Well, you assume that is the only point. That would be wrong.Since the point of smaller sensors is to have smaller and lighter cameras and lenses, I’m not sure what the point is to putting an APS-C sensor in a FF body.
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Well, you assume that is the only point. That would be wrong.Since the point of smaller sensors is to have smaller and lighter cameras and lenses, I’m not sure what the point is to putting an APS-C sensor in a FF body.
The way my local camera store works is when you want a camera, you give them money (the "cost" or "price" and they give you the camera. Not got enough money means it don't work and they don't give you the camera.
I'd assumed most camera stores worked in a similar manner so please do tell me where me giving them money isn't required and I'll be an R5 owner tomorrow.
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I take it you are either walking everywhere or already exercised enough patience and are now driving a Bugatti then?
You mean just like the 7D2 didn't deliver the features of the 5D3 at almost exactly half the MSRP back in 2014? Oh wait, it did exactly that, except it also came with DPAF, 70% faster fps, deeper buffer, and GPS!
No there is other things in life beside cameras as well. Right now you need to jump FF to get certain specs. I would buy a R7 at the price of a R6 or maybe pay a little more to get even better specs. I just don't need FF and don't want the transition to those expensive FF glass. A R6 body with 3 nice FF lenses is just too expensive for me as a hobbyist. The R7 if it has specs like the R6 is what I have been waiting for a long time. It covers my needs and is in my situation still doable in terms of costs.
If Canon just swapped out the FF sensor for a 32mp crop sensor in an R6 and called it an R7 why would it cost more than the R6 ?I’ve seen the list of features that most people would want in a 7D2 mirrorless replacement. Most fall between the R5 and R6. Why anyone would think you would get all the features of the R5/R6 with a sensor resolution somewhere between the R5/R6 at a price below the R6 is a pipe dream IMO.
I don’t think Canon is going to undercut their flagship with a crop-body that delivers generally the same performance at less than half the cost.
You say the R5 costs “way more” than a 7D2 replacement without knowing what the specs are or the cost is. That’s funny. Likely and hopefully aren’t good management tools.
When people say the R5 is out of their price range I tend to think it’s actually out of their patience range.
R6=not enough pixel density. R5=too much money. An R7 will need the pixel density of at least the R5(preferably more), the AF of the R5 and 6, the ergonomics of an R5/6, build quality of the R6 and all wrapped up in the price of an R6.R5/R6 covered this well.
I'm not sure with video getting more popular now a days if that is a wise move for Canon. IBIS is also a nice feature to have for static subjects photography. For wildlife photography I understand this options aren't necessary for you. Would you still buy it with this features included? If yes then why would Canon remove this if it can target a bigger audience with this camera.Few other things I'd like to see:
No ibis
No AA filter
I agree. R6 would have been a good compromise for me except for the pixels.R6=not enough pixel density. R5=too much money. An R7 will need the pixel density of at least the R5(preferably more), the AF of the R5 and 6, the ergonomics of an R5/6, build quality of the R6 and all wrapped up in the price of an R6.
Well that’s simple for Canon to achieve : just swap the FF sensor for a 32mp crop sensor in the R6 , call it the R7 - same or preferably bit lower price . Job done !I agree. R6 would have been a good compromise for me except for the pixels.
Yes. But without small lenses, there is very little point in minimizing the body size.A Crop sensor body with a RF mount does not need to be as large as a FF body. Canon can make the body smaller.
If Canon just swapped out the FF sensor for a 32mp crop sensor in an R6 and called it an R7 why would it cost more than the R6 ?
Few other things I'd like to see:
No ibis
No AA filter
Focus stacking in camera (this is just a software change to what's in R5 and R6)
If anything I expect the R7 would be priced slightly cheaper than the R6
R6=not enough pixel density. R5=too much money. An R7 will need the pixel density of at least the R5(preferably more), the AF of the R5 and 6, the ergonomics of an R5/6, build quality of the R6 and all wrapped up in the price of an R6.
What if R6 price is already borderline of what is acceptable for someones budget? What if someone has to save for other things as well like buying a house? A car? The R5 seems like a great camera but it's out of my league. I assume for a lot of hobbyists it's out of their league as well. Expensive toys (for a hobbyist) .. Not to mention the accessoires that also add up costs like CFexpress cards + transition to FF glass if you want a R7 actually. You assume one only has to buy cameras and nothing else. What about the diminishing returns? The R7 (if R6 APSC) will do the job for me personally why would I spend so much more money for a R5 if I also have other priorities in life? I doubt my audience will see the difference anyways online. Will I see it? Maybe, do I want to pay 3x + more for that? NopeIf someone can save up for XXX (let’s say R6) camera, that also means that if the save longer then they can get XXX (let’s say R5) camera too - the difference is they don’t want to wait the extra time.
When you’re DONE saving you head to the store. The difference is how long you are willing to save.
If someone can save up for XXX (let’s say R6) camera, that also means that if the save longer then they can get XXX (let’s say R5) camera too - the difference is they don’t want to wait the extra time.
When you’re DONE saving you head to the store. The difference is how long you are willing to save.
Your assumption that people can save money at a consistent, constant rate is so absurd that it almost needs no comment. I don't think that is the reality for the vast majority of people. I think most folks have no savings to speak of. Apparently you have no idea what the real world is like for most people.
What if R6 price is already borderline of what is acceptable for someones budget?
R5 will be like twice as expensive or so compared to R7? IdkI don't know where you're getting this 3X figure from but okay.