5D Mark III (or other) Followup

[LetTheRightLensIn]

The battery grip is not integrated, the dented thing under the LCD is the attachment screw between body and grip

I think is integrated

Well, no, it's not. But if you think it's integrated, what do you think that knurled thumbwheel on the grip with "lock" printed next to it will unlock if turned in the direction opposite the arrow?

Of course, the battery grip is integrated and not the battery itself. Therefore it has to be a "lock" there. Its not on the left but in the middle.
Here is on the left:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DMK4/ZBATT-L.JPG
If not ... how do you explain that is no delimitation between the camera itself and the grip?
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=8b9fcb-1327434732.jpg
If this is o battery grip or WIFI or GPS, this was not the main point.
The main poit is that the 5D Mark-s have no (integrated) grip at all.

Because that photo was processed weird. Looking at a better version, you can see that under the overhang it is possible there is a seam, although it seems to be a nicer fit than all the other external grips.
And you wouldn't lock the battery in with that sort of dial there.

 

[well_dunno]

Do we have a better idea on when we will see this camera or is it still 'might be any time from February to Photokina'?..

Anyone with past experience who could take a qualified guess?

Cheers!

 

[oktaydotca]

The grip on this camera is not intregrated. Let's agree on that.
The battery seems to be loaded from the sides though (which is seems to be a new design for 5D or 7D).

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I think the most surprising detail is the lack of a flip-out LCD screen. I would've expected both a 5DIII or a 7DII to have that. If this camera has a strong emphasis on video, wouldn't a flip-out LCD be a great feature for video?

And the 7D currently competes with the 60D because of similar sensor performance. I would expect a 7D successor to have a flip-out LCD to stand tall above the XXD line.

I also think it seems unlikely that they would take away the pop-up flash for a 7D successor. Yes, they are no substitute for an external flashgun but work great for fill-in when traveling light.

I think it hints that it will be every bit as stills oriented as it is video oriented. A really solid all rounder, better than 7D AF, 40D/50D speed+, video at least as good as on the 1DX with a few things that make it easier than the 1DX to use as a video camera perhaps. Only perhaps lacking in effective reach and max detail if it is a 1dX sensor re-use. Then the 5DX2 does it all by adding in the high MP some years down the line.

 

[Craig Richardson]

Apologies if anyone finds that argument too sinister. :

Pun of the day!

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Maybe, maybe ...

On the other hand, I still believe that this is not a 5D Mark III. Is remain the argument that the "focal plane mark" is on the right side and not the left side.
And why would 5D Mark III be tested with a 200-400 lens and a 600 lens (wildlife too)?! This suits better to a really fast focus camera like 7D or something new.

Who says this won't focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I say it is a 7D successor (or 5DIII has now crop abilities). Otherwise why would they test their longest lenses 200-400 and 600mm on a full frame camera?

Did you not noticed that they were also testing those lenses, or at least the 200-400mm, on the 1D X - that's a full frame camera, isn't it?

1DX is dual mode camera no?

I don't think so and what would it matter? It won't magically squeeze 18MP in APS_C size area and get more effective reach. And also note they were using 600mm not 300mm ;D.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I’ve taken really accurate measurements of the distance of the focal plane mark to the LCD screen and I can say with absolute confidence that this is not a film camera…… :

I believe it may, in fact, be a mirror-less 5/8th system.

 

[marius]

Who says this won't focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

Who says this will focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

 

[Craig Richardson]

Who says this won't focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

Who says this will focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

 

[marius]

Apologies if anyone finds that argument too sinister. :

Apologies accepted ;D

 

[oktaydotca]

Usually (not always) in order to show the reach I am thinking they may need to use their crop.
Also since 1DX abandoned the pro crop line ie APS-H I am thinking for London Olympics Canon needs a new crop (a better one than what is in their line up now) to fill the gap?

PS: I want it to be 5DMK3 still (will never buy a crop again after using my 5DC and 5DII)

 

[EYEONE]

Who says this won't focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

Who says this will focus as fast or faster and better than the 7D?

The point is you were argui---

I don't care.

 

[Mooose]

I've ascertained from the picture of the LCD display of the bird that this prototype camera has at least 100MP! This is based on the following assumptions:

1. the LCD has at least a pixel count of the 7D (921,600 pixels) and has approximate dimensions of 1174 x 785 pixels (3:2)
2. the professional Canon photographer is not a pixel peeper (he's not viewing at over 1:1)

My calculations are based on the small box showing that approximately 1/7th- 1/8th of image's narrow edge is being displayed which would put the resolution at least 12327 x 8218 or 101,303,286 total pixels.

 

[well_dunno]

I've ascertained from the picture of the LCD display of the bird that this prototype camera has at least 100MP! This is based on the following assumptions:

1. the LCD has at least a pixel count of the 7D (921,600 pixels) and has approximate dimensions of 1174 x 785 pixels (3:2)
2. the professional Canon photographer is not a pixel peeper (he's not viewing at over 1:1)

My calculations are based on the small box showing that approximately 1/7th- 1/8th of image's narrow edge is being displayed which would put the resolution at least 12327 x 8218 or 101,303,286 total pixels.

lol

 

[nikkito]

The battery grip is not integrated, the dented thing under the LCD is the attachment screw between body and grip

I think is integrated

Well, no, it's not. But if you think it's integrated, what do you think that knurled thumbwheel on the grip with "lock" printed next to it will unlock if turned in the direction opposite the arrow?

That moves the Island.

 

[EYEONE]

The battery grip is not integrated, the dented thing under the LCD is the attachment screw between body and grip

I think is integrated

Well, no, it's not. But if you think it's integrated, what do you think that knurled thumbwheel on the grip with "lock" printed next to it will unlock if turned in the direction opposite the arrow?

That moves the Island.

hahaha, yes! Canon has finally included the frozen donkey wheel!

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

From FM, someone says they were told:

18.1 Megapixel full frame -CMOS-sensor
6.3 fps
100% viewfinder
100,000 pixel RGB AE
iFCL
100-51200 ISO
19 cross type AF-system (with DIGIC 4 co-processor)
Full-HD EOS-movie (1080p)
single DIGIC 5+ processor (and DIGIC 4 co-processor)
3.2 inch Clear View II LCD 1040k dots
mini HDMI
LP-E6 1800mAh
2899$ intro


That sounds entirely reasonably actually. 18MP vs 32MP is a bit of a shame but I guess they need to leave something for the 5DX Mark II in a few years (or maybe a more expensive 5DX+ in a year, same as 5DX but with dual-digic 5+ and 32MP ???).

 

[Edwin Herdman]

Edit - didn't realize the RAW being mentioned was just a 1Ds III RAW. In any case, I think that Canon definitely has changed their stance on leaks - the Canon employee's attitude certainly puts a poke in the eye of sites that are abiding by the NDA, but people get pretty excited by the sight of new lenses, and in this case Canon still has control over the opinions out there, by controlling the facts that can be gathered (previews could signal the lenses and camera are "just okay" or "great, but not worth it in these troubled times," whereas you can't say that with just a picture of the item in action) .

Very interesting times. I wonder if we'll be able to recognize any photos from the Kenya shoot in the upcoming camera manuals?

 

[Loswr]

From FM, someone says they were told:

18.1 Megapixel full frame -CMOS-sensor
6.3 fps
100% viewfinder
100,000 pixel RGB AE
iFCL
100-51200 ISO
19 cross type AF-system (with DIGIC 4 co-processor)
Full-HD EOS-movie (1080p)
single DIGIC 5+ processor (and DIGIC 4 co-processor)
3.2 inch Clear View II LCD 1040k dots
mini HDMI
LP-E6 1800mAh
2899$ intro


That sounds entirely reasonably actually. 18MP vs 32MP is a bit of a shame but I guess they need to leave something for the 5DX Mark II in a few years (or maybe a more expensive 5DX+ in a year, same as 5DX but with dual-digic 5+ and 32MP ???).

My friend Bob's cousin's sister's uncle told a stranger who told my old 3rd grade teacher who told me...

Sorry, I call BS.

100,000 pixel RGB AE
iFCL

The 100,000 pixel RGB AE sensor is a 1D X innovation, which they've named iSA, whereas iFCL refers to the older 63-zone metering system (color and luminance sensitive, not full RGB), found in the 7D. Two generations of metering systems in the same camera? Bob lied. Or maybe my 3rd grade teacher. Someone. BS.