Announcing The Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

tpatana said:
I'm still puzzled who uses touch screen to change settings. Isn't it 10x faster to use the dials?
I'm with you on that one and I for one was happy to see that the touchscreen is fairly limited. I'm not a huge fan of them and usually end up changing my settings by accident with them. I suppose an option to enable or disable when it functions would be nice tradeoff, though, and may come in future firmware.
 
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mackguyver said:
tpatana said:
I'm still puzzled who uses touch screen to change settings. Isn't it 10x faster to use the dials?
I'm with you on that one and I for one was happy to see that the touchscreen is fairly limited. I'm not a huge fan of them and usually end up changing my settings by accident with them. I suppose an option to enable or disable when it functions would be nice tradeoff, though, and may come in future firmware.

1. According to a Canon video on their website, touchscreen can be enabled or disabled. At least that's what I recall seeing.

2. Touchscreen isn't for us stills guys. And it's not even really for menu surfing. It's more for the video guys to perfectly compliment the totally unique Canon DPAF. No more manual focus pulling or even moving a toggle around to rack. Just set the rack speed in the menu and, start shooting and then touch the damn screen to pull/rack focus. This thing is going to do better in the video market than most suspect.
 
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Uncompressed HDMI output to external recorders is also possible at 4:2:2 Full HD resolution. 4K videos can be
recorded to CFast™ cards as Motion JPEG files, while Full HD can be recorded as MOV or MP4 files


I think I found the cripple that defends the C300II's video prowess. No HDMI output for 4k. Kinda frustrating if true and probably not something they will firmware fix. That said, certainly not a dealbreaker for video uses. Just happened to catch it (unless it's an editing error)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Mark D5 TEAM II said:
I'd love to get more info on the 1DX Mark II's new "invisible subject area AF detection" that is apparently larger than the indicated AF area in the VF:

1DxII.jpg


Interesting comment about this from the DPR Nikon rah-rah boys:

"There's also no reason to assume the D5 doesn't also have this invisible area detection. Our tests indicate the metering sensor extends well beyond the AF frame on Nikons, and since we know Nikons especially use their metering sensors very, very effectively for subject tracking, there's every reason to assume Nikon also has this so-called 'invisible' detection. In fact, undoubtedly Nikon's very, very effective tracking system would certainly have locked and maintained focus on the subject's eyes, whereas as you can see the poor, outmoded Canon tracking joke has mushed up the focus by tracking the subject's face, neck, jersey, and even part of the background."

Looks like the 1D2 AF is even better than the specs sheets suggest.

Fixed that for ya. Next time, please don't selectively quote DPR's totally unbiased statements!!

;)

Thanks for making a point we repeatedly try to make for us. We've mentioned repeatedly at DPR that for long distance, telephoto subjects, one doesn't need face or eye detection because the depth-of-field (measured sometimes in meters) is enough to cover most of the entire body. And that body is typically well-isolated in depth compared to either an infinite background (sky behind birds-in-flight, e.g.), or crowd-goers at a stadium many meters behind the running QB.

In such cases, a general understanding of initial subject distance, combined with intelligent analysis of AF points registering either similar distances, or similar distances +/- approaching/receding trends, works quite well. Which is why even a 5D Mark III without an image sensor as a metering sensor can even subject track at all. Although this method works well for subjects isolated in distance - which tends to be the case for telephoto subjects - it has its limitations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F58xGAaxhrA). Complement distance-based subject tracking with some weighting towards color/pattern information, though, and you decrease the chances that the subject tracking algorithm jumps off to the wrong subject, a problem inherent to cameras like the 5D Mark III that rely only on distance information to subject track. That's why wildlife photographers, for example, have found the 7D Mark II to progress over the original 7D with its introduction of a high-resolution metering sensor (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8712824369/tamron-sp-150-600mm-f-5-0-6-3-di-vc-usd-field-test).

But a bride or a toddler at 35mm f/1.4 and closer subject distances is a different story: depth-of-field is measured in centimeters, so for accurate focus, you need to distinguish an eye from a nose from an ear from hair.

Your comment appears to imply we thing face/eye tracking is the end all, be all of photography. Not true. Face/eye tracking, and even that level of subject tracking, matters for certain types of photography, and doesn't matter for others. And if you're not subject tracking, even the 1DX's (let alone the 1DX II) ability to focus continuously on subjects with one AF point is second to none. You can consider that our official statement, and suggesting we're suggesting otherwise is, frankly, specious.

Rishi
Technical Editor | Digital Photography Review
 
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Don Haines said:
Jack Douglas said:
"Canon really threw the current 1DX owner UNDER THE BUS here."

Meaning what? Doesn't your 1DX function properly any more?

I feel like I'm about to lose my sanity.

Jack
This is Canon Rumors..... no sanity allowed! Go outside and start taking squirrel pictures!

So, I'm back from the edge. Feeling a little better.

Chatterer (Burgess books) asked me to pass a hello to Don.

Jack
 

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ajfotofilmagem said:
ritholtz said:
Still confused weather to get it or not. Is it going to be big jump from 70D to 1dx2 for novice photographer. I want all round FF camera which can do both stills and videos like 70D.
1DX is not intended for novice photographer. But if money is burning the pocket, and needs to spend it immediately, then go ahead.

The current 1DX already offers a large jump in photo and video quality over the 70D (exception of Dual Pixel AF). As the new 1DX Mark II will have Dual Pixel AF, you'll have everything better (exception to the articulated LCD).

1DX is like a car of Formula 1:

It's the best there is for the work to which it is intended. But it is not appropriate to take the family for a ride.
Fernando_Alonso_2013_Malaysia_FP1.jpg

In fast car (etc.) action I'm a little confused with the slo-mo specs. You get Full-HD/120fps but why not possible higher fps at less than Full-HD? For example a very affordable GoPro Hero4 Black gives you 4K UHD/30fps and 1080p/120fps & 720p/240fps. Why not include 720p/240fps in 1DX2?

And what about H.265 (x265) video encoding (v.1.9 already). Much smaller file size.

I think we have more to see with firmware updates.
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Stu_bert said:
Jonathan Johansson said:
http://www.fotosidan.se/cldoc/vi-har-provat-canon-1d-x.htm?page=2

JPEG pushed 5-stops in the shadows, 1D X Mk I vs 1D X Mk II.

Thanks for posting, just found the same via FM forums...

Looks promising

Help. Novice here. It doesn't look promising to me but what should I be looking for to see improvement? This is an honest question.

Jack

Jack you are looking at the difference between the third image and the sixth image. The third is a crop from the 1DX, the sixth from the 1DX MkII, the colour and blotchyness in the 1DX crop are very noticeable, as is a colour cast. As for the MkII, it is the best jpeg lifting capability we have seen from a Canon, ever. If you were working the RAW file to adjust for noise etc then I think it is a stunning result, a couple more images like this and I'll be pre-ordering.
 
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