60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger

[Marsu42]

I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature. I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it.

Same for me - but you can around the missing afma (Canon obviously cut it to make the 7d look better, thanks, Canon!) if you buy only new lenses, try if the af is ok and if not exchange it. Imho the missing afma is really an issue for lenses faster than f2.8 and 3rd party manufacturers whose manufacturing tolerances are not specifically calibrated for eos bodies.

 

[aznable]

I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature. I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it. At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand. I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens). But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that. I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out. So just be aware of this. I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys

 

[RLPhoto]

I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature. I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it. At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand. I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens). But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that. I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out. So just be aware of this. I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys

Lol yep, the 60D is a joke. A Super-rebel really, the 7D is the way to go for the extra $$$.

 

[elflord]

But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that. I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out. So just be aware of this. I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

I believe the 50D also has AFMA, so could be an option if you're on a budget and really want this.

 

[EchoLocation]

just buy the t4i, or the t2i. the 60D is getting real old and has an old sensor. If you need something now, buy a refurbished T2i(or from the CLP,) for about 450 bucks. Then if you really want the new thing, sell it and buy the 70d or 7DII when it comes out.
The 60D is a waste of money at this point.

 

[RLPhoto]

I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature. I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it. At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand. I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens). But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that. I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out. So just be aware of this. I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys

Lol yep, the 60D is a joke. A Super-rebel really, the 7D is the way to go for the extra $$$.

Neither one of you has the camera and you are calling it joke? It has the same sensor as the 7D and has more features than the 50D. Microadjustment is great, but I have several fast lenses and all of mine are tack sharp on my 60D.

Technically, the 550D also has the same sensor as the 7D. There is much to be desired in the 60D, especially it's funny ergonomics with the thumb dial and thumb pad in one.

 

[Jotho]

I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature. I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it. At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand. I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens). But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that. I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out. So just be aware of this. I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys

Lol yep, the 60D is a joke. A Super-rebel really, the 7D is the way to go for the extra $$$.

Neither one of you has the camera and you are calling it joke? It has the same sensor as the 7D and has more features than the 50D. Microadjustment is great, but I have several fast lenses and all of mine are tack sharp on my 60D.

Technically, the 550D also has the same sensor as the 7D. There is much to be desired in the 60D, especially it's funny ergonomics with the thumb dial and thumb pad in one.

Guys, you're completely wrong and I will explain why. You're judging it from a pro perspective. The 60D was my second DSLR after he 400D. Those bodies taught much about photography and made me want to learn more. Comments about the cheap body is way out, it's not positioned as a pro camera therefore they won't charge that money. About the dials, well I guess it comes down to what you're used to. Someone mentioned buying. Pentax instead, well I don't know how it stands up, but I do know that if you're spending that amount of money it's not a bad idea to go with the market leader. Image quality is important, but there are other things that count too. Range of lenses, warranty, second/third hand value etc. I repeat my recommendation, go with the 60D! You're certain to be happy with it, then when you have learned more and want more out of your camera, sell it off without losing too much money and then move up the ladder.

 

[Marsu42]

There is much to be desired in the 60D

Of course there is - that's why it's priced at it is! But as a compromise - any camera or lens is - it served me well. It just feels strange to 40d/50d shooters, because Canon split the xxd line and the 60d isn't a clear successor.

Looking "below": much better ergonomics and specs (except afma, but you can work around this) than any xxxd which make it good for a stepping stone into dslrs, because you can learn a lot with the 60d.

Looking "above": A lot cheaper than 7d, and while the price difference might look tiny to red ring customers, it is a lot if buying first dlsr equipment and deciding if to get a kit lens or at least a efs15-85 or the like. And 60d runs full magic lantern, which is a killer feature for me.

Calling any camera body a "joke" is rather trollish, because it just depends on the budget, experience and usage scenario for each individual person. You could as well calling getting an 1dx to shoot your grandchildren a joke, but this isn't helpful either. Not because I would feel bad because some doesn't like my 60d camera baby, but because it ignores that camera equipment is about making compromise choices.

 

[aznable]

we call a joke because we were very disappointed when it come out, really a step back from 50D

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact
all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

 

[Marsu42]

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

I agree the 60d is overpriced in comparison to the d7000, this wasn't like that on 60d release, but so is the 5d3 to the d800 - Canon nowadays is just more expensive, like it or not. Pentax is no alternative due to limited lens selection.

But you're saying all advantages over the rebel line are gone except - very important - ergonomics (back dial, top lcd, pentarprism, better sealing)? Well, except higher shutter rating, 1/8000s speed, 1/250s x-sync, faster fps, much larger buffer that is. For still shooting, the 60d is still a good option, but it's due to replacement next - at a much higher price again, talking about compromise.

 

[aznable]

well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

 

[Marsu42]

well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

... I don't think a 5d3/d800 discussion refresh is necessary, but to stay on topic while outclassed by the d7000 the 60d runs magic lantern while Nikon doesn't have any 3rd party firmware add-ons - this was the decisive reason back when I decided to go the Canon path.

 

[aznable]

well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

... I don't think a 5d3/d800 discussion refresh is necessary, but to stay on topic while outclassed by the d7000 the 60d runs magic lantern while Nikon doesn't have any 3rd party firmware add-ons - this was the decisive reason back when I decided to go the Canon path.

magic lanter runs in my 50D also, but i never installed; it's not a canon product, it's something that you use at your own risk

 

[Marsu42]

magic lanter runs in my 50D also, but i never installed; it's not a canon product, it's something that you use at your own risk

I was concerned at first about this, too. But at least the unified port nowadays is very stable, and it just sets a flag in camera to enable it to boot from the card - you can reverse this at any time. Given the features ml adds to still shooing, live view and video, I'd say it's worth the extremely tiny risk anytime.

 

[DianeK]

Although I prefer my 7D to my 60D, I too take exception to it being called a "joke". If the OP is a first-time dslr user, this camera is great to learn on. It was 20 years since I had last held an SLR in my hands when I got the 60D and quite frankly, if I had got the 7D first I think I would have been overwhelmed with all I had to learn. But this is just my personal experience being a techno-weenie at heart.

But I don't think I would advise buying brand new at this point. So my humble advice to the OP is:

1. if you want to get up and running quickly with a dslr, pick up a used 60D. Learn all you can about exposure/aperture/metering etc. then upgrade down the road. The only caveat to this approach is that if your primary targets are fast-moving children you may find the Servo mode of the 60D less than stellar.

2. if you are not easily scared off by the thought of a more complicated camera at the outset, then pick up a used 7D. It's better Servo will certainly come in handy with kinetic young children. I advise used because this camera is due for a refresh in the not too distant future and I think there will be a model with a better sensor that would then be worth buying new. The one thing I have noticed over the last several days is that the number of used 7D's being advertised on forums is declining probably because more people are hanging on to them since the rumour of a firmware upgrade on the horizon.

Phew, this is a bit long-winded...I apologize for perhaps writing a dissertation here

 

[RLPhoto]

we call a joke because we were very disappointed when it come out, really a step back from 50D

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact
all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

+1

 

[ThuiQuaDayNe]

When in doubt, SPRAY and PRAY.
7D better for sports but it is twice as much as 60D.

 

[able 1039]

well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

The D7000 only does video at 1080p at 24 frames per second while the 60D does 1080p at 30/24 fps and 720p at 60/30/24fps. That's a big importance for someone who shoots video of sports.

Also, the D7000 is edged out because of the swivel screen too. I shoot mainly skateboarding which means I'm usually shooting with a fisheye lens at a low perspective. I can't stress how helpful the swivel screen has been.

If Canon makes the new 7D Mark II with a swivel screen I'm making the switch, but until that happens, the 60D remains the most pro (swively screened) DSLR that Canon offers.

 

[Dylan777]

we call a joke because we were very disappointed when it come out, really a step back from 50D

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact
all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

LOL...you gotta be kidding right? pentax??? What are you going to do with lenses??? Let me guess, Tamron and Sigma ;D ;D ;D

 

[DianeK]

I'm suspicious the original poster has abandoned this thread as we all here have wandered off on various tangents. But if they haven't I'd be curious to find out what their final purchase was.