What "exodus" is that?So why would anyone buy the camera that is just announced? Is that just a placeholder to stop the exodus?
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What "exodus" is that?So why would anyone buy the camera that is just announced? Is that just a placeholder to stop the exodus?
I'm not sure there's an "exodus" under way but people are definitely switching. Can't wait forever to get the features you want from canon. I have an A7III and 24-70GM on order. I still would prefer to use a canon camera for the friendly user interface, colors and ergonomics but they're not offering the features that I'm looking for. Many people are in the same boat. I may come back to Canon if they ever catch up though.What "exodus" is that?
I hope they don't call it the 'R Pro". How cheesy would that be?
People switch all the time, both ways. Of course you should pick whichever brand meets your needs. This forum, or any forum, is not representative of what may or may not be happening yet people act as though there are vast numbers of folks switching around. There are people here that have been threatening to switch for years and years. However, somebody throwing around the word "exodus" hasn't got a clue. Perception is not necessarily reality.I'm not sure there's an "exodus" under way but people are definitely switching. Can't wait forever to get the features you want from canon. I have an A7III and 24-70GM on order. I still would prefer to use a canon camera for the friendly user interface, colors and ergonomics but they're not offering the features that I'm looking for. Many people are in the same boat. I may come back to Canon if they ever catch up though.
"Flagship" doesn't quite have the same cachet when the fleet consists of two ships...The word flagship has been associated with the EOS 1D series since it was launched and the EOS 1 series of film cameras before that.
... I need a high end pro mirrorless camera for my work flow.
Mirrorless images edit faster in Photoshop. That's what I hear from Sony fans anyway.I'm curious, what features do you need? I'm not trolling, just curious, as I am only a hobbyist. I mostly shoot birds and other wildlife, so my requirements lean towards fast focus and long focal lengths. I've never thought "gee, I wish this mirror wasn't in the camera", but maybe I don't understand what I'm missing. Is it mostly the advanced features available through the viewfinder, or something else?
Too generic. I do not say this is not good but can it be quantified? What good does it do to me when I shoot birds and I am always Focal Length limited? I still need the 5DsR.Canon technician at Photokina told me that the EOS R with either the RF 50mm f1.2L or the RF 28-70mm f2L gave results similar to the 5DS. If that's the case and given that both Sony & Nikon have cameras in the 40+ MP range, an EOS R Pro camera to be the spiritual successor to the 5DS / 5DSr would make a lot of sense. Personally I don't think this should be the prototype 120MP sensor, staying around 50MP mark is way more than enough and keeps shutter speeds manageable.
Second Sony and Fuji has taken a large market share away from Canon and that goes with Nikon too.
If the camera has a single card slot I will not buy it. I have been burned before due to my computer could not read a card on a job I did. I now always shoot dual cards. Looks like I will be leaving Canon to Sony. I waited too long for this Camera. I bought the Fuji XT2 system to hold me over. I am going to sell all my Canon lenses. The work I do now requires me to shoot silent and for a camera to shoot well in low light. My Canon 5D Mark lll’s are paper weights due to their large shutter counts. Looks like the Sony A9 is the Mirrorless king and best manufacturer. Canon will blow it big time if this new camera is less than the quality of the Sony. Their future hinges on their new Mirrorless products. They lost a ton of market share to Sony because of their executives did not listen to what the pros needed. Their egos blew it for them. To me they have the mentality of what Kodak did. They did not foresee the future in camera bodies.
Mirrorless images edit faster in Photoshop. That's what I hear from Sony fans anyway.
That wouldn't be such a bad partnership. The A chips are very powerful and efficient. Cue HF and some more theories.
The problem is Canon came late to the game and I cannot wait any longer. I need a high end pro mirrorless camera for my work flow. I do not want a camera with one card slot. I have already been burned twice with two cards the computer said it could not read the cards. One lab wanted $1500 to get the images back. I always shoot with two cards now. I also need a mirrorless camera that can shoot mutiple photos while in the silent mode. Second Sony and Fuji has taken a large market share away from Canon and that goes with Nikon too. I own the Fuji XT-2 system along with a number of Canon 5D Mark lll's and lenses. I have been happy with the Fuji camera but I also need a full frame mirrorless camera and I believe the Sony a9 to be the type of camera I need right now. It is a camera that can shoot better in lower light setting and higher ISO's than the Fuji cameras. I have learned that Canon sales people and technicians know knowing about new product development. Their job is either to fix or sell the products that are in the market place. I asked a few Canon reps two years ago at the NAB show in Las Vegas what is Canon going to do with the professional mirrorless camera market and they had no clue.
I can't seem to find it but I'm pretty sure some site mentioned that Canon was setting up a new production line for their processors that can produce a much smaller die. Right now the digic 8 processors are somewhere around a 35-40nm process. Most new phones use somewhere around a 10nm process, and most 'cheap' phones using previous years processes are still around 23nm or smaller.
Just shrinking the die means they can put twice as many transistors in the same amount of space, or they can choose to just keep the number the same and have less power consumption and greater speed. A combination of the two could lead to some very speedy digic processors.
However the size of the actual sensor is hard to shrink at this point, because of the physics of light. That's why stacking the processors can be so effective, as the signal can travel backwards to a corresponding set of transistors to do initial processing rather than through a trace all the way to the edge of the board before being handed off to those transistors. (this is different than Foveon's use of the term 'stacked', where they actually stack the sensors themselves to capture more light).
I'd lean towards a 1dx style camera in 1st quarter with dual digic or a new die-shrunk digic 9. I hope we will see one of their new stacked sensors in production soon though because that opens the door to 4k/8k 120fps. Right now they can't do that because of the heat and bandwidth. Smaller processes for the stacked portion of the die and external digics mean more bandwidth + less power which equals less heat.
Am I the only one who has no interested in increased resolution beyond what's already offered in the 5DIV? I feel like they hit the apex with that sensor. The files are gigantic already and when I come back from a wedding with 2000-3000 files on average I really don't care to have even bigger files to manage.
I'm waiting for the second edition of the R2.... the R2 V2.... I have a use for it on the master's sail barge
Flagship so that will be a mirrorless 1D style camera, so unlikely to be high mega pixel.