There will not be an EOS 5D Mark V [CR2]

In fairness, some of those 5D V sales would be to people also buying the R5. .
In fact, we really have to see how many people who try the R5 feel any need whatsoever for a unicorn 5DV. Some might; however, many, many more might just say, "Whoa. Where have you been all my life? Who needs a mirror?"
 
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I think the worst part of this whole rumor is that, if true, it means that there will be nothing interesting on Canon Rumors for the next year. Wake me up when 2021 is over.
Disaggree. McKinnon said in a video that more is to come - hinting to bodies.
My bet would be a high res body, something close to 100MP.
Maybe we may even see an R1 before the olympics.

However, I'm waiting for a pro 35mm (f1.2 or f1.4)
 
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If im forced to change to the R line (im 5D user from MK I to MKIV)is the adaptor lens good enough to work with the EF lens with this new body ? im very concern about this. Can anyone enlighten on this?
Yes. The adapter isn't a lens, but a spacer to make up for the flange distance difference between EF/RF. Your lenses will work perfectly and you'll never have to AFMA again.
 
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I think that unfortunately this rumour is going to be 100% true. I don’t think Canon will make a 5DV, not because there is no need for a 5DV or there is no market for it but for the opposite reason. The 5D line is Canon’s best FF line among pros and enthusiasts. If a 5DV was to be announced then can you imagine the impact it would have to the R5’s and R6’s sales? R5 and R6 seem great cameras, actually they seem more than great but they still cannot compare to a 5D successor. Why? Because people know the 5D line, they know what is capable of, they know how well built they are and how reliable they are. So I think between a 5DV with already owned lenses (from every 5D owner) and an R5 most would choose the 5DV. But Canon doesn’t want to give them the choice, for Canon the only path is mirrorless and the RF mount and that’s why the 5D successor is called R5 and the 6D successor is called R6. The good thing is that no one needs to buy new lenses since the EF lenses work pretty well when adapted to an RF camera, at least to the previous models.
 
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Less we forget people are now so used to seeing 24FPS that when higher FPS are tried people dislike it. And now for CGI I am sure it is probably cheeper to render 24 frames rather than 60 or 90 per second.

It's a shame, 24fps has become so culturally ingrained that it feels 'wrong' to use other frame rates for film (see: the backlash The Hobbit got). Imagine an Avengers or Star Trek or Fast & Furious film at 60fps, the detail would be incredible.
 
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The good thing is that no one needs to buy new lenses since the EF lenses work pretty well when adapted to an RF camera, at least to the previous models.
Yes but once you have the RF body(s) the itch to buy RF lenses starts :)

I suppose in a way, for me, the news of no 5DV, and so, if true even over the medium term, inevitably the end of the future Canon DSLR and EF lenses, works out great for me as I can buy many more EF lenses on the used market at giveaway prices, and I can get a half price 5DIV to complement my 5DSs. So I say to Canon, thanks Pal (y)
 
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It's a shame, 24fps has become so culturally ingrained that it feels 'wrong' to use other frame rates for film (see: the backlash The Hobbit got). Imagine an Avengers or Star Trek or Fast & Furious film at 60fps, the detail would be incredible.
I'd heard a lot about the Hobbit and that controversy, but it looked great to me.
 
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Why would anyone pay more for a camera with an obsolete mount and inferior AF system?
EF is hardly obsolete. Canon has made the transition to RF very easy. I have pre-ordered a R5 but will only be using 1 RF lens (RF 70-200mm) and the rest will be EF.
"Inferior AF system"? The 1DXII's AF system is hardly inferior. Certainly superior to the 5Div's AF system (via OVF). The liveview AF system would be the same as the R5 for it to sell well.
 
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EF is hardly obsolete. Canon has made the transition to RF very easy. I have pre-ordered a R5 but will only be using 1 RF lens (RF 70-200mm) and the rest will be EF.
"Inferior AF system"? The 1DXII's AF system is hardly inferior. Certainly superior to the 5Div's AF system (via OVF). The liveview AF system would be the same as the R5 for it to sell well.
But the better AF only works in Liveview! So basically using a DSLR as a mirrorless camera. In which case why not use a mirrorless camera to begin with?
 
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My theory is that 5DV is going to happen at some point in a smaller series - for those who need every electron from the battery to be spent efficiently out in the field, far away from a charger. But as many have said, it makes sense for Canon to kill off hope for it until they sell enough R5 cameras to cover the development costs and then some.

Just because the R&D for Mk V was stopped doesn't mean all data has been destroyed and all progress has been scrapped. They have so much experience with this series that they could announce it in a month when they want it and have production going in another 3 months (and I think I'm being generous here), they just have to decide on what mix of features to put inside.
 
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But the better AF only works in Liveview! So basically using a DSLR as a mirrorless camera. In which case why not use a mirrorless camera to begin with?
Yes, liveview = mirrorless camera. This shouldn't be a surprise. The only difference is using the screen on the back vs EVF/screen on a mirrorless.
It is the same situation with the current 1DXiii where the AF point coverage is greater than the OVF coverage. There is no 1DX equivalent in mirrorless - not yet. If you want/need the features of the 1DX then it is your hybrid camera for you.
If people want an OVF and the size of the 5Div and can accept the R5's benefits in liveview then that would be an option. An advantage for this setup could be much longer video times as the heat management would be better with a bigger body.
Pros and cons for both.
 
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Yes, liveview = mirrorless camera. This shouldn't be a surprise. The only difference is using the screen on the back vs EVF/screen on a mirrorless.
It is the same situation with the current 1DXiii where the AF point coverage is greater than the OVF coverage. There is no 1DX equivalent in mirrorless - not yet. If you want/need the features of the 1DX then it is your hybrid camera for you.
If people want an OVF and the size of the 5Div and can accept the R5's benefits in liveview then that would be an option. An advantage for this setup could be much longer video times as the heat management would be better with a bigger body.
Pros and cons for both.
I saw Jared Polin use a loupe attached to the back of the 1dx3 to take sports photos with the good AF. The way he had to hold the camera looked painful! I definitely wouldn't want that kind of setup in order to get edge to edge AF.
 
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My theory is that 5DV is going to happen at some point in a smaller series - for those who need every electron from the battery to be spent efficiently out in the field, far away from a charger. But as many have said, it makes sense for Canon to kill off hope for it until they sell enough R5 cameras to cover the development costs and then some.

Just because the R&D for Mk V was stopped doesn't mean all data has been destroyed and all progress has been scrapped. They have so much experience with this series that they could announce it in a month when they want it and have production going in another 3 months (and I think I'm being generous here), they just have to decide on what mix of features to put inside.
5d is cheap now and 5dV would have been cheaper than R5 i guess...R is weird and R6 is not in good price because of video features.. thats what I feel
 
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I suspect their focus is more on how much business went to companies that have already gone full mirrorless, I doubt their thinking is about 'forcing' anyone to do anything regarding a particular model like the 5DV. If the market was really preferring to stay with OVF's and power saving etc, they should have already been making out like gangbusters.
 
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Uh??? Nonsense.
To my knowledge, it doesn't happen so often that there's a whole new system...

No, but my point is the same - you can make the 'one more overlap camera' argument for the rest of your life - at some point Canon has to decide to stop supporting competing product lines just for the few (and getting fewer) holdouts that won't cross over to mirrorless.

The EVF argument is lost on me because what I shoot isn't so demanding as to not work for me, so there's that - BUT I don't make my living with my camera so I'm not that hard over as to what I 'need' versus what I 'want'...

I'm just saying that at some point Canon will cut the cord and if they are, indeed, going to continue making the 5D4 then now is as good a time as any.

I don't have a dog in the fight because I'll be going mirrorless from here on out. If they make a 5D5 I'll be absolutely thrilled for those that really want one.
 
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