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The Megapixels are Coming [CR1]

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<strong>More pixels are coming


</strong>A suggestion that a high megapixel camera is coming from Canon, and could be introduced near the end of 2012. Alongside the camera would come new ultra wide angle lens(es). It was suggested both a zoom and a prime in the area of 16mm.</p>
<p>I warn that this sort of conjecture will be a regular occurrence going forward I think. There is a large number of people in the community that desire a 35  megapixel camera from Canon.</p>
<strong>NAB 2012?


</strong>Some have suggested the upcoming 4K DSLR will be the high megapixel camera. I don’t believe that to be true, as the high megapixel count is definitely a request of the photographic community, and paying for high end video features is probably not something that would make the segment too happy.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
With the Nikon high-megapixel camera (D800) being pretty much on par with Canon's newest camera in that price range (5D mk3) in AF and noise performance however, would this new high-megapixel camera keep the rest of this functionality as well? Looking only at Canon's own lineup, I'd expect Canon to build and deliver a high-megapixel but less-AF-burst-focussed camera, but the Nikon would still be the magical merging of those two things. Looking at Canon's competition, I'd expect Canon to offer something worth choosing Canon for.
 
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Ivar said:
I'm not in a hurry to replace my 5D2 but this is the last chance for Canon to stay with Canon. I don't think though I'm willing to wait longer than Photokina.

Ivar what is you message ???????
Last chance for Canon ???????
Who cares !!!!!

There is more to photography then only the DSLR's
What about lenses ?
For me that is a reason to stay with Canon.

Could you please show us some of your pictures?
I really really wonder what kind of photographer you are that the currend DSLR's (Canon and Nikon) are not good enough.

Please show me your skills instead of all this nonsense about equipment...
 
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I have little doubt Canon will release a high MP camera. The question is when. This year? Next year?

I'd personally have bet on next year - but I'm not sure now as they are feeling the pressure from Canon users switching to Nikon.

I'd consider buying one for landscape photography. I don't need it for anything else though.
 
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I agree that the last chance was rather pathetic.

NSFW warning but here you go: http://www.modelmayhem.com/255452

Alker said:
Ivar what is you message ???????
Last chance for Canon ???????
Who cares !!!!!

There is more to photography then only the DSLR's
What about lenses ?
For me that is a reason to stay with Canon.

Could you please show us some of your pictures?
I really really wonder what kind of photographer you are that the currend DSLR's (Canon and Nikon) are not good enough.

Please show me your skills instead of all this nonsense about equipment...
 
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Here we go. We'll probably see new CR1 rumours of a high MP camera until, well, until we actually get one! Like I've posted elsewhere, I just can't see Canon introducing a 30MP+ FF camera with the same IQ as the 5D3 for anywhere near the price of the 5D3, unless they cripple other aspects (pro AF, FPS, build). Could the "entry level FF" everyone seems to be clamouring for - after Canon put the 5D3 just out of reach for cash-strapped enthusiasts - be a 40MP monster with very basic functionality? Unlikely.

I think the key word here is FF. I can see Canon pulling a rabbit out the hat with a 30-40MP 7D II, similar specs to the current 7D, lower high ISO IQ than any of the FF cams, but decent low-to-midrange IQ and best-in-class resolution. That way it doesn't step on any "pro" toes in terms of ultimate IQ/build, and undercuts Nikon's high-res cam by $1000 or more.

Personally I'm happy to wait for a 5D Mk IV with 40MP, an extra stop of juice, and a new DiGiC 6 keeping the FPS up around 6. Hopefully by then 128GB CF/SD cards would have dropped in price to affordable levels, and Intel would have cranked out some CPUs capable of dealing with the 100MB+ RAW file sizes (my head hurts just thinking about it). Until then two 5D3's will do the business, literally.
 
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GL said:
I can see Canon pulling a rabbit out the hat with a 30-40MP 7D II, similar specs to the current 7D, lower high ISO IQ than any of the FF cams, but decent low-to-midrange IQ and best-in-class resolution.

I'd be surprised by that. I don't think the IQ would be very good, and the people who seem to *particularly* want high MP are studio and landscape guys - neither of whom really want a crop camera.

Not saying it won't happen - I'd just be surprised.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Some have suggested the upcoming 4K DSLR will be the high megapixel camera. I don’t believe that to be true, as the high megapixel count is definitely a request of the photographic community, and paying for high end video features is probably not something that would make the segment too happy.

Would these two areas be mutually exclusive? as a layman with little knowledge of the video side of things wouldnt the processing power needed for 4K video also be useful for a high megapixel body retaining decent FPS?

The main conflict between video and stills for me seems like its potentially limating resolution for superior downscaling but unlike the 5D mk3 the number being banded is significantly higher than expectations at 44 MP.

The "anti video" arguement to me really seems to be anger from stills users at bodies being marketed on improved video features rather than the presence of video itself. There does potentially seem to be alot of crossover to me, smaller cinema productions who want 4K also havign a camera that can take promotional stills, areas like wildlife and sports that pushed HD TV hard would also surely like the ability to take high quality stills?

Having 4K video and decent FPS seems like one way a higher priced Canon high MP camera could differentiate itself even more from MF competision.
 
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GL said:
I think the key word here is FF. I can see Canon pulling a rabbit out the hat with a 30-40MP 7D II, similar specs to the current 7D, lower high ISO IQ than any of the FF cams, but decent low-to-midrange IQ and best-in-class resolution. That way it doesn't step on any "pro" toes in terms of ultimate IQ/build, and undercuts Nikon's high-res cam by $1000 or more.

No way that'll ever happen. The 7D's core value is in its APS-C sensor...that will never change. The entire reason people buy the 7D is for the extra reach with pro-grade features. The 7D is already pretty maxed out when it comes to resolution as well with 18mp in an APS-C format. You might gain a bit more by going to 20 or 22mp, but thats going to make it really hard to get sharp shots right down to the pixel level...and you would only be able to do so at a very narrow range of apertures at the center of the lens before diffraction or optical aberrations kill you.
 
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Ivar said:
I agree that the last chance was rather pathetic.

NSFW warning but here you go: http://www.modelmayhem.com/255452

Alker said:
Ivar what is you message ???????
Last chance for Canon ???????
Who cares !!!!!

There is more to photography then only the DSLR's
What about lenses ?
For me that is a reason to stay with Canon.

Could you please show us some of your pictures?
I really really wonder what kind of photographer you are that the currend DSLR's (Canon and Nikon) are not good enough.

Please show me your skills instead of all this nonsense about equipment...

This is my point.
Beautiful pictures with the current equipment ;)
 
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PhilDrinkwater said:
GL said:
I can see Canon pulling a rabbit out the hat with a 30-40MP 7D II, similar specs to the current 7D, lower high ISO IQ than any of the FF cams, but decent low-to-midrange IQ and best-in-class resolution.

I'd be surprised by that. I don't think the IQ would be very good, and the people who seem to *particularly* want high MP are studio and landscape guys - neither of whom really want a crop camera.

Not saying it won't happen - I'd just be surprised.

That does seem to rather go agenst the 7D line being marketed as a sports/wildlife body to me.

I wouldnt be shocked if we saw a spilt in Canon's crop lineup though with the 7D staying at 18 MP with improved ISO and possibly FPS/AF while the 70D and/or 650D push megapixels. A higher megapixel crop body targetting the lower end and a FF body somewhere above the 5D mk3.
 
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They should buy an improved FF version of Sonys 24MP sensor at 54MP.
It should also have crop modes and burst 5FPS at FF and 8FPS in 1.6 crop. Variable step in between.
AF and meetering from 5D3.
Since it will need double Digic the pricetag could be slightly above the current 5D3 level. Perhaps USD 100-200.
5D3 will be cheaper.
 
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I'm interested even though I don't really need a high MP body.

Though I'm waiting to see more reviews of the MkIII, especially interesting is the claim of an un-AA function within DPP. Will it really be un-AAing or just another sharpening tool?
 
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