5D Mark III/X Information [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

</strong>Tons of information coming in about possibly the most anticipated camera of 2012 (sorry Nikon).</p>
<p><strong>Announcement date of February 28, 2012?

</strong>I have received lots of emails saying that’ll be the announcement date. I cannot confirm it to 100% certainty, so for now it’s just a guess.</p>
<p><strong>Specs?

</strong>All the same specs are coming in. 22mp, 61pt af, 6.9fps. It could definitely take the spot of the 7D, if the previous rumor is true.</p>
<p><strong>Shipping?

</strong>Late March or early April is the mentioned ship times for the camera. If this is true, there should be real solid leaks coming soon.</p>
<p><strong>Where’s my megapixels?</strong>

A lot of people are wondering why 22mp is it, especially after Nikon announced their 36mp D800 last week. Canon’s Masaya Maeda had some interesting things to say about a large megapixel body.</p>
<blockquote><p>…Regarding how Canon responds to the competition from Nikon’s D800 and the concern of the successor of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon5dmkii" class="pretty-link-keyword">5D Mark II</a>, Maeda indicates that although he cannot leak information about un-announced product, the way Canon develops new product is to satisfy the needs of professional photographers. For instance, the introduction of EOS-1D X is to satisfy professional photographers to photoshoot sports events like the Olympics, in terms of their requirement of high FPS and high image quality under high ISO settings. <strong>If Canon thinks the market wants the high resolution models such as the 30  MP of Nikon’s D800</strong>, <strong>they can easily develop such products…</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The bolded part of the above quote basically translates to, “we have one, give us a bit to tear a D800 apart and make sure ours is better”.</p>
<p><strong>I still want a 5D2!</strong>

There has also been a few suggestions that the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon5dmkii" class="pretty-link-keyword">5D Mark II</a> could remain current, even after a perceived replacement is announced.</p>
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[GL]

"possibly the most anticipated camera of 2012"

God help Canon if they announce a crop 7D MkII in Feb. No amount of focus points or FPS will save them from the wrath of the 5Dx hordes... (myself included)

 

[Picsfor]

with those specs quoted - if it also came with dual cf card slots, then i'd an extremely happy bunny and my pre-order is being submitted. Even more so if it has that nice battery grip

As said, i', more than happy with 21mp and could happily drop back to 18mp - but i'd accept the slight increase if it pleased the video brigade and mp brigade.

If the 5D2 is going t be left on the market, might i suggest that Canon will knock its price down to that of the 7D or make it a replacement for the 60D? Blimey, wouldn't that upset the Nikon and Sony apple cart - having to compete with a 5D2 as an intro camera - or move up from your budget DSLR?

3 years old, but still providing IQ that must budget or mid price DSLR cameras aspire to!

 

[RSBJ]

Wow Canon, give us a much improved auto-focus system, and you really are listening. Can't say I would spec my ideal 5DII replacement much differently than that.

Highest on my wish-list was for better dynamic range, we'll have to see how much that improves on the 5DIII or 1DX. Exciting times.

Disregard AF comment, not quite awake yet I suppose! Wow, what a camera; assuming it's around $3k.

 

[Astro]

If the 5D2 is going t be left on the market, might i suggest that Canon will knock its price down to that of the 7D or make it a replacement for the 60D?

and it would be no big step.

7D ~1200-1300 euro
5D MK2 ~1750 euro

im all for it!!

 

[NoWii]

I hope this rumor is true.
Once again, we'll get a great professional FF camera with superb video (as mpix count suggest). Looks like a solid and not suprising replacement for 5DmkII. It just got upgraded in al the aspects, with no change of aim.
This will fill the hole in canons lineup (between 5dmkii and 1dx). And the 5DmkII becomes that affordable FF camera, we all wanted.

The only thing missing is a high megapixel camera. There it is a question, if canon will even bother to make it. But I don't think that Canon will leave Nikon alone in this segment, no matter how small it is. Maybe the "cinema" DSLR will have a high Mpix count and low high iso performance (which would seperate it from c300). And cinema lenses are supposed to have like "super high" resolution (perfect for high mpix sensor).
Who knows..

 

[Woody]

Canon's comment is not a surprise. They have already showcased their 100 MP APS-H sensor. On the other hand, if Canon does NOT think the pros want high pixel count cameras, then....

 

[DzPhotography]

Hmmm, a 1 DX + this new 5D....

 

[Mr.Magic]

At the moment I'm still thinking these specs are listed once somewhere and everyone one is repeating it, because it is so good, and almost everyone will be happy with it.

On the other hand, the nikon d800 specs were also always the same, and it appeared to be true. So where is the point of saying 'as from now these specs look really believeable instead of a probably wishlist'.... I don't know
Canon being a conservative company let's me think the wishlist, Canon needing to produce a model that will be relevant for the next 3-4 years let' me think the other way I'm just hoping this could be true, and we'll have to see then

 

[D.Sim]

<strong>If Canon thinks the market wants the high resolution models such as the 30 MP of Nikon’s D800</strong>, <strong>they can easily develop such products…</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The bolded part of the above quote basically translates to, “we have one, give us a bit to tear a D800 apart and make sure ours is better”.</p>

I love that...

 

[JR]

I love those specs and I love where the new mkIII seem to be headed! As for the high MP body, I would bet Canon is much more advanced in their development then they led us to beleive in official statements. In fact, I bet you it is ready and right now they are playing their marketing game like they want.

The 5DX spec we saw a few days ago here would likely be a Nikon killer...we'll see.

 

[DzPhotography]

I love those specs and I love where the new mkIII seem to be headed! As for the high MP body, I would bet Canon is much more advanced in their development then they led us to beleive in official statements. In fact, I bet you it is ready and right now they are playing their marketing game like they want.

The 5DX spec we saw a few days ago here would likely be a Nikon killer...we'll see.

I agree, Canon probably just wants to make sure theirs is better as the Admin stated

 

[Picsfor]

At the moment I'm still thinking these specs are listed once somewhere and everyone one is repeating it, because it is so good, and almost everyone will be happy with it.

On the other hand, the nikon d800 specs were also always the same, and it appeared to be true. So where is the point of saying 'as from now these specs look really believeable instead of a probably wishlist'.... I don't know
Canon being a conservative company let's me think the wishlist, Canon needing to produce a model that will be relevant for the next 3-4 years let' me think the other way I'm just hoping this could be true, and we'll have to see then

All that you've said is true and valid, right up until the appearance of the 1DX. Now i'm not so sure.

I have a feeling Canon has been doing a serious amount of home-work, and may have just got the strategies right.

All Canon using pro's are feeling rather smug about the 1DX when compared to the D4.

With the release of the D800, Nikon still haven't produced anything to match the 5D2.

If Canon release a 5D3/x with the specs announced - Canon may well mop up a whole load of Nikon D700 users who just wanted a 16/18mp version of the D700 and some improvement in DR and ISO.

The MP brigade have been given a hint that their much desired camera may well still appear in a fashion that will give the D800 serious competition. May personal view is that Canon have probably been working on this MP beast for longer than Nikon and have just sat and waited to see what the response is from people.

The world of Canon comes across to me as a changing world. They got a real kicking with the 1D3, and the initial black dot on the 5D2 and a few other various issues - i think they've looked at what they got wrong and have put it right.

 

[wockawocka]

Despite ordering 2 x 1Dx's I would love the replacement 5D3 to mean I don't have to get them.

Not from the money front but the weight. The 5D2 was a lovely camera but the lack of shutter, aperture and iso limits along with the poor AF was a deal breaker for me.

 

[Orion]

The bolded part of the above quote basically translates to, “we have one, give us a bit to tear a D800 apart and make sure ours is better”.

Well if that mentality is true, then they could've have started at ISO and AF . . . . "easily."

 

[DzPhotography]

All Canon using pro's are feeling rather smug about the 1DX when compared to the D4.

where did you get that idea/info?

 

[Orangutan]

The quote from Maeda certainly looks like Canon is playing the role of the front-runner. Apparently, they've got a bunch of tech and several prototypes, and were just waiting for Nikon to tip their hand so they can one-up them. Now, before everyone gets too excited, as I said in a previous post, Canon will not put all of their best tech in these cameras: they will do just enough to take a clear edge, and then profit from the next cycle as well.

 

[torger]

I guess I'll stay with the 5D mark II then. Speed and AF is nice, but in those cases I almost always want more reach and use APS-C instead (7D). What I really desire is substantial sensor improvements at ISO100, and that is probably not going to happen.

It seems to me that the 5Dmk3 may be a mild evolved version, do as little as possible to please as many as possible, but no bold features. ISO performance will certainly be worse than 1DX, but will it be better than 5Dmk2? They don't need to make it better. Improving the AF is the only thing they really need to do, and then add some speed to differentiate from the competition.

 

[psolberg]

The bolded part of the above quote basically translates to, “we have one, give us a bit to tear a D800 apart and make sure ours is better”.

I don't think that's what he is saying at all. He is simply saying exactly what every other camera company is saying: if we think there is demand for it, we'll make one. However by the time that gets made if it is not already in development, it could be several years before it shows up. For instance, canon knew there was demand for a D700 fast fps camera competitor. how long did it take to make one? still waiting.

Let's put the fan cap down and put the thinking cap on. Canon is betting that their audience will be ok with 22MP just like nikon used to bet that their audience would be happy with 12. They think there will be some benefits that will make the product appealing just like nikon knows there are some benefits that will make theirs appealing.

I'm sure both companies are looking at each other and reasize they totally missjudged where the other was going to go. And off course both are capable of easily releasing models to trump each other again. Nikon could just as easly top the 5DIII with a D800s as canon could top the D800 with a 5DX. However expecting either one next month is just silly.

The interesting thing about a 22MP 5DIII is that once again the budget full frame is divided by two completely opposite camera models that essentially swapped places compared to the last generation. Nikon is now big MP game and a landscape/studio dream, canon is now fast fps game which should keep a lot of action/sports guys happy.

The quote from Maeda certainly looks like Canon is playing the role of the front-runner. Apparently, they've got a bunch of tech and several prototypes, and were just waiting for Nikon to tip their hand so they can one-up them. Now, before everyone gets too excited, as I said in a previous post, Canon will not put all of their best tech in these cameras: they will do just enough to take a clear edge, and then profit from the next cycle as well.

First of all, corporate guys talk like that. It's their job even if they have nothing in the drawing board. Nikon and others do this as well. as a matter of fact, several prototypes are the norm. Neither nikon nor canon can't create something the other can't match or surpass once the specs are known. It's the leap frog game and canon has gotten leapfrogged just as many time as nikon. Bring a phased out prototype to market is much more complicated. Both canon/nikon realized the other's position likely months ago but in the dev cycle and the big picture their bets are set. I think both are making good moves. However, their responses to the current models won't be seen for years.

 

[Neeneko]

the way Canon develops new product is to satisfy the needs of professional photographers. For instance, the introduction of EOS-1D X is to satisfy professional photographers to photoshoot sports events like the Olympics, in terms of their requirement of high FPS and high image quality under high ISO settings.

I find this comment confusing.. if their 'way' is to develop products for professional photographers.. why are they making video cameras in SLR form? It really feels like videoographers, at minimal, share equal weight.. at this point probably more.