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What is interesting is the Canon APS-C is not the same size as other APS-C. In fact the Canon APS-C sensor is significantly smaller than the competition (about 5- 7%) of Nikon, Sony, Pentax and Samsung. The Canon APS-C has a crop factor of 1.6 whereas the others have a crop factor of about 1.5.

The same with APS-H which even the Canon sensors are different sizes, with the Leica M8 sensor being slightly larger.

The sensor in the 1D3 has a crop factor of 1.28 and the 1D4 crop factor of 1.29
 
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hmmm, I don't think that Canon will come with a APX-H senson, thus I would very much like to see one in af EOS 7DII. That would be awesome. ;D

But no, it will be a APS-C. Then Canon put a new APS-C sensor with great ISO, IQ and DR in the xxD and xxxD as time goes.
The share holders will love that! :-\
 
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briansquibb said:
What is interesting is the Canon APS-C is not the same size as other APS-C. In fact the Canon APS-C sensor is significantly smaller than the competition (about 5- 7%) of Nikon, Sony, Pentax and Samsung. The Canon APS-C has a crop factor of 1.6 whereas the others have a crop factor of about 1.5.
The same with APS-H which even the Canon sensors are different sizes, with the Leica M8 sensor being slightly larger.
The sensor in the 1D3 has a crop factor of 1.28 and the 1D4 crop factor of 1.29

Correct. Canon cannot even get something as simple as physical sensor size consistent between models and generations.
 
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Ronnie said:
hmmm, I don't think that Canon will come with a APX-H senson, thus I would very much like to see one in af EOS 7DII. That would be awesome. ;D
But no, it will be a APS-C. Then Canon put a new APS-C sensor with great ISO, IQ and DR in the xxD and xxxD as time goes.
The share holders will love that! :-\

Many Canon APS-C users with great EF-S lenses (10-22, 17-55, 15-85, 60 Macro) like myself would also love having a clear APS-C commitment with possibilities to update Canon APS-C cameras into the future.

If the 7D II comes with a 18 MP sensor with IQ/DR at least on par with the Nikon D7000 plus a few other minor improvements - e.g. for once a fully functional Auto-ISO implementation - and with a very reasonable price tag of max. USD/€ 1,500, then Canon will have another bigtime seller. Unless Nikon also launches a killer-DX camera ["D400"] that beats the 7D II to the punch and/or sells for less money ... like D800 vs. 5D3. :-)
 
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I'd argue about "significance" of the Canon vs. rest of world in APS-C sizes. Yes it is smaller, but in photographic terms it is really insignificant, unless you really need the absolute widest angles where a bigger APS-C would give you a fraction over a smaller one.

On a similar note, that is why APS-H was a bit awkward in the bigger picture. It's a bit too close to both APS-C and full frame.
 
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AvTvM said:
briansquibb said:
What is interesting is the Canon APS-C is not the same size as other APS-C. In fact the Canon APS-C sensor is significantly smaller than the competition (about 5- 7%) of Nikon, Sony, Pentax and Samsung. The Canon APS-C has a crop factor of 1.6 whereas the others have a crop factor of about 1.5.
The same with APS-H which even the Canon sensors are different sizes, with the Leica M8 sensor being slightly larger.
The sensor in the 1D3 has a crop factor of 1.28 and the 1D4 crop factor of 1.29

Correct. Canon cannot even get something as simple as physical sensor size consistent between models and generations.

Why would they keep the same size?

You are just seizing on the opportunity to criticise Canon based on nonsense.
 
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AvTvM said:
briansquibb said:
What is interesting is the Canon APS-C is not the same size as other APS-C. In fact the Canon APS-C sensor is significantly smaller than the competition (about 5- 7%) of Nikon, Sony, Pentax and Samsung. The Canon APS-C has a crop factor of 1.6 whereas the others have a crop factor of about 1.5.
The same with APS-H which even the Canon sensors are different sizes, with the Leica M8 sensor being slightly larger.
The sensor in the 1D3 has a crop factor of 1.28 and the 1D4 crop factor of 1.29

Correct. Canon cannot even get something as simple as physical sensor size consistent between models and generations.

So what? Nikon D1 and D2 series were APS-C based :) , while Canon used APS-H in their 1D series from the beginning.
 
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briansquibb said:
Why would they keep the same size?

You are just seizing on the opportunity to criticise Canon based on nonsense.

he is trolling :)

the forum moderator would constrain him to post a photo to post a message; maybe he would remember why a person spend mony to buy a camera
 
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lol said:
I'd argue about "significance" of the Canon vs. rest of world in APS-C sizes. Yes it is smaller, but in photographic terms it is really insignificant, unless you really need the absolute widest angles where a bigger APS-C would give you a fraction over a smaller one.

On a similar note, that is why APS-H was a bit awkward in the bigger picture. It's a bit too close to both APS-C and full frame.

I thought APS-C was too close when it was introduced two years after APS-H was released. Still wont be long before APS-C is consigned to P&S and compacts .
 
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