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mw · Apr 10, 2012

About to give up on my search for the new Canon 5D Mark III. Unless anyone out there can suggest of where to get one. Thanks in advance for your help.

Christian_Stella · Apr 10, 2012

I would love to know what workflow people are using to post-process their dslr footage. I am currently gearing up for an intense month of color grading on a feature (zombie drama) film shot on the 5d2 called The Battery. While I am color grading, the audio will be going to a professional studio for mixing. Lately I've been researching everyone's techniques for squeezing the absolute most out of 5d2 footage, so I was wondering... what do you guys do? Do you have some secret voodoo magic that you wouldn't post-process without?

The workflow I've settled on for now is the result of all my research, but I am always looking for better plugins and better results. You can see a 10 second clip at http://youtu.be/gn_aATlX-zs?hd=1 but the YouTube compression fullscreen pretty much ruins the look, so it is best viewed HD in a window.

This is what I have done / am doing...

1. Shot on 5d2 with neutral preset with contrast and sharpness all the way down. (Technicolor preset was just too hard to bring color back.) Shot 24p with a shutter speed of 50.

2. Shot with Zeiss ZE lenses, specifically 21mm and 35mm. Used a Singh-Ray variable ND filter to control depth of field in sunlight.

3. Converted all footage to the Cineform codec. Edited in Premiere Pro.

4. Stabilizing specifically shaky footage with After Effects Warp Stabilizer (only a few shots).

5. Color grading with Magic Bullet Looks and Colorista 2. Looks is what it is... I find it too over the top unless you really go easy on things.

6. Noise reducing high ISO or highly-graded shots with Neat Video... I do this after color grading as raising the shadows afterwards simply ruins the work Neat Video does.

7. Add fine 35mm film grain with Gorilla Grain video overlay.

After months of tests, this was the closest to the fabled filmic look that I could get 5d2 footage to look, but I am definitely interested to hear how you achieve your looks, cause I am not married to my methods and just want the best looking movie I can make.

Canon Rumors · Apr 10, 2012

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<strong>Cinema EOS Grows


</strong>I received some info that 2 new cameras would be talked about at NAB next week in Las Vegas. The names C100 and C500 were mentioned.</p>
<p>One of the cameras being true 4K.</p>
<p><strong>EOSRAW


</strong>Another rumour to appear on other sites and in my inbox is the development of EOSRAW. Apparently it’s recordable to CF cards and is capable of 12bit at 4K.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7825/canon-to-unveil-eosraw-recording-format-new-high-end-camera-specs" target="_blank">Read more at EOSHD</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r </strong></p>

stilscream · Apr 10, 2012

Anyone else weighing this option? (I am upgrading from a 7d)

Advantages of 1D IV + 5d Mk III:
10 fps of 1d iv better than 8fps
1.3 crop/FF options and versitility
low light ability and focus speed for birding
f8 focusing on 1D IV

Advantages of 1DX:
even lower light ability
12/14fps
fastest focusing ability
best metering canon has available
ethernet port
portrait joystick

I almost want to wait for a 1dx II w/ f8 focusing.

Apr 10, 2012

Hello CR!
I've shot with a T21, 40D, 60D, 7D and 5Dmkll. (plus the new 600EX Speedlite)

I have never had more than one digital camera in my possession at a time. However, I recently decided to purchase another copy of the 7D to befriend my 5Dmkll.
With a 1.6 crop and FF bodies at my disposal, I've come to enjoy the advantages of pairing bodies to lenses. I am currently working with a Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 and a Canon 135 L f/2
With this combination, I have the focal lengths of
50mm
80mm
135mm
216mm
My question is, in the Canon lineup of lenses, what should be my wide angle addition? Yes, I would love to spend the money on a 5Dmklll, but I don't see that happening until the price drops a bit. I've been considering the 24 L f/1.4, which would add 24mm and 38mm to the set, but I wanted to get some opinions first. Any thought?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I shoot indoor sports and parties where light is questionable at times.

Apr 10, 2012

So as I was shooting my little twin cousins this weekend while they were collecting their Easter eggs, I was messing around with trying to use spot metering instead the typical evaluative metering. No matter what I did, my camera always spot metered the very middle of my composition. I was shooting wide open so I was using Spot AF and using my outermost focus points at times. I could easily be wrong, but I thought my 40D allowed me to spot meter wherever my focus point was, not only the center point. Is there a custom function I'm missing or something?

To confirm my speculations, I walked into the house and experimented with metering off open windows and the wall beside it. Yep, it was definitely ONLY reading the very center.

Apr 10, 2012

Curious if anyone else has ordered from Ritz/Wolf Camera. I initially posted about this in B&H thread, but it might have been missed.

I ordered somewhat "late" on April 5 and so far I have only gotten an email reminding me that my item is backordered.

Anyone else?

Apr 10, 2012

This scene shot at 24mm with a FaderND gen 1 (works fine with the 24-105 lens) looks sharper than normal for a detailed wide angle shot: https://vimeo.com/40107424

It's not sharp, but it appears sharper than normal and requires less post sharpening (about 1/2 the amount). This example shows moire (church), which I haven't seen before with the 5D3 (well, have seen it before but very minor). More details in the vimeo description and original MOV available for download. Banding in sky likely due to using CineStyle and over-exposing the shot (could fix in post if this shot was needed using noise/grain or selective blurring with AE or Resolve).

If anyone has a FaderND (any version), Heliopan, etc., or clear linear/circular polarizers, would helpful to know if polarizers can help improve sharpness (some OLPFs use a polarizer- might be some kind of interaction with polarized light which reduces diffusion and blur).

Apr 10, 2012

.... but i do remember someone wrote sony is a bigger company then canon and has more money for R&D.

he wrote canon had to fear sony, because sony has so much more money to spend on developing cameras.

well... he was obviously wrong and now look at this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-sony-idUSBRE83907220120410

Kazuo Hirai, who took over as Sony's CEO this month, has said he is prepared to take "painful steps" to revive the company, insisting he would not hesitate to scale back or withdraw from businesses he deemed uncompetitive. He will lay out his revival strategy in more detail at a briefing scheduled for Thursday.

im curious what that means for sonys high-end camera business...

LifeAfter · Apr 10, 2012

Anyone purchased the 5D III In Switzerland? Availability?
What about the preorders?

Please give some informations if you have...

Thank you in advance

well_dunno · Apr 10, 2012

Hello all,

Has anyone any experience with the foveon X3 sensor? Had Sigma produced the camera in EF mount (not sure if it would be possible but still), I would consider giving it a go... Wonder how the lenses cope with it though...

Cheers!

Cfunkexplosion · Apr 10, 2012

I intend to sell my 7D and my EF-S mount lenses and move to a 5D3. Two lenses I'm pretty sure I want are the 35L and the 100L (for macro purposes.) I will retain my Tamron 70-300 VC. If I do go with those additions, I'll have about $2,500 left for some additional glass. I'm considering a few options, and any thoughts anyone might have would be appreciated. I'm considering the Tokina 16-28 as a replacement for my Tokina 11-16, the 24-104L as a replacement for my 17-55. Other lenses I'm considering are the 135L, and the 85 1.8/Sigma 1.4.

I don't necessarily need to replicate my crop set-up...I'm trying to balance usability with increased image quality. I'm a hobbyist shooting mostly travel, family, and general stuff. If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, I thank you kindly.

Apr 10, 2012

Just spotted this lens sold in a London shop for £3450 inc hood and flight bag and warranty - from the photos it seemed fairly described as exc++.

For a used Canon 500/4 - current model in the same condition - the current asking price would be a lot higher.

Surprising particularly as the 400/2.8 has a lot more glass and has the extra stop to freeze the action.

The current 500/4 is a bit lighter but certainly no lightweight.

Perhaps because there are a lot more 400/2.8s around and owners are upgrading to the latest version - available now.

Maybe we can expect a drop in price for used 500/4s when the new model comes available in May - allegedly?

Both are very nice lenses to catch fast moving objects but I am guessing you would get more keepers with the 400/2.8.

And with 1.4X TC I am also guessing that 560/4 images would be better than 700/5.6? Anybody out there who has used/tried out both lenses with a TC?

hippoeater · Apr 10, 2012

I didn't see any topics on this yet. Any users here any experience with it? Seems like a well priced high quality landscape zoom lens.

Reviews seem pretty positive so far.

Would love to hear some impressions or feedback!

Drizzt321 · Apr 10, 2012

So, spotted what looks like a 1D series camera with a monster BWL in an article on new 3-D target identification that the Navy will be using in their new drone, developed alongside Utah State. THought this was kinda interesting. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24416

jlev23 · Apr 10, 2012

Andrew over at eoshd says to use A-I, even though his first post said he saw a fizz noise at 160 iso, which i don't see on my camera,these are his setting suggestions:
Menu settings

SHOOT 4
Movie rec. size: 1920 24/25p, ALL I
SHOOT3
High ISO speed NR – OFF
Highlight tone priority (HTC, D+) – OFF
SHOOT2
Auto Lighting Optimiser – OFF
C.Fn2 Disp./Operation
In Custom Controls set the SET button to Mag/Reduce for your focus assist

but another person says this:
"(I work with these codecs at the software level in my day job). My low level analysis of video frames shows artifacts present in ALL-I but not in IPB (part of the issue is PPro CS5.5.2). Thus, my findings show IPB is higher quality vs. ALL-I (especially lower noise, and less macroblock artifacts). ALL-I is useful for editing on slower computers; IPB provides higher quality (please post images from video frames if you find otherwise). I understand it's counter-intuitive, however I have tested it. You too can test it. More info here: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?279229-Canon-5D-Mark-III-IPB-contains-more-detail-and-has-less-artifacts-than-ALL-I/page3"

but everything on the internet i see that says this, actually comes from him, so i don't know whether to believe it or not, I've already done two professional shoots in A-I mode and all seemed good, but if IPB is better, which canon says the opposite, then id love to know other peoples opinion.

and canon says this:
"The edit friendly intraframe ALl-I only compresses information in the current frame and does not use any temporal processing. Meaning the compression algorithm is not doing any type of comparison between frames. Think of it as a continuous series of still images that are each individually compressed. Intraframe compression is easier to edit with because the computer does not need to interpolate any data between each frame. With intraframe ALL-I, quality is higher, file size is larger, and the video files will use less computer processing power.

The file size conscious intraframe IPB uses some complex algorithms to compare neighboring frames and tries to find similarities from one frame to another. It can then achieve higher compression rates because it deals less with the parts of the image that stay the same from frame to frame. With interframe IPB, quality is lower (although Canon says not by much), file size is smaller, and the video files will use more computer processing power."

barbara · Apr 10, 2012

Salve !
Vi chiedo un consiglio
Ho una CANON 550D
Mi interessa il 70-200 f/4
Non riesco capire se conviene spendere il doppio per stabilizzatore
Lo userei per i miei viaggi
Grazie

Canon Rumors · Apr 10, 2012

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<strong>A higher end C300?


</strong>There is some thought that we may be seeing a new Cinema EOS video camera announced or shown at NAB instead of the 4K DSLR.</p>
<p>It’s rumoured to be priced in the $30K  range. No specs were given, but this info also appeared <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/MNS1974/statuses/189542920385339393" target="_blank">on a twitter feed</a> with a price mentioned over $35K.</p>
<p>I will say, information about a 4K DSLR has been hard to come by so far.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

gkaefer · Apr 10, 2012

Maybe answered on forum, didnt find it ... so sorry if double posting...

On the german wiki page for the MKIII I read
that Canon limits the video recording time because of avoiding to be taxed as video cam.
The Cam does not have an entry level price, so I wonder how much higher the camera would be, if videos with more than 29min 59sec could be possible. 50 or 100euro more for having an unlimited (limited by cardmedium) I think would not be a argument against it?

Georg

link to the german wiki page I refer to:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_III

Apr 10, 2012

Hi all,

I was hoping for some advice on my camera. I was doing a full day of video with the 5d mk ii and towards the end of the day the camera kept stopping the recording. The next day I did a photo shoot with it and the images were a little weird looking, especially the skin tones and colours. I sent it off to Canon and they have replied with:

Inspected unit, checked flange back and it was out of range.

Quote to dismantle unit, supply and fit listed part. Adjust as required. Reassemble, clean, check and test all functions.

CG2-2316-010 MIRROR BOX ASS'Y,

Labour $ 314.00
Part $ 282.86
Freight $13.00
Sub Total $ 609.86
GST $60.99

Total $670.85

I did drop it about a year ago, the lens took the brunt of the fall and I haven't had these issues until now.

Does anyone know if too much videoing affects the camera?

Many thanks
Trish

dirtcastle · Apr 10, 2012

Is there any Canon lens that DOESN'T need an update. Or at least, for which it is unlikely that an update will make significant improvements.

1. IQ and sharpness
2. Great AF
3. Reasonable weight
4. IS, if appropriate

From what I hear, it sounds like the following lenses are pretty damn close to perfect (given current technology)...

TS-E 24mm f/ 3.5 L II
24mm f/1.4 L II
100mm f/2.8 L macro
200mm f/2 L
300mm f/2.8 L II
400 f/2.8 L II

And maybe the new 24-70 f/2.8 L II will be added to this list??

Ew · Apr 10, 2012

I had borrowed this lens about 4 years ago with a 450D as a backup that didn't get used.

It felt good in hands, but there was not time for experiments.

Still wondering if its something of value today.
The 70-200 4Lis + 1.4 gives me the range but at 5.6 max ap.

Can anyone share thoughts or experiences ??
TIA.

Apr 10, 2012

justsomedude said:

Hello,

is it possible for Canon to solve the LCD light leak issue with new firmware ?

All LCDs of the 5DMK3 are constructed identically. So all 5DMK3 see the same offset of light from the backlight of the LCD display on the metering sensor. Firmware could subtract this offset of light in the signal of the metering sensor. This firmware has only to know that the LCD is on and then to subtract the offset and to recalibrate the exposure. I know this solves only the problem with the backlight of the LCD and not the light leak issue itself, but I think it could help to reduce the problem very well.

ciao
Chris

Apr 10, 2012

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8 L IS II USM Lens Service Notice
Canon Inc. has issued a service notice regarding a very small number of Canon EF 300mm f/2.8 L IS II USM Lenses (thirty seven of them).

If you own a 300 L IS II with one of the serial numbers listed below, you might notice significant back focusing when one of the Canon EF 1.4x Extenders (version I, II or III) are also mounted. If this is the case with your lens, contact Canon for corrections to be made.

8210000204, 8210000331, 8210000335, 8210000338, 8410000266, 8410000296, 8410000276, 8410000339, 8410000344, 8410000347, 8410000348, 8410000357, 8410000361, 8410000368, 8410000369, 8510000008, 8510000014, 8520000122, 8520000146, 8520000191, 8520000213, 8520000275, 8520000324, 8520000338, 8520000354, 8520000357, 8520000358, 8520000361, 8520000365, 8520000366, 8520000378, 8520000335, 8520000414, 8520000441, 8620000114, 8620000130, 8620000032

No reason was given for the source of the problem.

Mt Spokane Photography · Apr 9, 2012

Vincent Laforet is a Pulitzer prize winning photographer who has switched from still cameras to video. He is a Canon maker of Light, so he will always favor Canon --- right? He works with all popular brands of Cinema Cameras, film and digital, as well as lenses from inexpensive Canon lenses like the 24-70 L to uber high end lenses that you rent but do not buy.

But wait, he tells it as it is and backs it up with images. The pros and cons spelled out for many of you who ask the same question over and over, here is a opinion of a pro filmmaker.

http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2012/04/09/new-zeiss-wide-angle-slr-lenses-and-how-they-stack-up-against-their-canon-ef-counterparts/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FjvaG+%28Vincent+Laforet%27s+Blog%29

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