Canon EOS R5 Mark II Specifications

[MSH411]

I've never experienced a Error 70 before in the last nearly 4 years. Yes, it is disappointing that it happens to a few people but I would suggest that they are anecdotal rather than the norm (as most forums are).

Thanks for the feedback David. While researching the R5 I found a thread on the Canon Community of more than a few people that gave me pause. I picked up a R6 MII and figured I would hold tight until the R5 MII was released to see if the issue carried over to the new body.

 

[SnowMiku]

I have a R6ii and a R8, every time I reach for it in my camera bag it seems to magically turn to a random setting. Every time i power on the camera I have to recheck which mode I'm in, which slows me down. I far prefer the R5 top LCD screen is way more less likely to get knocked or shifted.

My 90D and M5 have a button on top of the dial you need to hold before the dial moves. I wonder why they removed that in the R8 and R6ii?

 

[ijohnsson]

Yawn

 

[David - Sydney]

Thanks for the feedback David. While researching the R5 I found a thread on the Canon Community of more than a few people that gave me pause. I picked up a R6 MII and figured I would hold tight until the R5 MII was released to see if the issue carried over to the new body.

Given the increasing complexity of menu/features based on SW, I think that the possibility of errors is increasing. In a sense, the R5 is pretty bedded down now after a number of years.

A new body/processor and features is likely to have a greater risk of errors - at least initially. I fully expect a few quick firmware releases in the first few months (similar to the R5).

 

[AlanF]

I've never experienced a Error 70 before in the last nearly 4 years. Yes, it is disappointing that it happens to a few people but I would suggest that they are anecdotal rather than the norm (as most forums are).

You have disillusioned me. I've never had an Error 70 in 4 years with my R5 and I thought I was unique with the only trouble-free R5 in existence. If everyone made their decisions of not to buy on such internet forum gossip, all camera sales would stop dead.

 

[DhlcadR6]

Err 70 is overblown on the Internet. My R6 didn't suffer that. And somehow those Sony users who claim Err 70 is the reason they switched system.

 

[Sporgon]

My 90D and M5 have a button on top of the dial you need to hold before the dial moves. I wonder why they removed that in the R8 and R6ii?

On the R6II, a feature to save for the R6III…;-)
On the R8 the dial is placed so as to be turned by the ball of your thumb whilst holding camera in the normal way. I actually found this quite useful, though I admit occasionally the mode dial got turned unintentionally.
Personally I think the control layout on the RP / R8 is very good, especially for the camera’s market segment.

 

[talkin73]

Not really a step forward for my purposes as it stands - I’m hopeful there’s some more to share.

Agree. I like my R5 for many reasons, but accepted that the shutter was already several behind what was being offered by other companies. These specs just seems to catch the camera up a bit, though nothing particularly meaningful in the list of “updates”. I’d call them “catch ups” instead.

 

[Del Paso]

My 90D and M5 have a button on top of the dial you need to hold before the dial moves. I wonder why they removed that in the R8 and R6ii?

$$$$$$$ ?

 

[AlanF]

$$$$$$$ ?

¢¢¢¢¢¢ only. Lack of stop knob on R7 mode dial is also a pain.

 

[[email protected]]

So I guess around a month until we get those 30 lenses we were promised in the first half of the year along with it?

This is, of course, referring to the CEO's claim of coming lenses in a shareholder update from many months back. It seemed ludicrous at the time, and has proven to have no apparent bearing on actual release cadence.

If I recall, at the time, the language he used spoke generally of lenses, which of course could be interpreted as including lenses for their home security, medical devices and other divisions. Which would make it a weasely thing to say, especially in the context of setting shareholder expectations. We tend to read into that sort of comment R mount lenses.

Taken altogether, the information we've been told by Canon executives over the last three years has been sparse, not straightforward, and in several cases inaccurate. We have contradictory statements about third party lens releases and Canon lens release cadence. I suspect some of this has to do with info coming from different home offices in various countries. For instance, much of the ballyhoo about 3rd party lenses came from a Canon Germany source. They may be less well informed, or be operating in countries with different intellectual property regimes.

 

[[email protected]]

But what about ***?
High dynamic range dual gain stills?
Pixel shift that produces raw?
Raw histogram?..

If a stacked sensor delivers less rolling shutter, then that I can put in the + column. Ditto the 60 fps burst (though would like to see that coupled with a larger buffer).

Outside of that, there's not much on offer to suggest much design love going to the R5 series after half a decade. There may be lots of unmentioned improvements, such as heat and battery stuff; a few features from the other series added in, etc.

Quarkcharmed's list above would be great additions, but reads more like a wishlist than the sort of thing Canon throws into a Mark II.

Of the potential elements that might make me upgrade, a better pixelshift one would do it. When I shot Panasonic with the S1R, I used that a ton, and it was much better than Canon's current implementation. Dual gain benefits to stills would pull me into upgrading too, but then I'd have expected either or both of those to lead the spec change list when communicated.

All in all, this sounds like the sort of upgrade that the R6 saw to the R6 II, which is - unfortunately - perhaps a realistic prediction based on precedent.

 

[Mike9129]

Not sure if you've noticed, but the specs haven't been released yet. I wouldn't be getting my panties in a bunch until the specs do actually get announced by Canon

Youre absolutely right, its just generally these leaks come with a "headline" feature. Id expect most of the specs to be just upgrades on an already great camera, but usually the leaks have something a bit exciting in them.

Early days always of course, so we'll see what else comes out.

 

[davidhfe]

Youre absolutely right, its just generally these leaks come with a "headline" feature. Id expect most of the specs to be just upgrades on an already great camera, but usually the leaks have something a bit exciting in them.

Early days always of course, so we'll see what else comes out.

The headline feature here is the stacked sensor. I believe this is the current list of sub $4000 full frame cameras with stacked sensors:

- Nikon Z8

Competitively, The R5 specs imply this will shoot 3x faster, and extend Canon's AF lead, and IMO canon's got a better native lens lineup. Sony makes you pick a lane (A7R or A9) or spend $6k on the A1. The Z8/Z9 feel very much like Nikon threw EVERYTHING at them and I don't expect a leapfrog. We'll see what Sony can miracle up; if they drop a stacked high mp sensor in an A1 body they can maintain their pricing. If not the A1 will need to drop pricing by 1/3.

This all checks out for me. We got spoiled with the rapid advancement of mirrorless over the last few years, and AI isn't quite there yet in terms of real world impact. 4 years ago stacked sensors were dreamland technology and had IQ tradeoffs and now they're basically essential (outside of somebody dropping a 75-100mp studio camera?).

 

[Talys]

it’s an excellent lens! Still hard to come by. They were in stock at Procam this morning, but sold out now. If you look, you can probably find one. The RF 10-20/4 has been out of stock at all the major retailers for a while now, but with some diligent Google searching I was able to find one at a small shop in Washington DC.

Thanks! I'll hunt

 

[MSH411]

If used is an option KEH has one LN- for $1973

 

[justaCanonuser]

The Sony A1 is a fine camera.

I know. Sony put with it a lot or pressure on CaNikon to move forward, and this deserves a lot of respect. A strong competition is the best we users can hope for.

 

[Loswr]

If used is an option KEH has one LN- for $1029

We were discussing the RF 24-105mm f/2.8L. I haven’t checked, but somehow I doubt KEH has a used copy of a recently released, $3000 lens for 1/3 of that price, in any condition.

 

[danfaz]

Thanks! I'll hunt

Canon RF 24-105mm f/2.8 L IS USM Z

www.cpricewatch.com

 

[Talys]

I was interested in the 200-800 also. I already have the 100-500, which is just fantastic. Christopher Frost just put out a video on the 200-800 and I was a little disappointed with his results/tests. Seems it's pretty soft, especially at 800mm. But for the price still very decent.

I just received my 200-800. The funniest thing about it was that it was packed in a box the size of what an L lens would typically be, inside a carrying case. But since it isn't an L, and doesn't come with a carrying case, there was a cardboard box inside the cardboard box It included a kind of useless strap, but (yay) a lens hood. It's about the same weight as a 28-70 (though of course much longer), and the two can share 95mm filters. The ergonomics are good, but I miss a separate control ring + focus ring like the 100-500 has. The control/focus ring is also not clicky, obviously.

It was pretty cloudy when it came yesterday, and I haven't done much with it, but I snapped the photo below handheld in my back yard at 800mm, at 1/800 f/9 ISO 6400 on an R5. It's literally the only photo I took - I had only a couple of minutes. Pixel peeping, it doesn't look tack sharp at 800mm, but obviously, some of that's could be me.

I also own the 100-500. I don't think that it's an either/or. I do not like the 100-500 with a 1.4x extender (because of the protrusion at/reduction of minimum zoom). The autofocus on the 200-800 is very fast (and very usable); impressive, in my opinion, given the aperture.

In the grand scheme of things, I think I'm pretty happy owning/keeping both, though the overlap means I'd rarely, if ever, pack both with me.