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Yiannis A - Greece · Sep 8, 2016

Dear friends,

after watching a totally disappointing performance of Canon's DPRaw reviewed by Tony Northrup, searching "Youtube", i came across a really interesting video shot by south african photographer Clinton Lubbe, which demonstrates the capabilities of DPRaw (or the lack of them) from 200mm all the way up to 600mm.

It seems (at least as depicted on my professionally calibrated 27inch EIZO screen) that DPRaw has quite an effect at these focal lengths; it looks like post processing AFMA to my eyes. Just play the video at 1080p resolution in order to have a clear view of the results.

Here is the link, come to your own conclusions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVKMmKFGy8

All my best wishes from a very sunshiny part of Greece.
Yiannis A.

JRPhotos · Sep 7, 2016

I know that the new 5D is not out yet but generally speaking, does the 5D have better image quality? So far for the most part I am happy with the 7DMKII and typically get very sharp photos and can zoom in a bit and still have good quality photos, depending on the lens. I've never used a full frame camera and am wondering if I should go for the 5D. Are there are side by side image comparisons of real photo situations of the 2?

I shoot portraits and scenics.

I shoot a lot of the Canon 35 1.4 MKII and love it; this may be an ignorant question but I'm assuming with full frame, I would need to get close to my subject to get the same affect as I would on my 7DMKII?

swampler · Sep 7, 2016

The updated firmware is on USA Canon's web page as of now.

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/cameras/dslr/eos-7d-mark-ii/

szinski · Sep 7, 2016

I was watching Canon's detailed overview of the new 5D Mark IV and was intrigued by one feature mentioned.

That feature is "Diffraction Correction" which he said enhances the sharpness by cancelling the effects of the low-pass (anti-aliasing) filter.

The video can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhBjb-01KQ

Skip to the 2:45 mark to hear him talk about it.

privatebydesign · Sep 7, 2016

So at long last DPR have actually gone public with what many of us have known for a while, they are producers of paid infomercials for Nikon and Amazon.

This is sponsored content, created with the support of Nikon.

Now I don't have an issue with that, they can be whatever they want, but don't get on your high horse and preach impartial and unbiased opinions on the one hand and work for Nikon and Amazon with the other.

https://www.dpreview.com/videos/5840060247/field-test-action-photography-with-the-nikon-d5-professional-dslr

chauncey · Sep 7, 2016

Sometimes it pays to be blessed...My 1Ds3 would not start after 4 months of inactivity and battery
would not charge.

Sent the camera to the New Jersey repair center last Saturday...email first thing this morning with a
$250 estimate... called them and explained the problem, the gentleman on the phone (my bad that I
don't recall his name) said he would check and call me back in a couple of hours, which he did. He called
back and said the technician had serviced said camera and was shipping it back at no charge, in spite of
it being out of warranty. Bad battery was culprit, which I gotta replace.
I bought that camera in 2008, never joined their pro club or anything else.

It does pay to be blessed...and good looking.

wockawocka · Sep 7, 2016

As in, use the sensor in crop mode and pick the pixels further away from the lead ones?

Canon Rumors · Sep 7, 2016

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The Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II is expected to be announced some time in 2016, and<a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/more-talk-about-the-canon-ef-70-300mm-f4-5-6-is-ii-cr2/"> we first reported that it would be the first Canon lens to have a digital display</a>.</p>
<p>Below are some images from a patent for the technology that likely shows what will be displayed on the lens’ digital display.</p>
<p>By the images below, it seems the lens will be able to show distance meter, as well as lens shake on various axis’. I imagine you’ll be able to cycle through the desired displays with the press of a button on the lens.</p>
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ahsanford · Sep 7, 2016

After more than a full year of declaring the A7R II as the finest FF sensor ever made, DXO finally got around to testing a lens on it. New lenses came out from Sony well after the A7R II came out and were tested at DXO -- but only on the original A7R, much to the Sony fanboys' chagrin.

Well, wait no longer. Here's a first pass on 18 lenses tested on it, including two of the G Master big pickle jar pro lenses they recently released: https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Sony/A7R-II---Lenses-tested

Of note:

The previous 9 highest resolving lenses were (not surprisingly) mounted on the 5DS R. No longer. Three Zeiss primes on the A7R II have cracked the top 10: Sony 90mm macro, Zeiss 55mm f/1.8, and the Zeiss Loxia 21mm f/2.8.
They have not yet adaptored any non-FE-mount glass to the A7R II. Would be interesting to see someday.
Comparison of the three major 24-70 f/2.8 lenses.
As the Otus lenses + Nikon + Canon + Sony doesn't lend itself to a 3 headed comparison, here are all the 85mm f/1.4 (or faster) lenses -- apparently the Sony G is 'Otus grade'.
Haven't found any eye-rolling DXO overall score inflation for a lesser performing lens.... yet. (The day is young.)

More to come on this, I'm sure. This is just the tip of the spear. I'm curious to see how their 70-200 f/2.8 G lens performs.

- A

Yiannis A - Greece · Sep 7, 2016

Dear friends,

I just found this topic at "fredmiranda.com". I'm not sure if it's legit or not but seems quite OK to me.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1447974

I'm really curious of some real, complete first reviews, although i'm pretty sure i won't get the 5D Mk4 but i'll go straight to 1Dx mk2 (if it's not crippled with soft focus issues as i'm reading in some topics)!

All my best wishes from shiny, summery Greece.
Yiannis A.

P.S: I just found the topic while "googling" for reviews of 5D Mk4.

Canon Rumors · Sep 7, 2016

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<p>Foreign registration confirmation for a Canon EVF-DC2 has appeared. While the EOS M5 mirrorless camera will have a built-in EVF, the previous EOS M cameras and other PowerShot cameras do not.</p>
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Canon Rumors · Sep 7, 2016

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<strong>Amsterdam, The Netherlands — September 7, 2016</strong> – The SIGMA CORPORATION is pleased to announce that it will enter into the cinema lens market with the release of its SIGMA CINE LENSES, designed specifically for cinematography. In the world of digital film production, there is an increasing demand for higher resolution, and SIGMA’s new lineup of high-performance lenses is compatible with the latest, high-resolution digital cinema cameras. SIGMA has developed its own production system by establishing the required technology for mass production of high-performance lenses for ultra-mega-pixel shooting. The company feels this valuable new lens line could create a fundamental change in digital film production, and provide a new solution for cinematographers.</p>
<ul>
<li>Unbeatable value – the highest optical performance in its class and outstanding compact design</li>
<li>Wide range of lenses for professional use</li>
<li>Optimized for the latest digital moviemaking technology</li>
</ul>
<p>For the first phase, SIGMA will release two zoom lenses in Japan and the USA for EF and E mount camera systems. Furthermore, another zoom lens and five prime lenses will be released to the market in sequence from 2017 onward. SIGMA plans to develop additional zoom and prime lenses as well as add support for PL mount camera systems. The latest release information will be sequentially updated on its official website.</p>
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<p><strong>High Speed Zoom Line</strong>

High Speed Zoom Line offers the constant aperture of T2 throughout the zoom range, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K – 8K. Furthermore, while offering the highest image quality in its class, the High Speed Zoom Line has a compact construction and offers amazing value.</p>
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<p><strong>FF Zoom Line </strong>

FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K – 8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras’ image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of compatible cameras. This is the cinema zoom lens offering the highest image quality and compact design. This lens is not available in PL mount.</p>
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<strong>FF High Speed Prime Line

</strong>The lineup ranges from 20mm to 85mm, and all five lenses are T1.5. They are compatible with full-frame sensors and, while being more compact, can offer superior resolution than other high-end prime sets do. With the five prime lenses from FF High Speed Prime Line, there is no need to change the lighting to shoot a variety of cuts. These lenses bring a consistent level of light to the production and offer greater consistency with regards to the film’s look and color/contrast before it enters post-production.

Each CINE lens model is weatherproof and has luminous paint markings to aid in changing and operating the lens in the dark. It touts a long focus rotation of 180 degrees and is guided by cams for smooth operation and accuracy. The CINE lens design features standardized essentials such as an 82mm front for ND filters* and a 95mm front diameter for matte box use and standard gear positions for accessories like follow focus. They also include a manual linear iris control and electronic mounts that provide vital camera metadata. Each lens is manufactured and inspected in the Sigma factory located in Aizu, Japan.</p>
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<p><strong>Availability/Pricing</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Availability: toward the end of 2016 (in Japan and USA in the first phase)</li>
<li>Pricing: TBD</li>
<li>Mounts: Initially Canon-EF and Sony-E to be followed later by PL**</li>
<li>*20mm T1.5 FF doesn’t accept filters.</li>
<li>**24-35mm T2.2 FF is not available in PL mount. The appearance and specifications are subject to change without notice.</li>
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Chaitanya · Sep 7, 2016

Here is Hitler's Parody of 5D mk 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJYXrilGk_8

pwp · Sep 6, 2016

Regardless of your opinion of Tony Northrup, his assessment of the usefulness of Dual Pixel RAW is fairly compelling, with results that kind of confirm what I expected after the initial 5D Mk IV hype calmed down.

The first two minutes of this should do you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0S8shTk94E

-pw

Canon Rumors · Sep 6, 2016

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Canon will allow dealers to begin shipping the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to customers starting tomorrow (September 7, 2016).</p>
<p>B&H Photo and Amazon will likely see the highest allocation. We are told there are lots of Canon EOS 5D Mark IV w/EF 24-70mm f/4L IS kits that will be available on day 1.</p>
<p>All of the relevatant preorder links are after the break.</p>
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<p><strong>Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Body</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$3499</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274705-REG/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2bk6MtW">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA5DM4.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bkM0ze">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dslr-camera-body-only.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a> **</li>
<li><strong>UK </strong><em>£3599</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="http://tidd.ly/aadf0b57">Park Cameras</a> | <strong>Germany </strong><em>€4065</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://ad.zanox.com/ppc/?39064896C77526565&ULP=[[https://www.calumetphoto.de/product/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV-Gehause/CANEOS5DMIV]]">Calumet</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>** Free 32gb SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC Card from <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dslr-camera-body-only.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a> on body only preorders, you do not need to add the card to your cart, it will be shipped automatically.</em></p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS 5D Mark IV w/24-70mm f/4L IS</strong><strong>

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$4399</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274707-REG/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2bGW3NA">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA5DM4K1.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-5d-mark-iv-ef-24-70-f4l-is-usm-lens-kit">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dslr-camera-with-24-70mm-f-4l-is-lens.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Canon EOS 5D Mark IV w/24-105mm f/4L IS II</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$4599</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274706-REG/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2byaGDh">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ica5dm4k.html?utm_source=rflaid64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bJ0irD">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dslr-camera-with-24-105mm-f-4l-is-ii-lens.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Canon BG-E20 Battery Grip for EOS 5D Mark IV</strong><strong>

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$349</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1276214-REG/canon_1485c001_bg_e20_battery_grip_for.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2bhTQFq">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICABGE20.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bkK1eD">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-bg-e20-battery-grip.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
<li><strong>UK </strong><em>£329</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="http://tidd.ly/dcb65289">Park Cameras</a></li>
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<p><strong>Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III USM

</strong><em>Shipping in late October, 2016</em><strong>

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$2199</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274708-REG/canon_ef_16_35mm_f_2_8l_iii.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2bPL0jq">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/CA16353.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bkKGfQ">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-ef-16-35mm-f-2-8l-iii-lens.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
<li><strong>UK </strong><em>£2349</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="http://tidd.ly/97c26534">Park Cameras</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM

</strong><em>Shipping in late October, 2016</em><strong>

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$1099</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274709-REG/canon_ef_24_105mm_f_4l_is.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://amzn.to/2bpjIRq">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/CA241052.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bIZnYi">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-ef-24-105mm-f-4l-is-ii-lens.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
<li><strong>UK </strong><em>£1129</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="http://tidd.ly/c633e78d">Park Cameras</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Canon W-E1 Wifi Adaptor</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>USA </strong><em>$39</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274710-REG/canon_w_e1_wi_fi_adapter.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296">B&H Photo</a> | Amazon | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICAWE1.html?KBID=64393">Adorama</a> | <a href="http://bit.ly/2bJ0A1H">Canon Store</a> | <a href="http://mpex.com/canon-w-e1-wi-fi-adapter.html?acc=3">Midwest Photo</a></li>
<li><strong>UK </strong><em>£39</em><strong>:</strong> <a href="http://tidd.ly/caec32c9">Park Cameras</a></li>
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Dylan777 · Sep 6, 2016

Hi gent's,
What are your top 2 reasons you upgraded or plan to upgrade in near future from mrk1 to II?

How is high ISO compared to mrk I?

Best,
Dylan

Diko · Sep 6, 2016

Hi everyone.

Was wondering about it. Having in mind 5DsR I am very inclined to combine the Sigma 50s ART with a sharper 5D4 AA filter-less.

What do you think? Any proposal on an alternative answer would be added. Additional opinions and advises would be also highly appreciated.

Some additional info: General primary body mostly for stills. Wild life, sport, Portraits, Events, low light, time-laps.

The main reason to ask: In the end of this video about 1:23 (5D4 vs 5DsR & 3:50 (5D4 vs Nikon 7200)...

JPAZ · Sep 6, 2016

Given the number of experiences reflected in these forums, it is always great to get some opinions. I just finished packing my probable kit for an Ethiopian trip. My main interest is, as always, people / street / cultural shots. I do some landscapes photos but they are not my main interest. I almost never use flash nor do I do any sort of poses, but try to capture images of folks in their day to day environment. My most commonly used gear is the 5Diii with a 24 - 70 but I will change out to my 16-35 or something longer if that fits my needs. I try to keep it simple and relatively light.

But, this trip took quite a bit of planning and will definitely be a "once in a lifetime" type of journey and I don't want to leave anything to chance. So, my kit just grew.............

Here's what I've packed:

5Diii with 4 batteries, charger, etc.
24-70 f/2.8 ii
16-35 f/4
100-400 mk ii (really glad I had this in Tibet although on other trips I took a 70-200)
M3 (OK, I swore I'd never get one after the M1 experience but I felt the need) with 3 batteries
EVF for M3
EF-M 22
EF-M 18-55
EF-M / EF Adapter
40mm Pancake
CF and SD cards
CPL's for all
A small table tripod
RRS TQC-14 with a Markins head
The usual things (blower, brush, microfiber cloth) we all use

Remarkably, I got everything except the tripods and the rocket blower into my Thinktank Streetwalker! I already owned all of this except for the M3. My thought process is I'll use my usual FF gear and have the M3 as a backup body. I'll also use the M3 for some short videos of festivals. I gave the M3 a workout this weekend and going through the photos, it certainly is not a replacement for my mirrorslapper but I got some decent shots.

So am I thinking sensibly here? I need to keep the dimensions of the kit down for internal flights on small planes. Based on the posted limits, my Kiboko is too large. The Streetwalker works but boy it is full.
:-\

Ming-Tzu · Sep 5, 2016

Now that I have the 500L and 300L, I need to do some AFMA. Never did this before as I found the focus of my other lenses were on point, but want to make sure my new toys are good to go.

Should I go out and start using it before doing AFMA? Or is it generally accepted that AFMA must happen before using these longer tele lenses? Also, any tips? FoCal Standard, Plus, or Pro?

Canon Rumors · Sep 5, 2016

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<strong>*UPDATE*</strong>

We’re told by a good source that this does indeed look the EOS M5, which we expect to be announced late next week.</p>
<p>The LCD only flips vertically, not to the side like the EOS 80D.</p>
<p>You can read what we know about the EOS M5 <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-m5-coming-before-photokina-cr3/">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Original Post:</strong>

These sketches (or Photoshop filtered images) of a Canon camera have appeared on <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30681.msg621061;topicseen#new">our forum</a> and in our inbox. We have been unable to confirm their authenticity at the time of publishing, but we will update the post once we hear if these are legit or not.</p>
<p>We have been told that the EOS M5 would have ergonomic updates, such as a larger grip as well as an EVF.</p>

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Sep 5, 2016

Hey,

So the 5D4 was announced and as a 5D3 owner, as soon as I saw the resolution bump, I wasn't thrilled (I've covered it in other threads, I won't rehash it here). That said, there are a few limited applications where I wished I had just a few more pixels to work with (usually when cropping). To make a long story short, I reasoned that if I'm going to go for more resolution, why stop at 30? May as well just go all the way to 50...therefore, I can keep 22 (5D3) for most of my shooting, but have 50 (5DS R) on tap for those applications where I desire it.

So, now to dive in...

I got the 5DS R for very specific applications - controlled environments, so to speak - but curiosity got the better of me earlier today so I ventured out to see how it handled "everyday" photography so to speak. So I just went out, usual structures, flowers, etc. These are some takeaways from that outing...from the view of the "everyday" camera, rather than the specialty point of view that most reviews seem to offer.

Pros

- RESOLUTION: As someone who has never utilized a camera with >22MP before, the sheer detail captured by this camera is a revelation. Background: I used to own a 7D2 and I was never happy with the image quality from that camera...so with the talk of the 5DS cameras having similar image quality at the pixel level, and seeing image samples, I was initially underwhelmed. But, having taken it out myself, I can now say that the 5DS R squeezes out more fine detail than my old 7D ever did, even at moderately high ISOs. Once you get to 3200 and above, the gap narrows considerably, and it becomes a wash - but I'd still give the 5DS R a slight edge over the 7D2. The 5D3 is still the best performer in that range.

- CROPPING POWER, ADDED REACH: I mentioned detail, right? With the 100-400 mounted, when shooting distant subjects I'm realizing that I have significantly more reach than before. Meaning I can crop further into the shot, or stand farther back when shooting (with the intent to crop later) if getting closer isn't possible or desirable. Not only that, but on a pixel level, in good light the shots appear to have more detail in them than I remember seeing with the 7D. Fine detail also seems better refined at 100% view than even with the 5D3 (which, although razor sharp, can be a bit rough in appearance at times). Possibly this could be attributed to the cancelled AA filter effect?

Cons

- SPEED: The 5DS R is probably the slowest camera I've had since my old T2i - and I mean this not only in burst mode, but shot-to-shot times as well. It's taking a couple of seconds between shot taken and shot appearing on LCD screen, which isn't a major issue but stands out when you're used to the image appearing right away on the 5D3, 7D2, etc.

- MODIFIED SHOOTING STYLE: I've noticed I really have had to pay attention to shutter speed and check every image to make sure it's at least acceptably sharp. Usually on the 5D3 it's only a concern with action shots or moving subjects, but on the S there were a couple instances where the image (at 100%) just had a TINY amount of what appears to be motion blur - looks fine if downsized a tad, but then the extra resolution ends up being wasted and I just end up with an unnecessarily large file. Looks like I will have to look at raising the minimum shutter speed in Av mode when using telephotos with this camera...

- ISO: This one is a given, but when I saw noticeable noise in an image and saw that the ISO was only 640...coming from a 5D3, let's just say an eyebrow was raised.

Neither

- I'm finding lens choice is critical with this camera...a 24-105 just won't cut it here. Instead, I plan to use the 100 Macro, 85 1.2, and perhaps the 35 to get the most out of the sensor. The only zoom lenses I'd feel comfortable using on the 5DSR are the 100-400 II and the 70-200 2.8 II - and even then, probably only in good light (outdoors). I haven't had a chance to try the wide-angle zooms on the camera, perhaps the new 16-35 2.8 III could do it justice as well...

Conclusion: This camera excels where it was intended to - in pure resolving power. The detail is incredible, and holds up to higher ISOs than the equivalent crop-sensor cameras I've used in the past. As an everyday camera, however, I'm finding the drawbacks to outweigh the positives. While 50 MP is an outstanding revelation, in my experience, the slowness and added attention to detail demanded of the shooter do not lend well to my everyday style of shooting. That's not what I bought the camera for, but it was still interesting to see how it would hold up. Basically, I confirmed it cannot replace my 5D3, but makes a great companion to it - compliments it well, so to speak. In the case I decide to move the main camera up to a 1DX2, the 5DSR could fit in even better in that aspect.

Generally, I like what I'm seeing so far. Can't wait to use it to its real potential later on!

Anyone use a 5DS(R) as their MAIN camera (not backup or specialist)?

niels123 · Sep 5, 2016

Currently I have the 24-105 f/4L IS USM mk1 among other lenses, but I am quite disapointed about its image quality, especially compared to the 35 f/1.4L II (which I also have).

I consider upgrading to 24-70 f/2.8L II. Is it worth it? How much difference is there between 24-104 f/4L IS and 24-70 f/2.8L II?

I don't care about the IS, In case I need it I have the 16-35 f/4L IS and the Tamron 85 f/1.8 VC

Leadfingers · Sep 5, 2016

Im an amateur, but...based on my understanding there are 3 main elements in the body of any given camera...

Sensor - To gather light data
Processor - To move data around the circuits and storage media
Operating System - To manage traffic flow

Here's my question. In this day and age, why is Canon bothering with the Processor and Operating System part of this equation? Why have they not simply ported the OS to Android, and taken advantage of all the advances in low power processor technology? There's some amazingly powerful processors from the likes of nVidia and other companies.

Is the Canon hardware so awesomely optimized that no one else can compete? I'd be very skeptical of that claim.

Anyway... thoughts?

TommyLee · Sep 5, 2016

I thought I saw mention of a lightroom version that you buy....like the $119..version
.... and it does not expire....
no more updates ...but does not expire.... just for the gear that existed when i bought it...

somehow I thought it was mentioned in this forum..
and Adobe does not mention it ..but is available

and what are alternatives

JoFT · Sep 4, 2016

Pricing of Canon in the US: 3.499.- US$
Pricing of Canon Germany: 4.065.- € incl VAT which is net 3415 € net or 3810 US$....
Pricing seems to be a bit unfair, or?

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