5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>5D X / 5D Mark III

</strong>The last week has been insane for rumors. I have had more than 150 “tips” sent in and going through them all has been lots of fun. The variance in information is wider than I’ve ever seen it previously.</p>
<p><strong>More stuff

</strong>Below is a spec list I received last week. It goes along with various other sources in regards to release date and specs.</p>
<ul>
<li>5D X</li>
<li>22 mp</li>
<li>61pt AF with DIGIC 4</li>
<li>6.9 FPS</li>
<li>DIGIC 5 (Doesn’t say DIGIC 5 )</li>
<li>Announcement February 28</li>
<li>  with 3 lens</li>
<li>Available April $2700</li>
</ul>
<p>With Nikon announcing on February 7, 2012, and most thinking it’ll be the D800. I expect some kind of a camera to be announced by Canon within a month. If they can get these things shipping by April, a lot of wedding photographers will be happy.</p>
<p>We’ve seen one <a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d3.html">report about an October ship date</a> for the 5D Mark III. If it’s not the 5DX/Mark III coming in the next month or so, then something else will be.</p>
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[K-amps]

If this happens, I will be jumping all over this. ;D ;D ;D (and Canon I will forgive you for making us wait this long!)

 

[AprilForever]

If they kill the 7D mk II, they will have my limitless rage! :'( Or sorrow.

Seriously though, they had better not kill the 7D line off!

 

[bchernicoff]

This would be basically everything I have wanted since owning both the 5D Mk II and the 7D and deciding which to keep.

 

[CrimsonBlue]

1DX killer?

I would LOVE to be wrong, but how could this camera be real? What differentiates it from the 1DX? (ie. is there $4100 in difference?)

61pt AF? Smells like a 1DX
6.9FPS? Pretty powerful to pump 22MP through on just a Digic 5
$2700? Why would I ever pay $6800 for a 1DX aside from [arguably] a little ISO help on the top end?

 

[outsider]

These rumored specs seems too good to be true for $2700 (like others have said), considering that things like AF is the same as the 1Dx (more then twice the price) and pretty high frame rate.

And speaking of frame rate, the 1Dx uses 2 Digic 5+ processors. At 12 fps at 18MP= 216MP/sec. Scaling that to a 22 MP sensor, Dual Digic 5+ would be able to move 22MP at nearly 10fts.
One Digic 5+ would maybe do 5fts at 22MP??

So unless the 5d mk3/mkx has dual Digic 5+, I don't see how it can do 6.9fps.
On a single Digic 5+ CPU I can believe anything roughly under 5fps

I am assuming that the 12fps the 1Dx does is limited by data throughput, but the limitation could be mechanical (mirror movement), in which case the upper limit of throughput is below 12fps at 18MP, otherwise Canon would have used just one in the 1Dx.

 

[nvsravank]

If this is true i am going to be preordering it!

 

[AprilForever]

These rumored specs seems too good to be true for $2700 (like others have said), considering that things like AF is the same as the 1Dx (more then twice the price) and pretty high frame rate.

And speaking of frame rate, the 1Dx uses 2 Digic 5+ processors. At 12 fps at 18MP= 216MP/sec. Scaling that to a 22 MP sensor, Dual Digic 5+ would be able to move 22MP at nearly 10fts.
One Digic 5+ would maybe do 5fts at 22MP??

So unless the 5d mk3/mkx has dual Digic 5+, I don't see how it can do 6.9fps.
On a single Digic 5+ CPU I can believe anything roughly under 5fps

I am assuming that the 12fps the 1Dx does is limited by data throughput, but the limitation could be mechanical (mirror movement), in which case the upper limit of throughput is below 12fps at 18MP, otherwise Canon would have used just one in the 1Dx.

Indeed! It may be a little early, but I am going to call shenanigans on this rumor.

 

[bvukich]

I can't believe the FPS or AF.

If they had said 5-ish fps, and 45 point AF; that I could have believed.

 

[Justin]

The rumored specs look good enough. Really wish I was getting a mpx jump. But if this camera is basically just a baby 1Dx then I am sold. Weather seals, AF, and fps: basically the 7Difying of the 5D2. At $2700, seems fair.

What concerns me is what lurks behind this camera. I will be migthy mad if I buy this and then Canon later in the year releases their version fo the camera I really want: the Nikon D800.

3+ lenses has me intrigued, unless of course those lenses are the 200-400, 500, and 600 super teles. In which case we'll all hit snooze.

 

[awinphoto]

Not to be a hater, but I think this sounds more like a wish list... my wish list.. =) IF it's true, I'll be ordering mine asap... if not than i'll go sulk in my room.

 

[Mappy]

And speaking of frame rate, the 1Dx uses 2 Digic 5+ processors. At 12 fps at 18MP= 216MP/sec. Scaling that to a 22 MP sensor, Dual Digic 5+ would be able to move 22MP at nearly 10fts.
One Digic 5+ would maybe do 5fts at 22MP??

So unless the 5d mk3/mkx has dual Digic 5+, I don't see how it can do 6.9fps.
On a single Digic 5+ CPU I can believe anything roughly under 5fps

Another hypothetical option to get the math working might be dual Digic5 instead of single/dual Digic5+.

 

[CJRodgers]

What would $2700 be in £GBP. I dont mean a straight conversion, I mean that here in the U.K we normally pay a bit more than just the conversion rate for our gear.

 

[BlueMixWhite]

To make this happen, I will purchase the mk2 tomorrow. :

 

[Z]

•Announcement February 28

If I were in marketing, I'd announce on February 29th to signify the leap forward in technology.

 

[Loswr]

I would LOVE to be wrong, but how could this camera be real? What differentiates it from the 1DX? (ie. is there $4100 in difference?)

Not to be a hater, but I think this sounds more like a wish list... my wish list.. =) IF it's true, I'll be ordering mine asap... if not than i'll go sulk in my room.

+1 on these. It's a nice wish list. Wishes don't often come true. But Canon's goal is to make money, total profit is what matters, not profit per camera line. This may represent a strategic shift - combine the 1-series lines to a single body to reduce R&D costs, put top technology in an 'affordable' camera that to the casual eye looks a LOT like the top of the line pro camera, which boosts sales of that 5-series model (a great price for a baby 1D X), and the unit sales of the 5-series more than makes up for lost sales on the 1D X.

 

[KT]

Re: 1DX killer?

I would LOVE to be wrong, but how could this camera be real? What differentiates it from the 1DX? (ie. is there $4100 in difference?)

61pt AF? Smells like a 1DX
6.9FPS? Pretty powerful to pump 22MP through on just a Digic 5
$2700? Why would I ever pay $6800 for a 1DX aside from [arguably] a little ISO help on the top end?

I can totally understand why most folks on this forum are skeptical about such a camera at this price but remember what people thought of the 5D mark II when it first came out? It was basically a small replica of the 1Ds mark III (selling for $8000 at the time) offered at $2700, OK so the AF of the mark II sucked but you got the video functionality instead and this was a fair trade. Of course the mark II all but killed the 1Ds III sales by selling for 1/3 of the 1Ds III price. So who knows, maybe they will do the same again and offer the 5D X for less than 1/2 the price of the 1D X with comparable functionality. Maybe they need to sell large number of the 61 point AF module to make production profitable and that's the only way to sell that many units.

 

[funkboy]

We’ve seen one report about an October ship date for the 5D Mark III. If it’s not the 5DX/Mark III coming in the next month or so, then something else will be.

Sounds like a 7D replacement to me...

 

[yunusoglu]

If these specs are true, then it seems that there won't be anything coming from Canon aimed straight at studio photographers... I guess, they'll finally make me sell my car for a MF camera...

 

[EYEONE]

If they kill the 7D mk II, they will have my limitless rage! :'( Or sorrow.

Seriously though, they had better not kill the 7D line off!

I'm confused as to why you think they would kill the the 7D line

And speaking of frame rate, the 1Dx uses 2 Digic 5+ processors. At 12 fps at 18MP= 216MP/sec. Scaling that to a 22 MP sensor, Dual Digic 5+ would be able to move 22MP at nearly 10fts.
One Digic 5+ would maybe do 5fts at 22MP??

So unless the 5d mk3/mkx has dual Digic 5+, I don't see how it can do 6.9fps.
On a single Digic 5+ CPU I can believe anything roughly under 5fps

Another hypothetical option to get the math working might be dual Digic5 instead of single/dual Digic5+.

When it comes to computing there seems to be some diminishing returns when you add processing power. If dual Digic5+ can push 22mp at 10fps it doesn't exactly mean that a single Digic5+ would push 5fps. The math doesn't always work out.

Also, there are other limiting factors besides processing power. Take the shutter for example. Who is to say that the 1Dx 12fps was limited by the processors? It could have been the shutter and mirror or the AF system that couldn't keep up. According to the math the 7D should be able to do 9fps to match the same mp/sec that the 1DIV handles but it doesn't.

There is also the issue of how long it could do 6.9fps before slowing up. It could make the trade off of more FPS for smaller bursts.