5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
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pedro said:
Hard to say. Maybe the people at Canon will be good enough to start leaking some official photos taken with the 5D3 at high ISO.
As for the pricing on the D4 @ $6000 US/$6300 CAD...that's confirmed. It's the price on shop websites. Which in time will of course drop...how long that will take? Will have to just wait and see.
D800 pricing? Rumours. Since it's not available for pre-order. Hasn't even been announced yet. But should be next week.
I think the asking price for the 2 versions of the D800 are ridiculous. It's more than a few hundred $. It's more like a $500-1400 increase over the D700!!
Having said that...if the rumoured specs are spot on (from NR)...I'm not ordering one. I want a FF body with good native ISO range. Something the D800 doesn't have. Looks like a "studio camera" based on the specs. Something I'm not looking for. Which is why I'm putting my money on the 5D3 (assuming the latest rumoured specs are correct). If not...this is going to get expensive (but still worth it)...And about the plausiblity of seeing the 1D-X's 61-pt AF in the 5D3...I think it's very possible. If not...then maybe an AF system based on the 7D's design but with more points/cross-pts. Maybe 21. 45...
FPS? I'd be happy with 5.
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JR said:
Looks like there is a bid of difference across the country. http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03836/Nikon-D4-price.html
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Lets not forget also that there is a huge difference between the announced RRP and Street pricing.
Look at the C300. When i was first announced it was listed as $20,000 USD, then pre orders were listed as $15,999USD. Thats already a massive drop.
Once its been around for a few months we could see them selling for as low as $14,000USD.
The point being these prices we are seeing listed in rumours, we don't know if they are actual street price, RRP or the writer pulled the figure out of a unicorns ass.
Once the cameras are out there in peoples hands is when I'm going to start shopping around for the best price, until then ill just use these prices as a rough guide on how much my wallet is going to suffer.
Look at the C300. When i was first announced it was listed as $20,000 USD, then pre orders were listed as $15,999USD. Thats already a massive drop.
Once its been around for a few months we could see them selling for as low as $14,000USD.
The point being these prices we are seeing listed in rumours, we don't know if they are actual street price, RRP or the writer pulled the figure out of a unicorns ass.
Once the cameras are out there in peoples hands is when I'm going to start shopping around for the best price, until then ill just use these prices as a rough guide on how much my wallet is going to suffer.
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From my 3 main camera shops. Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca/marketing/procentre/nikon/slrcameras.aspx), Henry's (http://www.henrys.com/67447-NIKON-D4-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx) and Aden Camera (http://www.adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=3897&Category=6). That's the current Toronto price. What is your local shop?
That's not right. Montrealers are already getting a $300 discount from the start. I wonder if my local stores will price match a store in Montreal. At least the 1D-X is the same in both cities. $6999.99
Ok back to the topic of this thread the 5D3 (or is it 5D-X? HEH!)...
That's not right. Montrealers are already getting a $300 discount from the start.
I wonder if my local stores will price match a store in Montreal. At least the 1D-X is the same in both cities. $6999.99Ok back to the topic of this thread the 5D3 (or is it 5D-X? HEH!)...
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If budget allows, i would happily get a 1DX, but then i've always shot with a battery grip, so a built in grip would be a bonus.
There is much about the 1Dx that i like, where as none of the other 1D series ever done any thing for me. I would have been buying them for the hell of it. The 1DsIII offered nothing over the 5D2 with BG - except twice the price and improved AF (ok that is my main gripe with 5D2), and i never really quite got into the APS-H crop.
But if a baby 1DX gets released, then its a no brainer.
How about this for a curved ball?
What if Canon were to release the 1DX with a price of $4000 (£3000) - how many would they sell then? Would they get killed in the rush? Would Nikon just be dead in the water?
How many of us would stretch to that figure for a 1Dx then?
There is much about the 1Dx that i like, where as none of the other 1D series ever done any thing for me. I would have been buying them for the hell of it. The 1DsIII offered nothing over the 5D2 with BG - except twice the price and improved AF (ok that is my main gripe with 5D2), and i never really quite got into the APS-H crop.
But if a baby 1DX gets released, then its a no brainer.
How about this for a curved ball?
What if Canon were to release the 1DX with a price of $4000 (£3000) - how many would they sell then? Would they get killed in the rush? Would Nikon just be dead in the water?
How many of us would stretch to that figure for a 1Dx then?
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And i would happily trade in my almost unused 5D2, and main 5D2, with my L lenses lenses to get a couple.
I'm not averse to working with a 50mm f1.8 on one body and a 100mm f2.8 macro on the other whilst i saved up for the lenses.
Why would i trade in my L lenses as well?
Simple, i started in photography when an SLR was supplied with a 50mm f1.8 as a standard lens, and i still think it's a great lens to learn all about a camera with. The 100mm macro gives me some insect hunting opportunities at Kew Gardens etc..., and means the body just doesn't sit in the bag.
I'm not averse to working with a 50mm f1.8 on one body and a 100mm f2.8 macro on the other whilst i saved up for the lenses.
Why would i trade in my L lenses as well?
Simple, i started in photography when an SLR was supplied with a 50mm f1.8 as a standard lens, and i still think it's a great lens to learn all about a camera with. The 100mm macro gives me some insect hunting opportunities at Kew Gardens etc..., and means the body just doesn't sit in the bag.
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I agree with K-amps. There comes a point when spending $4000 on a 5D3 is not worth it (or the Nikon D800). The "law of diminishing returns" kicks in. On the other hand the rumoured asking price for the 5D3 is just under $2800. Which is fine with me as I've said.
If the 5D3 is sold for near 4k (like the D800 w/o AA...and does not have the features we want) we might as well save up a little longer and just go for the 1D-X (or D3s or D4).
Though I do prefer the camera body size of a 5D3 over the 1D-X. Given the choice. Weight does matter to me. Who wants to carry around a 3-4 pound camera body plus maybe a 3 pound lens all day? (given the choice)
If the 5D3 is sold for near 4k (like the D800 w/o AA...and does not have the features we want) we might as well save up a little longer and just go for the 1D-X (or D3s or D4).
Though I do prefer the camera body size of a 5D3 over the 1D-X. Given the choice. Weight does matter to me. Who wants to carry around a 3-4 pound camera body plus maybe a 3 pound lens all day? (given the choice)
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If the general consensus of posters on this thread reflects current/future market for 5D and Canon responds to that with the specs set out at the beginning of the thread, then I feel that those of us who bought into the concept of the 5D as maximising image quality at a reasonable price by not having 7D/1D type features (which I don't need) have been passed by. Having had Canon SLRs since 1976 (as well as medium format film) I would now think the Nikon D800 more relevant. Pity the Zeiss lenses don't have interchangeable ZE/ZF.2 mounts like the old Tamron adaptall.
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Quite possibly in the very near future all of these conjectures will be moot. At that point I'd love to do a tally from those that contributed to this thread to see who was the most clairvoyant of the group. This group or individual shall be named the official CanonRumors.com Fortune Teller. On the other hand, I will refrain from speculating at this point, bow out on the up and coming moniker and merely watch and wait with drool and anticipation for the 5D Mkii replacement...whatever it's name and features shall be.
PS "anyone got a bib" ?
PS "anyone got a bib" ?
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revup67 said:
Also perhaps this year (as some part of last year) Canon began reacting to Nikon instead of leading the market as it did 3 years prior to that. So whatever the proposed feature set of the 5D3 would be; I think they will be subject to scramble and rejigging based on the announcement of the D800.
Sorry to see Canon in the position, would like to seem them back at throwing the gauntlet and letting Nikon scramble instead.
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AH! Looks like the Nikon D800 will be 36MP! Just posted to NR and Engadget.
Hope Canon goes for the same. Would love more resolution for bigger prints.
Hope Canon goes for the same. Would love more resolution for bigger prints.
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