I can't speak to 1DX2 users but my current situation is that I am one of those amateur photographers that has a 1DX. I have no monetary justification for having bought 1 series cameras. If I am being honest real life pressures have had me drift away from photography as a hobby. The jump from a 1DX (Mark Zero) to a 5D is not really downmarket for me. I get a lot more and can still use my EF lenses and pick up RF lenses when I can. And some new toys might re-spark interest in the hobby.
It’s too bad they can’t give them away, with any new technology there’s always going to be that premium tag, it’s just not canon that has that, Any sony gmaster lens cost just as much as the RF lens, they just release a new 12-24f2.8 for $3k, so you might be better off just staying with the 6dII, and if you move up to the R you Can use all you’re lenses, so in reality you’re just looking at $1700 . I have the R and it’s way better than The 6d. I’m getting the R5 aswell, good times
If you need to do long sessions, A ninja V will give you unlimited recording and no heating issues, I think that’s what a lot people do anyways with these cameras when they film a lot
Yeah, there is some reason to stick with Canon so I can keep using existing lenses, but then again if I'm going to end up with a mirrorless camera I'd like to be in a system which has lenses like a 24-70 2.8 (eg the Sigma one for Sony) and a relatively compact and light weight (Tamron) 70-180 (if not 70-200) which I might consider buying. With the RF lenses at current prices, I'm not going to be buying the RF 24-70 2.8 IS or RF 70-200 2.8 IS any time in the foreseeable future, least of all when there are much cheaper alternatives available if I switched to Sony. The Canon lenses might be awesome, but if I'm not going to buy them they are not any good to me! And as for getting an EOS R for $1,700, I assume you are talking about US$1,700. EOS R prices have gone up here in Australia even just in the last couple of weeks. Leaving aside grey market, stores are now selling them for about A$3,000, and that does not even include an RF/EF adapter. Even grey market is at least A$2400.
Jared Polin was unboxing his R5/R6 today and his reviews are usually pretty thorough. He said it would probably take 2 weeks to do a thorough review. I don’t think you can expect more than high level at this point since most of the reviewers have only had the cameras a short time.
8k and storm stills sounds a good fit, lightening is a difficult catch
the cropping might not work out as the resolution of the lens may not match the 45mp of the sensor, you would really have to see dxo and do the math, many older lenses suffer with the 20mpI don't agree that these cameras are different only in resolution for $1400 or that they are both an R6 with only one major feature difference (resolution). I would agree the $1400 might be slightly much for all that you do get, but it is not just resolution on the list.
Just talking resolution, when it is needed, 45 vs. 20 MP allows over a third of the frame to be cropped in either dimension and have the same quality, or it can be down sampled uncropped to eliminate noise. It also allows for larger prints, and I did see my large print quality improve when I went from 20-30MP as it obviously should. I could never go back to my 6D @ 20 MP for many types of shooting I do (timelapse, astro photography, severe weather, landscape) without a significant loss in quality and post processing options. For some people, 20MP might be fine as it was for me for many years, but I push right to the edge of even the 5D4 capabilities currently at 30MP, and that extra 1/4 of cropping I can do is used all the time. 45MP will be even better.
If you consider all the difference between these cameras, the $1400 starts to make more sense and they appear very similarly priced and spec'd to the mirrorless updated equivalents of the 5D4 and 6D:
For myself, its a bit much and obviously marketing separation, but when considering my needs the 1400 seems worth it in the end and it is hard to regard these as simply two R6 with one having more resolution. I shoot in bad weather, I push resolution, and the better EVF and screen will be welcome for someone used to non articulating DSLR (5D4 and 6D).
- 8K (debatable how many of us will actually use it)
- 4K DCI vs UHD (essential if that is your project format)
- +25 MP (significant for many types of photo and video work, and if you need it, you need it.)
- Better weather sealing
- Better LPF
- Higher resolution viewfinder
- Larger rear screen (slightly) with higher resolution
- Faster Wifi and newer bluetooth.
- For 4K video the R5 is full frame vs. a slight crop on the R6 (not a big deal).
- Top screen (RF control ring might make this less needed but still nice to have)
- Several more video modes such as shutter and aperture priority
- More resolutions and codecs
- 3 pin remote shutter release port vs 2.5mm
- Nearly all metal vs part plastic body
- Dual pixel raw (it isn't that amazing in the past, but some new features and DSP are promising)
- R5 ships earlier
I loved my 1dx II, but don’t need the robust and heavy body. Good weather sealing and performance is all I need. TheR5 / R6 specs seem to indicate they will meet or exceed the 1dx II. The only unanswered question on both cameras is the EVF lag for fast action. The battery issue I can solve with extra batteries or a grip. I sold my 5dIV last year and the 1dx II was shipped off last week. I am keeping my 70-200 f4 L IS II and 100-400 II until I verify the performance of bodies and comparable RF lenses. The R5 will get used for landscape and wildlife when he light is good, the R6 will be the go to camera when the light fades. I don't really see this as moving downstream as long as both cameras meet their spec an the bodies are reasonably sealed. I can alway return the RF gear and buy a 1dx III if I am not happy, but I have a feeling I am really going to like the new bodies and lenses.
If you want a really in depth review, he may be worth tolerating. His review of the 1dx III was thorough and he spent a lot of time breaking down the + / - of the camera. He went the extra step and kludged together a solution to actually shoot the 1dx III as a mirrorless so he could understand the full capability. If he does a thorough review, I can look past the personality. I know he is not for everyone and I can only tolerate in small doses.
