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60D Flip Screen Saga [CR2]

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#21
I don't see the value of having a flip screen unless it provides something that the current LCD cannot, such as touch display.
My camcorder has a flip screen that is touch sensitive and allows me to selectively set the exposure. This might be a cool feature for the 60D. Having the ability to click on the screen and have the camera focus or set the exposure might be useful.

Otherwise, keep the flip screen and give me GPS.
 
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#23
scott said:
I don't see the value of having a flip screen unless it provides something that the current LCD cannot, such as touch display.
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Have you ever wanted to get a macro shot at eye level for something on the ground? Have you ever wanted to frame a shot while holding over head? Have you ever wanted to shoot video of kids playing, at their eye level?

It gives you far more room for creative shooting.... bring it on. The fixed display cameras are still with us... ;-)


scott said:
My camcorder has a flip screen that is touch sensitive and allows me to selectively set the exposure. This might be a cool feature for the 60D. Having the ability to click on the screen and have the camera focus or set the exposure might be useful.

Otherwise, keep the flip screen and give me GPS.
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Who says you can't have both?

Imagine holding a dSLR with a large lens and an attached flash and trying to touch a screen to focus. I can't imagine it. Not saying I wouldn't want it, I just can't imagine it. It is a far more appealing idea to me for a very light P&S camera.
 
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#25
I definitely think it should have a swivel screen.

The only complaint about swivel screens that seems valid (but solveable) is that is that on some models they don't fasten to the camera well, and if you're not swiveling they can flop out. That's bad - but it seems like a good design shouldn't have this problem. Heck, we're talking about a dslr here - it's not like size or weight is at a premium, put in a good latching mechanism.

If you're a dslr snob, you're definitely not using liveview anyways. You're using the viewfinder.

The only thing you use it for is navigating menus or reviewing pictures. If you've ever tried to review pictures via the camera screen, you know that a picture which looks bad on the screen can end up looking good at full size on the monitor, and visa versa. So if you lose a few pixels in exchange for the rotating screen, it's not like it's going to make much of a difference anyways.

So what I'm saying is - the screen doesn't do any primary tasks on the dslr anyways. Usually the argument against an articulating screen is that you'll lose a few pixels of resolution, but that isn't going to make or break anything you're doing anyways.

But an articulating screen makes liveview useful - in situations where it's impossible to use the viewfinder, you can finally actually use liveview for something. If you need to hold the camera over your head, if you need to put it down on the ground, to your left or right, put it on a tripod, remotely trigger the camera (you could be standing in front of it!), start a long exposure going without touching the camera...these are all things that liveview + articulating screen can let you do when it's impossible to use the viewfinder.
 
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#26
I can now wait patiently for the 60D since my 40D came back from Canon, after replacing the electronics board ($200), and all my lenses are tweaked again for tack sharp focus at no extra cost, THANK YOU CANON! Canon has terrific customer service. I fuss sometimes about their overpixelation syndrome, but you have to admit Canon really knows how to take care of their customers and their equipment.

Time to get out and shoot and leave the 60D behind for dream time....
 
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#27
What’s the point of bringing a 60D, don’t we have already a 7D and a Rebel xt2i??? Canon will create a camera to be between the 7D and xt2i??? What’s the point of it???
 
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egmancera said:
What’s the point of bringing a 60D, don’t we have already a 7D and a Rebel xt2i??? Canon will create a camera to be between the 7D and xt2i??? What’s the point of it???
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You really can't guess, especially in these economic times? The 7D is OVERKILL for many folks and twice the price of the T2i. Sure, 7D features are terrific, but I believe a better bodied and stepped up features from the T2i in a 60D is just what many folks are interested in. Watch the sales figures, if they get it right. If they try something a little more radical and it clicks, then look out... out of the park.
 
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#29
Why is Canon introducing another camera? MONEY, people like to buy things (Look at why our economy is so jacked) Canon is playing off of peoples desire to get the next best thing, and when they do upgrade to a new camera they usually buy a new lens or two, with some supporting Canon apparel. This is business as usual. Now they have at least 2 camera updates a year.
 
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gkreis said:
I can now wait patiently for the 60D since my 40D came back from Canon, after replacing the electronics board ($200), and all my lenses are tweaked again for tack sharp focus at no extra cost, THANK YOU CANON! Canon has terrific customer service. I fuss sometimes about their overpixelation syndrome, but you have to admit Canon really knows how to take care of their customers and their equipment.

Time to get out and shoot and leave the 60D behind for dream time....
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My Canon s90 has developed 3 bad pixels, right in the middle of the picture. There's no official way for me to fix this on my own.

When I asked at the store about a warranty replacement, they said sure - they could ship my camera into Canon, and I would get it back - in 4-6 WEEKS.

How long did it take to get your camera back? I don't know about you, but the "we'll fix your camera and you'll get it back in 6 weeks" isn't feasible for me - for that amount of time, I'd have to buy a 2nd camera to cover the gap.
 
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#32
Retail sending it to manufacturer time... that sound reasonable to me. It takes time and I guess they always have other things lined up to do before your item comes along. Anyway it is probably a wide estimate... could be shorter, but probably not longer. 8)

Oh, and you should always have 2 cameras! : ;D ;D
 
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PaulRivers said:
My Canon s90 has developed 3 bad pixels, right in the middle of the picture. There's no official way for me to fix this on my own.

When I asked at the store about a warranty replacement, they said sure - they could ship my camera into Canon, and I would get it back - in 4-6 WEEKS.

How long did it take to get your camera back? I don't know about you, but the "we'll fix your camera and you'll get it back in 6 weeks" isn't feasible for me - for that amount of time, I'd have to buy a 2nd camera to cover the gap.
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It took about 1 1/2 weeks the first time, when they repaired the electronics. But when it came back, I realized the focus issues were back again. So they paid shipping there and back and did the adjustments for no charge. I sent on a Monday and it was back on Friday.

I wonder if the dSLR cameras get better treatment than P&S? Was that official Canon support? Call Canon direct.
 
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#34
wuschba said:
I wonder how long "just around the corner" might be... ???
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I wonder if Canon has a strategy to 'game' the rumor mill and use it to buy time for their products? They could easily let a little line out here and there from CR2s, who may not even know they are being played, and keep the faithful faithful.

Is this a strong dose of paranoia I am dealing with or just a little? ;-)
 
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#35
gkreis said:
Is this a strong dose of paranoia I am dealing with or just a little? ;-)
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Considering what other companys do? No ;)

But I guess that Canon shouldn't push their luck to much here - the 60D is just too late anyway and from what I read here and in other forums a lot of potential customers went to 550D/7D or Nikon already...
 
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#38
A few people in this forum have been wanting a new DSLR body that is even smaller than the Rebel and uses EF lens. Some have been quoting that film SLR were made smaller than the Rebel. I hope that they realize that there is no grip on the small SLR and the lens mount are smaller in the old days. I just cannot see that anything smaller than the Rebel with hand grip and EF mount can still fit in an adult's hand. As it is now, even the 40D has only about 1/2 inch on the non-grip side of the body and about 3/4 inch between the grip and the lens.
 
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#39
I would stay as far away from the 60D as possible! :-[ - I have owned a 40D for just over 2 years and the shutter box failed. As per others on the net, this is not uncommon. Unless the 60D uses other shutters not related to the xxD series cameras I wouldnt buy it. - I have since bought the 7D. That uses the 1D series pro shutter. Much more confidence there. No problems so far. I cant see wanting a 60D over a 7D anyway. Canon has dropped the ball as of late. First with 1D mk III focus issues, the 40D shutter, as well as some lackluster L lenses.
 
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