Any oil spatter on the 1DX mkll?

[SteveM]

How is it looking on the 1DX mkll? Does it have the oil spatter issue that seemingly plagued the 1DX?
I am considering buying one of these but will not invest that kind of money in a camera that has a flaw such as this. I am too heavily invested in Canon to consider switching systems should the oil issue continue, but am intrigued by the fact that I can find no trace of oil issues with Nikon's D5 when googling around, yes I am aware of the serious issues Nikon have had in what is possibly the past.....ie, they appear to have solved it.
Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

[H. Jones]

I've had my 1DX Mark II for about two months now with around 38,000 frames shot and I haven't noticed it at all yet. That said, most of my work is shot wide open or at f/8, but I do often shoot landscapes at f/14 or f/22 and haven't seen any abnormal amount of dust/oil spots on the sensor.

 

[H. Jones]

For the sake of science, I just took a test shot of my sensor after two months of hard use. (Click for full-res)

Going to note again in this double-post, this is after shooting 38,000 frames in two months across all kinds of conditions. I've seen test shots from 1DX sensors with the oil problem that look way, way worse than this after a single day of shooting.

I'm honestly surprised it doesn't look worse than this considering how much I've put it through and how often I change lenses. That said, I'm definitely going to give it a good clean later!

 

[SteveM]

I've read as much as there is about the 1DX oil spatter, and reading between the lines it seemed worse (for whatever reason) when using it at very high frame rates. Not wishing to add to any potential problems, but has anyone used the mark ll at 12 fps? Did you notice any oil?

 

[H. Jones]

I've read as much as there is about the 1DX oil spatter, and reading between the lines it seemed worse (for whatever reason) when using it at very high frame rates. Not wishing to add to any potential problems, but has anyone used the mark ll at 12 fps? Did you notice any oil?

A lot of the 38,000 frames I've shot come from both the 14 FPS and 16 FPS modes on the camera. I've spent long days out in the hot sun(a situation that many thought worsened the original 1DX oil problem) shooting over 5000 frames in a single day during football and soccer season. I rarely ever shoot my camera on lower burst rates.

 

[Eldar]

No issues with oil on my copy. I did not have any issues with my 1DX either.

 

[Click]

No issues with oil on my copy. I did not have any issues with my 1DX either.

Same here.

 

[East Wind Photography]

I had two spots on mine, not sure they were there new or not. I had to send it in for hot pixel reduction and they cleaned it. So far no more spots after 5000 shots. I never even noticed them until i did a dust analysis.

 

[JMZawodny]

I've swabbed my sensor once, but that was for a large grain of "stuff" that the self-clean would not eject. No sign of anything oily. Looks to me as though they did not want to repeat the issues of the previous model and have taken measures to prevent that from happening again. Get the 1Dx2 - you'll love it.

 

[Sashi]

None yet, had one since launch

 

[Jack Douglas]

Since I like to be paranoid and fret , what is a good yet simple procedure to follow in evaluating this? Is shooting a clear sky and then scanning the enlarged photo good enough?

Jack

 

[privatebydesign]

Since I like to be paranoid and fret , what is a good yet simple procedure to follow in evaluating this? Is shooting a clear sky and then scanning the enlarged photo good enough?

Jack

Plain bright subject, like a white wall or sky without clouds. Stop the lens down to at least f16 and over expose by a couple of stops. Don't use a tripod, this means anything sharp is on the sensor, I normally deliberately move the camera to exaggerate this. Then just look at the exposure at 100%.

Now for the important bit, do not obsess over this it doesn't matter even a single tiny bit. The oil doesn't harm the sensor and is inconsiquential to images.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Since I like to be paranoid and fret , what is a good yet simple procedure to follow in evaluating this? Is shooting a clear sky and then scanning the enlarged photo good enough?

Jack

Plain bright subject, like a white wall or sky without clouds. Stop the lens down to at least f16 and over expose by a couple of stops. Don't use a tripod, this means anything sharp is on the sensor, I normally deliberately move the camera to exaggerate this. Then just look at the exposure at 100%.

Now for the important bit, do not obsess over this it doesn't matter even a single tiny bit. The oil doesn't harm the sensor and is inconsiquential to images.

Thanks Scott.

Wondering why the oil doesn't matter. Is it because it is very transmissive and doesn't block the pixels enough to dim the light?

Jack

 

[SteveM]

Interesting point above, you would think that light passing through any substance would degrade the image slightly in that area.....does it? Any comments here?
That aside, any oil would surely make dust stick like it had been glued on and more difficult to remove.
For this money, I'm looking at keeping this long term and can do without the 'Exxon Valdez' on my hands - but the comments above are promising.
I am also trying to keep in mind that only 'problems' get commented on and there could be an awful lot of good copies with no comments.

 

[privatebydesign]

Since I like to be paranoid and fret , what is a good yet simple procedure to follow in evaluating this? Is shooting a clear sky and then scanning the enlarged photo good enough?

Jack

Plain bright subject, like a white wall or sky without clouds. Stop the lens down to at least f16 and over expose by a couple of stops. Don't use a tripod, this means anything sharp is on the sensor, I normally deliberately move the camera to exaggerate this. Then just look at the exposure at 100%.

Now for the important bit, do not obsess over this it doesn't matter even a single tiny bit. The oil doesn't harm the sensor and is inconsiquential to images.

Thanks Scott.

Wondering why the oil doesn't matter. Is it because it is very transmissive and doesn't block the pixels enough to dim the light?

Jack

To my mind people just make too much of it.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30346.msg619264#msg619264

 

[unfocused]

I doubt if the lubricant is really "oil" in the sense that most of us think of it, it is probably more of a silicone that is less likely to adhere to surfaces and less likely to do permanent damage.

 

[East Wind Photography]

It's really just a couple of pixels which in most cases won't show up. It's more important when it comes time for.cleaning or severe cases may indicate over lubrication or a mechanical issue.

 

[arthurbikemad]

Since I like to be paranoid and fret , what is a good yet simple procedure to follow in evaluating this? Is shooting a clear sky and then scanning the enlarged photo good enough?

Jack

Plain bright subject, like a white wall or sky without clouds. Stop the lens down to at least f16 and over expose by a couple of stops. Don't use a tripod, this means anything sharp is on the sensor, I normally deliberately move the camera to exaggerate this. Then just look at the exposure at 100%.

Now for the important bit, do not obsess over this it doesn't matter even a single tiny bit. The oil doesn't harm the sensor and is inconsiquential to images.

Thanks Scott.

Wondering why the oil doesn't matter. Is it because it is very transmissive and doesn't block the pixels enough to dim the light?

Jack

To my mind people just make too much of it.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30346.msg619264#msg619264

I think your right Private, I asked the question knowing Id get flamed but hay, I wanted to clean my sensor but Canon/cps wanted it back, so that's what they got and I got a new body, no big deal.

I did post here a while back but then thought, oh god, here we go again do I want to post about my issue/experience, so minuets later I removed it :-X

 

[canon1dxman]

No issues with oil on my copy. I did not have any issues with my 1DX either.

Same here.

+1

 

[Deleted member 91053]

How is it looking on the 1DX mkll? Does it have the oil spatter issue that seemingly plagued the 1DX?

This is news to me. I did hear that a few very early ones had a slight potential issue but this was corrected very quickly. There are only a few 1DX users that I know (5) but none of us have cleaned with anything but a Rocket Blower and only one of us has used a blower - me!

If the 1DX2 sensor stays half as clean as the original then you will have no problems.