Re: Well, I jumped...
7DII is a good camera. I am satisfied with the results with the exception that sometimes to get what I want (no obvious noise on unfocused areas) I may have to use two denoising programs. First I denoise it using one program and produce a different raw file (.dng) and then process it again as raw with anothe program. 5DsR saves me from this 2-step process at least up to iso 800 or 1000. So I would like a sensor that its pixels are at least as good as the pixels of 5DsR. Judging by current Canon advancements this can be easily achieved and in fact overpassed. So a 7DIII with a better sensor as defined above would make me upgrade. OK I would also welcome more f/8 focusing points (already made in other cameras) and the new touch screen focusing technology which is now a standard (since even 200D has it). These updates alone would make me update my 7DII with no hesitation. I find that 10fps is more than enough. And of course bigger (buffer) is always better.
What do you mean "alot better"? The only thing that would make me upgrade my 7DII to 7DII would be a better sensor. Nothing else. But even this requires explaining.Hector1970 said:I'd agreed with Privatebydesign on this. Lightroom and Capture One are a muchness when it come to converting raw images. I don't think even Capture One would claim to be superior with Sony images.
Thanks for the updates on the Sony Camera.
I have been tempted by an A9 with its high frame rate.
I think it encourages Canon to keep updating and will encourage them to go big into mirrorless.
I'm not sure the physical limit of a shutter in terms of FPS but Canon must be approaching it already.
I certainly don't mind hearing about Sony cameras.
They are interesting.
I'm quite happy with Canon but if the 7DIII isn't alot better than the 7DII I might look again at Sony or a 1DX model.
privatebydesign said:ecqns said:I figured we'd get a LR defender. I am not talking about sharpening. Color rendition is totally different. It would take much more than simply slider play to get something similar. Unless you are a color scientist (which I am not and I doubt many others are either) it is very difficult to match color in that way. I've had to do it for retouching jobs and its quite difficult and thats using a single image, not trying to make a profie. As I said before and eoren1 posted above, seeing the differences with your own eyes is hard to believe until you try both camera systems or both raw converters. Please try it sometime.
It's not about defending anything, it is about pointing out the truth that there is, effectively, no difference in the rendering side of the programs when you equalize the different parameters. One is not 'better' than the other, they are both capable of essentially identical output from presets that involve no user input past making the initial preset.
It doesn't matter why anyone prefers one program over the other, it could be the UI, because their cousin uses it etc etc, but to try to make a claim that the core rendering capabilities of the two programs are dramatically different is demonstrably false.
Why would you think for a second I haven't used C1?
7DII is a good camera. I am satisfied with the results with the exception that sometimes to get what I want (no obvious noise on unfocused areas) I may have to use two denoising programs. First I denoise it using one program and produce a different raw file (.dng) and then process it again as raw with anothe program. 5DsR saves me from this 2-step process at least up to iso 800 or 1000. So I would like a sensor that its pixels are at least as good as the pixels of 5DsR. Judging by current Canon advancements this can be easily achieved and in fact overpassed. So a 7DIII with a better sensor as defined above would make me upgrade. OK I would also welcome more f/8 focusing points (already made in other cameras) and the new touch screen focusing technology which is now a standard (since even 200D has it). These updates alone would make me update my 7DII with no hesitation. I find that 10fps is more than enough. And of course bigger (buffer) is always better.
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