Here are more Canon EOS R6 Specifications [CR2]

I'll be interested to see how the R6 performs in the real world (especially the EVF), but at least at the moment I just can't get excited about 20 MP. And I'm not interested in video, so the video capabilities are wasted on me.

The R5 - not to mention most of the RF lenses - is (going to be) more than I want to spend on photography gear (it's just a hobby), I'm not feeling excited about the R6, and even the R is still selling (new) for over A$2500 and often cloe to A$3000 (even before spending over A$300 if you want a control ring adapter) ... and I'm far from sold on an EVF. I'm sure the R/RF gear is good, but at this stage it's not appealing to me as something I actually might buy. I will remain interested to read the R5 and R6 real world reviews though. I guess it's always possible I'll change my mind.

PS - the largest prints I've made at 45 inch x 30 inch, and the shots were taken with a 20 MP 6D, so I know 20 MP is not bad ... but I also know I would have liked a few more MP, and I'm up to 26 MP with the 6D II so I going back to 20 MP just doesn't appeal.
 
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it's really not that bad, step away from the cliff.

the A7R IV is around 1/30th of a second, the A7 III is around 1/15 - 1/28th of a second.

however, the dude at EOSHD is losing his mind at 1/32 of a second on the 1DX Mark III. Of course, because it's canon. Never mind his current love affair with the GFX 100 which has a worse rolling shutter.

Sure it's no A9 but I don't think Canon ever claimed it was.
Hm never realy used my A7R IV for video, since its not that great when it comes to colors - the 1DX II and Lumix S1H are much nicer in this regard.

But in the everyday work I found the rolling shutter on my 5D IV realy realy bad. The crop is one thing - I can work around that somehow (though its not that great to have a fullframe camera and only 1,84 crop in video mode). But the rolling shutter cant be fixed with another lense. And especially at higher focals lenses the rolling shutter is realy annoying. Its not only that pans look bad - the general image feels more teared when you use the camera handheld. For example if you tilt the camera upwards, the image gets teared a bit and feels not realy smooth.

However, I am very confident that the R5 will be noteable better in this regard. "Dealbreaker" was a bit of an hyperbole from me ;-D
 
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20mpix is a little low for a landscape/studio camera I plan to buy in 2022. What were they thinking, grading it down from the R in the same price bracket? Canon probably understands that resolution is a hard limit that will entice people to buy again in a couple of years. Bad battery life you could deal with, but resolution is what it is....
 
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RF 24-105 f4 L IS or RF 24-70 f2.8 L IS (I like the 24-105 idea and it is getting great review)
I personaly like 24-70 2,8 MUCH more than 24-105. I have the EF 24-105 L (as backup) and I pretty much never use it, not even for travel. I prefer the better IQ of the 24-70 L 2,8 II. But most important is for my work the F2,8 over F4 - I think its a noteable difference for portraits. With the 24-70 I could shoot an entire wedding - even portraits with a nice shallow depth of field and even shots in rather dark light are possible. F4 is a little bit less usefull in this area in my opinion :-)
 
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The rolling shutter and digital zoom capabilities of the R5 and R6 will probably be the deciding factor for me. Of course, other unexpected differences will probably materialize after these cameras are released.
On the other hand, 4K 120p of the R5 and Raw record are attractive.
I'm going to have to wait for full reviews of both cameras to decide.
 
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I still want to know if it will have a recording limit
By recording limit do you mean the 29 minute 59 seconds thing? You shouldn't need to ask that; it's a tax thing. Certain large markets tax "video cameras" at a much higher rate and the primary definition is whether it can record 30 minutes or more at a go. Don't bother asking this about any brand's cameras that are not dedicated video cameras.
 
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I personaly like 24-70 2,8 MUCH more than 24-105. I have the EF 24-105 L (as backup) and I pretty much never use it, not even for travel. I prefer the better IQ of the 24-70 L 2,8 II. But most important is for my work the F2,8 over F4 - I think its a noteable difference for portraits. With the 24-70 I could shoot an entire wedding - even portraits with a nice shallow depth of field and even shots in rather dark light are possible. F4 is a little bit less usefull in this area in my opinion :)

Are you talking the EF versions of the 24-70 / 24-105 or the RF versions? I have been very conflicted over this decision the new RF is shaper than the old. I currently own the EF 24-70 f2.8 L II which I could keep and adapt to the R system. My interest in the RF 24-105 f4 L IS was the .25lbs lighter (.50lbs lighter than the RF 24-70), IS, and extra 35mm of focal length. It also gave me a 2 RF lens solution that covered 24-500 without a break. I know the f2.8 is an advantage and both f2.8's are probably shaper than the RF 24-105 f4 L IS. Do you think you would use the RF 24-105 if it was sharper than the old 24-105? I replaced my EF 70-200 f2.8 L IS II with the EF 70-200 f4 L IS II to save weight and have never looked back, great lens.
 
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Lacking economies of scale in the sensor business will likely continue to be Canon‘s biggest weakness in the future. I suspect the R6 20mpix is for that reason too, i.e. synergies with 1dxiii production. One needs to factor that into the decision for a future camera system.
 
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Suddenly very interested in the R6. The big question for me is "identical AF" -- will the R6 have an identical processor to the R5? I could live with 20MP quite comfortably if I could get 1DXIII live view-esque AF in an ~$2,500 USD package.
 
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Are you talking the EF versions of the 24-70 / 24-105 or the RF versions? I have been very conflicted over this decision the new RF is shaper than the old. I currently own the EF 24-70 f2.8 L II which I could keep and adapt to the R system. My interest in the RF 24-105 f4 L IS was the .25lbs lighter (.50lbs lighter than the RF 24-70), IS, and extra 35mm of focal length. It also gave me a 2 RF lens solution that covered 24-500 without a break. I know the f2.8 is an advantage and both f2.8's are probably shaper than the RF 24-105 f4 L IS. Do you think you would use the RF 24-105 if it was sharper than the old 24-105? I replaced my EF 70-200 f2.8 L IS II with the EF 70-200 f4 L IS II to save weight and have never looked back, great lens.
I mean the EF 24 - 105 f4L IS I and the EF 24-70 f2,8L II.
The EF 24- 105 f4L I is not that sharp or great. Also the IS is quite loud. The II is a bit better I read. And the RF is said to be also better. So the difference to the 24-70 (which is very sharp and has great colors, bokeh and af) isnt that big anymore.
But I think that the advantage of one stop is for me more important than the extra 35mm zoom range :)
 
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Anyone know "No top-down screen" means the R6 has fixed (no vari-angle tilt) LCD screen on the back or that referes to the LCD screen that shows setting on the top?

It means the settings screen at the top. I'm finding the R6 more interesting that the R5 from a usability point of view. On the R the visibility of the top down display wasn't that great compared to the old style, the dial is welcome and the lower pixel count could mean fatter pixels and better IQ.
 
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not going an SD bus over express bus. Express bus technology any day. SD cards have very slow write times and is where the bottleneck starts.

I agree with you! But my statement was about what people prefer. People (online, at least) have gotten so mad about cameras that use more expensive CFexpress media instead of SD - and they don't look at what the benefits of an Express bus are offering them.. they just see price. I totally expect that the fact the R6 has two SD slots over the mixed media option of the R5 will be a selling point to many people, those who don't want to pay for the extra performance of CFexpress.
 
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I'm greedy...can I get a waveform monitor? I don't use zebras as much as I use the WFM, WFM is way more useful but usually so small you need an external monitor to see it.

Waveform is something I'm really curious about too. I switched from a 5D Mark IV to a Panasonic S1 a year ago and am unsure about whether I'd want to move to the R5 if it doesn't have a waveform overlay. The lack of that feature in the 1DX Mark III has me worried
 
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It is aimed at the future A7IV (or a bit towards the A7SIII as well).
It has much better video specs than the A7III with 10bit 4k60p, swivel screen, probably better IBIS, more advanced AF, way better EVF and screen, both card slots are UHS-II, etc.
A7RIII is a cheap option to get 42MP, but severly lacking in other aspects, slower frame-rate, not as good AF, no full touchscreen, etc. I mean it is a much older camera of course, so it should be lagging behind.

And while the current lens selection is less, but what they have for the new wider RF mount is looking better than the Sony, with IS on both the 15-35/2.8 and 24-70/2.8 lenses, with Sony one has to go to f/4 to get lens IS, 70-200/2.8 much more compact, etc.
Nothing particularly wrong with Sony, but the EOS R system is looking pretty strong for 2020, and it's only going to get better still.

Sony’s mirrorless AF has been better than canons. I am hoping that this camera changes that.
The current R series is not better than the older A73 in terms of autofocus.
 
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Waveforms would be nice but they require a lot of processing and I don’t think Canon can handle that extra load on top of everything else they are trying to manage. The Panasonic’s aren’t putting anywhere near as much effort into AF as Canon’s DPAF so they can afford the extra cycles. I’m guessing you’ll need to go with an external recorder if you really want waveforms at this point. I’d love to be wrong
 
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