5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I can't believe the FPS or AF.

If they had said 5-ish fps, and 45 point AF; that I could have believed.

100% agree....the frame rate and AF points are not to be believed, not combined with 22 Mpix at a $2700 price tag. It spits all over the 1Dx's market positioning if that's the actual specs, and this isn't going to be a full frame 7D either, at least not from a frame-rate and AF speed standpoint.

I'd be inclined to believe 5 fps, 19 AF pts, at 22 Mpix full frame, and native ISO to 25,600, expanded to 102,400. Add a wi-fi option for 802.11N and many wedding/studio folks will be happy.

5fps, 19AF 7D AF, 22MP FF would get spit all over by D800 though I think.
If they didn't get a high MP sensor ready then I think it needs the specs listed on this rumor, otherwise forget it.

D800 isn't an Apples to Apples....the rumored specs for the D800 (per Nikon Rumors) has that camera at 36Mpix and 4 fps, and said to be $4000.

and 6fps per second with grip in 16MP Nikon APS-C mode though and their best AF.
I suppose the $1300 difference isn't something to ignore though by any means.

 

[stoneysnapper]

Any possibility the announcement date will coincide with Focus on Imaging which is the biggest Photographic show in the UK and one of the biggest in Europe? Just a thought....

http://www.focus-on-imaging.co.uk/home.htm

 

[K-amps]

I'll say it again. Even if 5D3 would come with 12 fps like de 1D X they know how to protect their nr.1 They learned a lesson from 1Ds.

I've said that myself, too. But I'm also considering a different viewpoint - you said it: they learned a lesson from the 1DsIII. When they released the original 5D, it was spec'd substantially lower than the then-current 1DsII, and the 5D sold well. When they released the 5DII, it was spec'd lower than the 1DsIII but used the same sensor, and it sold like f'ing gangbusters. Maybe the lesson they learned from the 1DsIII was to not bother protecting their #1, because a wildly popular 5-series is a cash cow. It could be argued that Canon is already throwing #1 under the bus - they had two 1-series bodies to meet the needs of different market segments, then they merged those two into the 1D X, knowing it would not satisfy both previous markets.

+1 John: The 1Dx is a Halo product. It provides exclusivity to the Canon DSLR line. It contributes little in terms of Sales volumes, but creates volumes of sales for the other bodies in the line-up.

 

[DJL329]

Lens wise, I hope it arrives with:
24-105/4L IS II (or 24-120/4L IS to match Nikon) for which there were rumors about a year ago that it would arrive with the 5D3
24-70/2.8L II (or IS, or better yet both ways like the 70-200s are) for which there have been endless rumors for MANY years
100-400L II (unlikely) for which there have been space rumors, but I would really like to see get a refresh (mostly coatings and 4-stop IS, perhaps a more traditional twisty zoom)

I would love to see a new 24-105 as well but I think the third lens in the mix might be the 35mm 1.4L II instead...

I would be happy with a 50mm 1.4 II

+1 It would be nice to have a new 50mm f/1.4 as a kit lens option for the EOS 25th Anniversary.

 

[DJL329]

Not everyone starts off at the bottom, there are also rich people who want toys with impressive spec sheets!

Sure...but I doubt they make a significant fraction of the demographic. Still, I always wondered what he did with the reward money from the Rebel Alliance...

He probably bought a certain Protocol Droid -- so he could destroy it!

 

[Picsfor]

Any possibility the announcement date will coincide with Focus on Imaging which is the biggest Photographic show in the UK and one of the biggest in Europe? Just a thought....

http://www.focus-on-imaging.co.uk/home.htm

If you look at the Canon web site - there stars for this years Focus are the 1DX, where i believe we can actually put a CF card in and take home some pics, and the star of the last 3 years - the 5D2 - yep, you read it right, the 5D2.

So, unless they have a secret they're gonna reveal at the last minute, don't get excited :-\

 

[pedro]

Seems like I am a bit late to the party...If this IS the next 5D...I am in. I would be happy with very fine ISO 51200 as highest extension. As I am currently shooting a 30D: Are ISO 12800 equivalent to my 30Ds ISO 1600 likely to get? Or is that wishful thinking?

 

[vuilang]

Will canon release 1DX and 5DX the same year?

 

[K-amps]

Will canon release 1DX and 5DX the same year?

Yes they want to find out early if the 5 steals sales from the 1.

 

[briansquibb]

Why so many studio photog haters?

I picked up a used 1Ds3 and was very pleasantly surprised to find out how much better than a 5D2 it is for everyday photography - 5fps, 45 point AF, twin cards, twin processor and color tones that are so good you could die for them. If this is what Canon produces as a studio camera I look forward to the next one as an everday walkabout upgrade

 

[unfocused]

Nikon Rumors is reporting that Sony will soon announce a 24mp APS-C Sensor which is likely to become the foundation for the next generation of the D300.

That got me thinking, will Canon continue to up the ante in the megapixel war, or will they, at some point, decide to shift strategies and open up a new front (increased dynamic range, improved high ISO, superior noise control)?

Certainly, they have the technology and expertise to keep increasing the megapixel count, but I wonder if they might decide that a more modest increase (say 22mp) in the next generation of APS-C sensors, coupled with an extra stop or two of speed and improved image quality might be more advantageous...

...I have tremendous respect for Canon's market savvy and I wonder if they might decide that they can really shake things up and gain a competitive advantage by taking the market in a totally new and unexpected direction.

Hmm...I'm starting to feel pretty smart.

(Okay, I was talking about APS-C, but it seems as though Canon is headed in this direction.)

Honestly though, until the 1Dx, I would have never expected them to change course so swiftly. If the 5D rumors are true, I can't wait to see what they do with the 7DII.

 

[Picsfor]

Seems like I am a bit late to the party...If this IS the next 5D...I am in. I would be happy with very fine ISO 51200 as highest extension. As I am currently shooting a 30D: Are ISO 12800 equivalent to my 30Ds ISO 1600 likely to get? Or is that wishful thinking?

From my experience, the 5D2 on 12800 pretty much equals the 30D at iso 1600 already!
Just looked at some shots of badgers shot during the dark - 5D2 definitely better, and 25600 not too far off the 3200 iso mark.

So, if you're hoping for better off a 5D3/X - i think that's almost a cert...

 

[wickidwombat]

my dreams are coming true!
Pro build non gripped bodies with proper AF

 

[JR]

my dreams are coming true!
Pro build non gripped bodies with proper AF

I think it is safe to say this is a dream many of us are having! 8) 8) 8)

 

[Stone]

I think I'm just gonna stop wishing for a baby 1DX and get the real thing. A 1DX will last me far longer than a 5D or 7D upgrade and I can keep carrying 1 body instead of 2 to get everything I want. I guess this is Canon's master plan in the end anyways. The more I think about it the more I'm sure Canon is going to limit both the new 5D and 7D models in some relevant way....

 

[sublime LightWorks]

I can't believe the FPS or AF.

If they had said 5-ish fps, and 45 point AF; that I could have believed.

100% agree....the frame rate and AF points are not to be believed, not combined with 22 Mpix at a $2700 price tag. It spits all over the 1Dx's market positioning if that's the actual specs, and this isn't going to be a full frame 7D either, at least not from a frame-rate and AF speed standpoint.

I'd be inclined to believe 5 fps, 19 AF pts, at 22 Mpix full frame, and native ISO to 25,600, expanded to 102,400. Add a wi-fi option for 802.11N and many wedding/studio folks will be happy.

5fps, 19AF 7D AF, 22MP FF would get spit all over by D800 though I think.
If they didn't get a high MP sensor ready then I think it needs the specs listed on this rumor, otherwise forget it.

D800 isn't an Apples to Apples....the rumored specs for the D800 (per Nikon Rumors) has that camera at 36Mpix and 4 fps, and said to be $4000.

and 6fps per second with grip in 16MP Nikon APS-C mode though and their best AF.
I suppose the $1300 difference isn't something to ignore though by any means.

Exactly......the comparison flexes, you could look at the D800 (assuming the latest specs hold) as a 36mpx FF, 4fps camera or a 16mpx crop, 6fps camera at $4k (plus $$$ for the grip to get the faster fps mode)....compared to the specs given here.

So...let's say the 5D3 is really 22mpx, 5fps, with 19 AF points in a system that is better than the 7D but weaker than the full blown 1Dx, with ISO a stop better than the 5D2 (remember the 1Dx's ISO performance and it's a 16mpx FF).....price as stated $2700.

Is that a better deal than a D800 at $4000??? To me it is. It surpasses my 5D2 and my 7D, at a price $200 more than what my 5D2 cost me, and I don't have to sell my lenses or speedlights. I've invested in the system and it's the system I own, not just the body. You have to consider that and the total cost of ownership, with respect to it's performance.

Now, if it turns out the rumored specs of 22mpx, 7+fps, and 61 AF points for $2700 is correct, you won't hear me complain. I can just about ditch my 7D and get two of these bad boys, but I'd keep the 7D for one reason....1.6x crop reach. There are times when I need that in sports work and while I have 9 L lenses, I don't have the cash to dump $7k on a 300mm f/2.8 IS II L....and I don't have to when I can shoot the 7D with my 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II L and get a 320mm effective reach. BTW, if you have not tried this lens with the 1.4x rev 3 extender, you seriously are missing out on some excellent quality images with an effective reach of nearly 450mm @ f/4.

 

[CatfishSoupFTW]

it would be amazing to have 6.9 FPS on a FF body, plus all those AF points etc. all it needs now is a pop up flash. because sometimes those do save me. but im sure the noise would be too good to even need it XD for 2700. damn. ima line up right now! haha it for sure mixes in what i would always want for a good price. i

ts like the 7D and 5DII made love and had babies.

 

[Ed_5D]

I've been told this is a 7D mark II and it is indeed a full frame camera, it will go up in price close or beyond where de 5D was.. around $3k.. this camera will replace the 5D as a digital cinema SLR.. The 5D mark III will be aimed at still photography again, no priority on video features but it seems canon will finally put in a professional autofocus system, 1D style or 7D style autofocus remains to be seen.

I'd say CR2.5

 

[Ricku]

I've been told this is a 7D mark II and it is indeed a full frame camera, it will go up in price close or beyond where de 5D was.. around $3k.. this camera will replace the 5D as a digital cinema SLR.. The 5D mark III will be aimed at still photography again, no priority on video features but it seems canon will finally put in a professional autofocus system, 1D style or 7D style autofocus remains to be seen.

I'd say CR2.5

I like the sound of this, but releasing 7D2 before 5D2 does not make any sense.

The 5D2 is quite older than the 7D.

People are screaming right now for a 5D3, not a 7D2.

 

[kpk1]

The 3D and 9D items aren't used. 8)

1,3,5D are FF and 7,9D are APS-C, sooner maybe APS-H with APS-C mount.

What do you say about this line-up:
1D the extreme sport shooter
3D a limited 1D without grip
3Ds a limited 1D without a grip but with the highest megapixel sensor.
5D a simple body as you know it already
5Ds a simple body like 5D but with the highest megapixel sensor.

7D an advanced body in all aspects with APS-H with EF EF-S mount and built in crop factor.
7Ds the same advanced body with the highest megapixel sensor.

Now depending on the strategy they'll choose 3 FF bodies and 1 crop.
Isn't that great?!