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Feb 12, 2012

Just curious as to what people's thoughts are concerning the next kit lens for the new 5D series that should be announced soon. If you think a prime lens or other, state what you think it may be

Feb 12, 2012

Hello CR Followers,

I currently own a Canon T3i and have the kit lens (18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS II) that it came with. I've considered upgrading to a higher quality lens and the 24-70 has come to mind. With the recent announcement of the Mark II version, I'm not too sure where to go. I know production samples are not out to the general public so performance wise, we are simply left to look at the MTF charts.

So, money not really being an option and based upon what we know thus far, is pre-ordering the new 24-70 worth it? If it doesn't perform much better than the old, I"ll pocket the difference and buy a new monitor. 2300 seems steep for a lens, but if it performs similar to the 70-200 f/2.8 II lens, then I'm all for it. I've borrowed that lens before and was amazed at it's IQ and performance.

I know that the lens is not out yet so this is all speculative. Just would like to know people's opinions and their thoughts concerning the purchase if they are in the same or similar boat as I.

Feb 12, 2012

I have a 20D, looking to upgrade. I bought the 20D a couple of months before the 30D came out and have regretted it! I would like to buy a 7D soon (I use for nature and wildlife photography), but was curious how much the 5D Mark II might go down in price (close to price of new 7D now??) once the 5D Mark III comes out?

Feb 12, 2012

Hi

I have a CANON 30d now but need to move up a better one...which would be better for OUTDOOR WILDLIFE
photos...BIRDS...HAWKS...etc etc...A 50D or 7D...i still want to stay with the DX...not full frame yet

thanks,

beanie...texas

Feb 12, 2012

Not sure if anyone here have seen it or it's been posted:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150608619373746&set=a.10150608616988746.407599.165962118745&type=1&theater

It's an unnamed DSLR that is capable of doing 4K video, in CP+ 2012 exhibition in Japan.

Marsu42 · Feb 12, 2012

I am going to spend money I don't really have on a tele lens later this year for my crop body, so I really want to get the right one. If anyone has experience with these lenses, please give me some advice... here are my thoughts:

* 70-300L: fine but heavy lens, but is overpriced compared to the non-L version. Problem is it doesn't take a tele converter (thanks, canon marketing!) - but on the other hand, f/5.6+extender light capability would be too low anyway.

* 70-200/4L+2x: great and not too heavy lens, but using an extender doesn't make sense: In my experience, shooting moving objects at 300mm+ requires a large aperture at least of f/4 (next to a good servo af that is, unlike my 60d).

* 70-200/2.8L+2x: this is the combination I'd get at the moment - very short min. focus distance, great iq, still ok light capability w/ extender.

* the new 100-400/4-5.6L: I really don't know what to make of this: if the price prediction is right (which I doubt knowing canon rumors

) it is more expensive than the 70-200/2.8+2x combination, covers about the same focal distances and has worse light capability - why would anybody want to buy that? As I wrote above, extending a 5.6 lens doesn't make much sense to me...

Feb 12, 2012

Hello,

I'm visiting Joshua Tree and Death Valley National Parks for this upcoming mid-winter break, and thought about renting a lens for this upcoming trip from LensRentals, but can't really decide which lens to rent, and if I really should be renting a lens. Currently, I only own the kit lens for my 550D (and because I'm a High School student, too poor to buy any lenses, except maybe the 50mm), the lenses I was considering were the 24-70 f/2.8L, or the 24-105 f/4L, but am open to all suggestions. I plan on shooting mainly landscapes (for a stop motion project), maybe some wildlife (if there is any, and I happen to be lucky enough), and some stars.

Thanks in advance for the advice!

edit: I also have looked at the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, but the cost to rent was more than both of the L lenses. Also, as a side note, is the extra reach of the 24-105 worth the lost f/stop (for the scenario I described above)

edit 2: I recently recieved a REI gift card, and am looking into getting a camera bag, with the lack of gear I currently have, what would you suggest?

Radiating · Feb 11, 2012

In the spirit of the recent Canon roadmap that was posted I thought I would also post my own roadmap for upgrades.

I'm probably one of the most obsessive photographers about image quality. The reason being that I do photoshop retouching for many of the top photographers in the world. When it comes to editing an image, having the most sharpness, the lowest noise and the highest resolution is absolutaly critical. You can do a lot more with extremely high image quality than you can with low image quality.

For my own purposes I've found that I need at least a minimum of 16 megapixels for cropping, and the lowest noise possible. I also need all 16 of those megapixels to be tack sharp.

With that said here is my roadmap:

Body: I expect Canon to release something with 5D body size with at least 18 MP and much better noise handling than the current 5D II. My number one complaint with the 5D II is the banding noise, and the low dynamic range due to low iso noise, which impacts my style of shooting. It seems likely that Canon will do a 18 MP (1DX sensor)-22 MP body with amazing noise and dynamic range performance (and amazing video) and a 36-45 MP body for the landscape guys.

I will be going for the lower noise body. Noise to me is a significantly more pressing issue than megapixels so I prioritize that as long as I have enough room to crop. I love high MP medium format files but you have to prioritize.

Lenses:

Wide Angle Zoom:

(current) Canon 16-35mm F/2.8 II L - It's the best that's offered with autofocus. I tried an adapted 14-24mm Nikon F/2.8 AF-S and did not like the lack of autofocus. It's nearly as good, though not as wide.

Normal Zoom:

Canon 24-70mm F/2.8 II L - I was dissapointed that this lens lacked a lot of features, it had no IS was not a reverse zoom design like the I version and that it extended when it zoomed. However the image quality that's being reported is nothing short of stunning. So that won me over.

Tamron 24-70mm F/2.8 VC - I'm going to use this lens for low light situations, in effect replacing my 24-105mm with two lenses instead of one. It was An amazing suprise from an unlikley source. This lens means that photographers can get a full stop more light when shooting hand held. It's the equivalent of a F/0.7 lens. Sharpness will be a concern but this is less of a priority in low light.

Telephoto Zooms:

(current) Canon 70-200mm F/4.0 IS L - I chose this lens because while the 70-200mm F/2.8 II IS L is fantastic, I found that the DOF is not usable at those focal lengths and I was always shooting at F/4.0. F/2.8 is better suited to a wider angle lens, so the advantage was in weight.

Macro:

(current) Leica 100mm APO Macro - Self Explanitory, it's an incredible lens.

Primes:

(current) Canon 24mm F/1.4 L II - Amazingly Sharp Lens

(current) Canon 85mm F/1.2 L II - Amazingly Sharp Lens

(current) Canon 50mm F/1.4 - My impression of the Canon 50mm F/1.2 L was that it was too soft so I went with this. I really think Canon needs to release several new 50mm lenses. There have been rumors circulating about this for several years.

Canon 50mm F/1.8 IS - If they release this lens, it will be the king of low light, and hopefully tack sharp. If so that will be my 50mm prime.

I look forwards to reading any reactions you guys may have to my roadmap. I've thought this through very carefully so I'm looking forward to any comments or criticisms.

Thanks.

nightbreath · Feb 11, 2012

I have a Canon 7D and few lenses. The issue I’m experiencing for more than 2 years is related to autofocus with fast primes and can be replicated when camera is focusing at a non-contrast area. It doesn't matter what type of focusing / focusing point I use – I hear focus confirmation in the same manner as if camera has focused properly, but when I make the shot I see that it didn’t.

I've run several tests and identified that the lens AF is inconsistent comparing to Live View autofocus, when area in focus has no contrast. When I use lens AF in ~80% shots I'm getting front-focus issue.

Attached are crops from my tests, red square is the focusing point. Could someone confirm that this is normal behavior? Or should I sent my camera to Canon?

P.S. Shots were taken at ISO 800, 1/80 of a second, f/1.2 and f/1.4, using tripod.

lexonio · Feb 11, 2012

Hello everyone, this is my first post at this forum and, sadly, this is a question

I'm not a pro photographer (but I'm getting there), I'm just a regular guy with a camera who likes to shoot sports, outdoor activities and I'm also involved in a bit of journalism.
I currently use 550D and 17-70 Sigma OS the most, both of which I like, but I'm looking for an upgrade. Is it generally useful to go FF for action shooting? As I've heard 5dmkII is more of a studio camera and thus not so useful for my purposes.

Would you recommend me to wait for 5dmkIII and get 24-105 in the meantime as I originally planned, or is there a better way?

Feb 11, 2012

Has anyone ran into this hiccup with their 1D Mark IV? I was shooting a basketball game today, and this happened to only one out of 890 photos (~photo 390). It's also never happened in the history of my camera or card.

I'm wondering if it was a hiccup in the camera itself, or perhaps the CF card (Transcend 400x 64 GB). I have no way of knowing unless it happens again with a different CF card, or unless someone else has experience. Obviously my concern is forthcoming equipment failure, but if it was a random "solar flare" initiated event, I won't worry.

Feb 11, 2012

Often reviewers remarked that the Canon 17-55 f/2.8 is the APS-C counterpart of the 24-70 f/2.8 FF

Do you think that Canon will release a MKII for the 17-55 f/2.8 in the next 12 months now that Canon released the 24-70 MK II?

And, what should Canon improve on the 17-55 if the release a MKII?

I am curious what you think.

kdw75 · Feb 11, 2012

I have the 7D and really like the camera. I only wish it did better in low light. I feel like this model should perform better in IQ and low light performance compared to the rebels. Now I realize you get the magnesium body, higher fps and better focusing system. But it has always seemed a little wrong that the 7D and maybe the 60D weren't more of a step up from the rebels. Maybe one or both should have gotten a slightly bigger sensor.

Does anyone else agree?

revup67 · Feb 11, 2012

While on a heavily shaded dirt hiking path the other day, I loaded my 15-85mm on the 7D with a tripod and had approximately 60 feet of dirt trail in the view finder at 18mm. I was attempting to create a "blurred trailing effect" from a cyclist but failed. Much like a stream of car lights at night when you slow the shutter speed down. I was using a nine stop Hoya ND400 filter with the lens and had the lens open for about 3 seconds. The exposure was decent despite the heavy contrast however the cyclist didn't appear in the image as he rode the 60 feet of trail. It was as if the event never happened. I finally got another cyclist after shortening the shutter speed to about 1/10th (see attached image) but he was a short blur within the 70 feet and not the effect I was aiming for.

Perhaps this is not do able in shaded daylight but if anyone has any ideas that would be great. Perhaps my 580 EX II using multi flash would resolve this? Open to any thoughts, this is new ground for me.

Actual 1/10s image attached

JT13 · Feb 11, 2012

Hi,

I have just upgraded from a 500D to a 7D. I didn’t really consider FF because I had my focal range pretty well covered with a 10-22mm, 17-55mm and 70-200mm f/4 L IS.
Two weeks after the purchase my 7D was stolen along with the 10-22mm.
Now, I am debating whether to get the 5- or 7-series successor, assuming that the specs are similar.

I take photos just for the fun of it and don’t do excessive printing but enjoy high quality.
Mostly, I take photos while traveling – landscapes, cities, people – as well as my dog.

The main reason for considering FF is that I sometimes see photos that have something mine are missing. It is hard to put a finger on it. It is a certain brilliance that gives the pictures the impression of depth. While there seems nothing obvious to be wrong with my photos they are “flat” and unspectacular in comparison.
Has one of you encountered something similar? I am not even sure if it is the FF or composition, light, post procession, primes etc.

FF from the web:

My out of camera jpgs:

In my pictures nothing pops out, everything seems to be on one plane.
What do you think? Is FF really the reason?

Besides this issue, lower noise in the range of ISO800-3200 would be the main benefit for me.

On the other hand APS-C has a lot of advantages over FF.
From what I have read the 10-22mm is on a level with the 16-35mm as well as the 17-55mm with the 24-70mm while having IS. So for the same glass quality you pay a high surcharge, have to carry more weight and lose tele reach.
To cover the same focal range with a FF body it would be about 1500€ over a crop setup.

If the 7D had been available when you switched to FF would you still have done it?

JT13

Feb 11, 2012

I have been using the 450D since it's been released and though it was time for an upgrade, problem is, I don't know if I should wait for the 70D or get the 60D now.
I assume the 70D will have a Digic 5 processor, = to 75% better noise performance and better videos if I'm not mistaken.
Am I in a hurry for it? Well, no, not really. Although I do have some important events coming in a few weeks, I should be able to deal with them with the 450D. What I do have, is a trip in October, this is the trip in which I desire to have an upgraded camera rather than my 450D.

Feb 11, 2012

I currently own the 18-200mm, 18-55mm IS II, and the 50mm 1.8.
The body I'm using is a 450D, but I plan to upgrade to a 60D or wait for the 70D
My question is, which one would complement my current set of lenses the most?
I chose these 2 because they were in my budget, and obviously, I wanted L......

I shoot events, sports, streets, presentations, trips, etc.

Canon Rumors · Feb 11, 2012

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<strong>Lots of lenses mentioned

</strong>I received what appears to be some kind of lens roadmap. I only ever remember seeing a communication like this one once in the past.  There are definitely some interesting concepts listed. Take all of this with the grain of salt.</p>
<ul>
<li>EF 50 1.8 IS, status “prototype”, has tag “spring 2013″</li>
<li>EF 50 2.5 macro was tagged with “to be replaced”</li>
<li>EF 200 2.8 L IS macro is tagged with “testing”, “patents pending”, and “autumn 2013″</li>
<li>EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″</li>
<li>EF 100-400 4-5.6 L IS tagged “final”, “autumn 2012″</li>
<li>EF 35 1.4 L II tagged “prototype”, “winter 2012″</li>
<li>EF 60 L IS lens tagged “prototype”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Some odd duck EF-S zooms</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>EF-S 20-65 IS</li>
<li>EF-S 45-105 IS status “development”</li>
<li>EF-S 55-70 IS “testing”</li>
<li>EF-S 70-400 IS “prototype”</li>
</ul>
<div>The one that seems the most interesting above is the EF 50 f/1.8 IS. That could become a replacement to the 50 f/1.4 and put some separation between it and the 50 f/1.2L.</div>
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Canon Rumors · Feb 11, 2012

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<strong>Canon 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS

</strong>Received word that we can expect to see a direct replacement of the aging EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS sometime in 2012. It has been rumored quite often that a replacement was coming. Some of those rumors may have been talking about the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x.</p>
<p>We have the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/11/another-ef-100-400-patent/">patent from a few months ago</a> to get an idea of the optical formula.</p>
<p>I was told it would be in the $3000 price range, have a rotating zoom, weigh less, be slightly faster on the wide end at f/4 and carry the latest and greatest coatings and IS.</p>
<p>As with most lenses, an exact announcement date is unknown at this time.</p>
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Feb 11, 2012

No doubt when the 5D MkII replacement is announced there will be a rush of preorders, for what will almost certainly be a very desireable camera, but what are the drawbacks of doing this.

The price is at its maximum, give a month or two and discounting will reduce the price by hundreds of £ or $

Early teething problems may appear that are addressed in later models such as the black dots, or the focus issue of the 1D MkIII

No RAW support for some time. It seems to take an age for software providers to update to the latest cameras, being without photoshop is a real PITA waiting for them to release the next ACR update, and sometimes they don't release one, making you buy a new version of the software.

Of course the upside is that you get your hot little hands on the latest tech before everyone else, and the camera you sell to fund it probably fetches a little more.

I think on balance though, I shall wait, I can't deal with having to convert all the files to .dng before they can be processed, and the length of time that adds to workflow.

photogaz · Feb 11, 2012

I'm really thinking about getting the 24-70 II. I'm mainly a hobby photographer, but I do like having the best.

The way I see it that buying any expensive lens, if the quality is up to par then the lens will last me 10 years. It won't really depreciate like an SLR body would.

Buying older lenses you always have that thought that you might need to replace it with a better model or you've just not got the quality and look for an alternative or a prime.

I'm basically trying to make myself feel better buying the 24-70 II. Is that a justified reason:

Feb 11, 2012

I am shooting a fashion video look book next weekend, and will be using two 5Ds, on one i'm mounting a 50 f1.2 lens, and the other i want at around 100mm. I don't really know whether to use my 70-200 f2.8 or tripod mount my 28-300 at 300 (compression etc).

My other option is my 100L macro.. Has anyone had experienced this with people, and not used as a macro lens? I know it is good for stills with portraits... but how does it handle video?

BlueMixWhite · Feb 10, 2012

Just came into my mind before the launch of 5Dmk2, were there a lot of disappoint on the 5D AF focus? If yes, why there isn't much improvement done on the mk2? I wonder will mk3 be given at least the 7d AF system.

Feb 10, 2012

So, I have been lusting after the 14mm II and 24mm II and the 135 f2.

Been shooting with the 15 fish, 16-35, 50 1.2, 85 1.2, 100 macro L, 28-70L and 70-200 IS. Just picked up the 14, 24 and 135 since Canon was running good rebates.

Thinking for the past year or so that I think I like primes better than the zooms and that the 3 lenses above can replace my zooms. My mk I 16-35 has been a staple at weddings for me along with the 70-200IS, but dam it can get big and heavy, plus it isn't very good indoors for receptions in low light. Really love that f2 on the 135 so I have been hoping I could lose the 70-200, can't really think of a time when I need 200 over the 135 and seem to shoot at 135 or so a lot with it. Plus that f2 is great for inside stuff if needed!

Just received the lenses 2 days ago so all I've done so far is some indoor shots around here comparing the 14 to the 16-35 and wow the 14 kills the zoom. Now I don't know if the 16-35 mk II has fixed these issues but what I found is serious vignetting with the zoom at 2.8, seems to be none at all with the 14, I was like..dam!.....Plus barely any distortion with the 14 compared to the zoom. Never really noticed it before but when comparing the 14 kept lines really straight while the zoom showed barrel distortion, didn't really expect that actually. The 14 is such a cool unique lens, gotta get it outside and get some pics going for a final comparison.

The 24 1.4 is just spectacular and sharp. Makes a great wide lens for most of the day, with the 14 popping on when needed. Love the 1.4 on a wide angle. Great for wedding receptions!

Totally thinking of selling my 16-25 and after a few shots with the 135 I can't really see a use for my 70-200 IS that the 135 can't handle. And the bokeh with f2 is incredible, I think I find it even more pleasing than the zoom at 200 and f2.8. Hopefully I don't miss the IS but with f2 and being able to go to 6400 ISO on the 5dII I don't think it's a problem really. I have some 6400 ISO shots done with the 24 1.4 that are printed at 12.18 and seriously look like they are ISO 100 with no noise...amazing!

I guess I am going to be all prime now and stick with 14, 15 fish, 24 1.4, 50 1.2, 85 1.2, 100 macro L and the 135 f2....Also I am now lusting after the 200 f2...haha...but dunno if it's too close to 135...The 200 f2 and 300f 2.8 IS both look awesome for a long lens to complete my arsenal, although that won't be for a bit since they are 5 grand and up!...lol...what one of the two do you guys suggest?

And now that I am going to sell my zooms most likely, how do you all price your used lenses? Lens prices seem to keep going up when new models come out....and now some lenses like my 28-70L are discontinued...how would that be priced? Any help in this area would be appreciated.

Figured I would post up my thoughts on these lenses since I labored over buying them for so long. I'm sure there are a few of you out there that struggle with these decisions too...Dam Canon for making so many awesome lenses...lmao!

Feb 10, 2012

I appreciate all of the shared knowledge and insights exchanged here. I’ve learned a lot from reading many of your posts.

First, I Recently bought a 7D to replace my Rebel T1i. I thought it might be the best “all around” camera for me at this time. (Looking forward to FF in the future.)

Now, I’m looking to add two more lenses to my gear before budget restraints prevail. I’ve decided on the Tokina 11-16 2.8 for my widest angle shots, but does anyone have any recommendations for an “all around” Macro lens which could be used in conjunction with a Kenko 1.4x Teleplus pro 300, if needed? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

You know, with the increasing cost of lenses, and as I gradually pursue better ones, eventually I can see myself going to “L” in a hand basket.

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