A new camera not named the R1 is coming in the 2nd half of 2021 [CR2]

ctk

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It's called the EOS R6.
20MP? No thanks. You can spare me the impassioned arguments over how I won't miss the resolution yadda yadda. Point is I don't want to pay more for a camera that has less of the things that are important to me. I'm happy enough with my R to stick with it for now
 
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SteveC

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20MP? No thanks. You can spare me the impassioned arguments over how I won't miss the resolution yadda yadda. Point is I don't want to pay more for a camera that has less of the things that are important to me. I'm happy enough with my R to stick with it for now
A 32 MP camera with R5 features (minus those that require 45MP, i.e., 8K and 4K downsampled from 8K) would have been my sweet spot. Or you can look at it as a 32MP R6. Actually that's probably a better comparison, since I'd be happier with dual SD slots instead of one being that horrifically expensive CFE.

I opted for overkill rather than underkill, and I can understand exactly where you're coming from.
 

justaCanonuser

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The 7D Mark II was officially discontinued about three or four years ago. Since then, only the 7D Mark II + W-E1 stock number has been available. Be sure you're looking for the right listing. A lot of places have that stock number on back order, but say they will be getting more soon. It may be that Canon let production get behind in order to respond to the overwhelming demand for the R5 and R6 at a time when supply chain problems where at a peak.
Never seen any official announcement, but I may have missed it. But it would be logical to phase out stock, if production would be already stopped now. The 7D2 is an old camera now. Still not bad, despite its mediocre phase AF system, I use mine frequently for birding. But it really would be time to come up with a (mirrorless) successor. Pretty sure that there would be a market for a good, fast crop camera with a not too high pixel number but improved low light performance.
 

Michael Clark

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Never seen any official announcement, but I may have missed it. But it would be logical to phase out stock, if production would be already stopped now. The 7D2 is an old camera now. Still not bad, despite its mediocre phase AF system, I use mine frequently for birding. But it really would be time to come up with a (mirrorless) successor. Pretty sure that there would be a market for a good, fast crop camera with a not too high pixel number but improved low light performance.

Models that old go in and out of production as needed to stockpile predicted sales until the next scheduled production run. Right now, with the crunch on flash memory and chips in general, as well as overall supply chain issues caused by the disruption of COVID-19 and the fire at a major chip fabricator, I'd be surprised if 7D Mark II production was not currently on hiatus. Whether Canon has decided to make some more when capacity loosens up or has decided that the curtain on the 7D Mark II has been closed remains to be seen. But if the fat lady hasn't already begun singing, she's definitely been warming up her voice.
 
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David - Sydney

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On the other hand, some of us would prefer not to wear out our new and expensive R5 bodies on "high mileage" sports/action that requires us to crop to APS-C dimensions anyway if we can't justify spending what it takes to get a 300/2.8 or 400/2.8 to use under the (poor) lighting at high school/youth sports facilities. So bring on an R7 for the high mileage assignments and let us save the R5 for when we really need all that it has to offer.
High mileage assignments? The R5's shutter life is 500k actuations (same as 1DX iii) compared to 150k for the 5Div, 200k for the 7Dii and 300k for the R6. Using the eshutter doesn't affect the shutter life of course.
I contend that the 7D series are a marketing unicorn with fast fps, weather sealing, dual card and top AF in a relatively cheap body. I can't see all these features coming in a R7 body. All these features are already in R5/R6. A crop sensor would have a cheaper fab cost than full frame but I can't see that translating to a big price decrease compared to the R6.
I'm just not convinced that there is a big enough difference to the R6 to warrant a R7 and the required new RF-S wide angle lenses that a crop sensor would need (10-16mm plus maybe some primes). Alternatively, Canon may say to use an ef-R adaptor and EF-S lenses.
The only benefit for a crop sensor over the R5/R6 would be if there is a greater pixel density. Perhaps a crop version of the R5s' sensor.
 
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