a room not so well lit and the noise drives you crazy... especially if you're shooting portraits.

The 7D just isn't made for portrait work in my opinion. The noise in the shadows is terrible in low light... get them outdoors or get your softboxes set up and it's much better, but inside or portrait work, even with lighting can be difficult when it comes to noise in the shadows and the 7D. Just makes for much more work in post... yuck... I've got a multitude of wonderful portraits from my 7D but it's been a lot of work in post...
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Shooting With the EOS 6D in Costa Rica

Velo Steve said:
I'd love to see some discussion of shooting and traveling with a camera in tropical conditions. I'll be spending almost a month on ships, boats, and kayaks, and on foot near the water. I'm pretty happy with my body and lens selection, but it's the moisture I'm worried about. The top two issues are:
1) How to carry the camera when I won't be using it but I might fall in the water or briefly drop a bag.
2) How to protect the camera and lens while shooting, but in light rain, falling moisture from vegetation, etc.

I have a little D10 for snapshots when it's really wet, but I'm really looking for how to use my 5D III with good results and no damage.
Steve. Start up a thread about this. I would also like to learn more, especially about cleaning/drying the equipment. I livr in the tropics since a few years. I take no special precautions I would say. I have Lowepro bags and a cheap knock off Crumpler slingbag. I am usin my 5D3 and previously a 60D. The worst thing so far is that my 24-105 took bad hit while shooting a 6 minute video while walking in thejungle. After keeping it in air conditioned room for 24 hour it had dried up again. Now working perfect again. 5D3 can take some bad weather in terms of rain, probably more than we think.
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Panasonic Lumix 7 vs. Canon S110

If you're considering something as bulky as the LX7, there are a few m43 cameras around for similar money. Similar thing really, compact but not really pocketable. However if you really want sharp and clear results, the lens will make or break the end results. Choose the right one and it'll be in a different league to any compact camera.

For myself, I wanted a high quality pocketable camera, and ended up buying an S90 for the times I didn't want to carry around an SLR. It's a great compact camera, but since getting an iPhone 5 (which like any good compact produces competent images without challenging any SLR, but it is truly pocketable, always charged and always on me) I've found I only ever want to use the S90 if I want to control the shutter speed but don't want to lug around the SLR - which isn't often.
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1D X FPS limiting factor?

Malte_P said:
what is limiting the maximum FPS for the 1D X?

is it the bandwith/processing power of the DIGIC5+ CPU´s?

or is it the mechanical shutter construction?

could a dual digic 5+ powered camera deliver 10 FPS for a 21-24MP sensor?

To return to the original question, the 1D X as far as I know is beyond any SLR before in terms of frame rate for a moving mirror at 12 FPS, and also beyond any DSLR's data throughput at 216 MP/s (18MP 12 times each second, it's max in RAW mode).

While both of those are pushing the boundaries, as to which is forming the actual limit, only the Canon engineers will know. However, it's likely the mirror assembly is moving as fast as they could get working reliably at that price point, and the data throughput of the dual digic 5+ at 12 FPS would have been pushed too far with one of the many 20+ MP sensors they have put in every other full frame body released since the 1Ds mk III.

Therefore they're probably both right up at their respective limits, in balance with each other.

To answer your last question, based on the above assumption of an upper limit of 216 MP/s, at 10 FPS a dual digic 5+ camera could work with a sensor of up to 21.6 MP. Any more MP and the frame rate would have to drop further.

And the rumoured 46MP camera with the same processing pipeline would max out at 4.7 FPS - if it's 50+ MP, it'll be 4.3 FPS or less.
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Any update to the 60D in next 6months?

I believe the 7D was being sold for 999.99 a few days ago. You can get a used one or a refurb from Canons Customer Loyaltry program for under 1000 bucks.
If the AF of the 60D doesn't bother you, then i'd get a used 5D Classic for around $650 bucks or a used 5DII for hopefully $1200. I greatly prefer FF to crop, but then, you'll need new lenses as well.
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50mm lens. I Need advice!!

bdunbar79 said:
I'm definitely a fan of the 50L if you like f/1.2 to f/2. I've never seen better color rendition and sharpness at those wide of apertures. Unfortunately I don't shoot at 50mm that wide, so I couldn't make use of the lens. I like your photos!

I Love this Lens! the 50mm is perfect for what I shoot and the f/1.2 is just awesome!!

But I feel like my 7D is holding back the potential of the lens.

and thanks! I'm glad you like my pics. :) I've only been shooting for like a couple of months! lol
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Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]

Just sold my 7D for a decent price. ;D
Now I can recharge my credit card and wait to see what's around the CES corner.
Hopefully something with better low ISO performance and equal or even better AF and, dare I wish for it, to be affordable? Would be nice to hang an improvement on the end of my 100-400mm. I can wait until summer on that.

My 5D2 should find a new place to live too. gonna take a bath on that one. ???
Possibly followed by my love-it-hate-it 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II if I don't stay in the Canon semi-pro body camp. :-\
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