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But as others have said, the equipment does not make the photo, you do. True
But besides that, is there anyone using 5D MK IIIor 1DX and the 24-105 or 70-200 MK II that suffers from this while shooting?
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But as others have said, the equipment does not make the photo, you do. True
But besides that, is there anyone using 5D MK IIIor 1DX and the 24-105 or 70-200 MK II that suffers from this while shooting?
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Jotho said:
well read a bit about cross type sensors and then read the feature list of both cameras.... you may get it.
a 1200 euro 7D has way better AF then the 6D so what are you trying to tell us here?
the 900 euro 60D has cross type sensors for all AF points.
oh yeah as if that means something to an educated customer.
or as if wifi explains the cost of the 6D .. i can buy wifi cards and USB sticks for 15 euro.
wifi chips are cheap... same is true for GPS chips.
and to be honest all kind of crap sells well when there is a brand name printed on it.
because the average joe customer has no clue and only sees a brand name. :
the 6D is overpriced... and this says it all:
it´s already a joke....
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I would have thought a 6D would be exactly what you need if you're just after a second body for the 7D to do architectual, landscapes, portraits etc as you won't need the more advanced AF capabilities and frame speed of the 7D or 5Diii aren't needed here. Keep some cash in your pocket instead.RC said:
I'd assume the image quality would be on par with other full frame options. In fact, the lower MPs might even lead to lower noise if doing night time architectual shots. The only real down side seems to be the slower flash synch speed.
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My 5DIII just arrived, and so far I'm really impressed. The images are very sharp, take post well, and have excellent color. If you can get in on one of the Ebay deals, its totally worth every penny of the cost difference over a 6D. I totally believe those folks that never regretted paying full price...its an awesome machine.
Just a note on the AF system - it is only the newer lenses that work with the closed loop feedback capability of the AF system. All lenses, regardless of age, will still benefit from the sensitivity and number of AF points available. So you do not NEED brand new lenses to take wide aperture photos. Just as you can get sharp photos at 1.2 on a 5DII, you can get them with the same lens on a 5DIII. If the lens had the new position feedback sensor it would just be EVEN MORE reliable.
All that said, I was going to get the 6D if the Ebay thing hadn't happened. It looks like a great all around camera for non-sport shooters, and you have that piece covered with yoru 7D.
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Just a note on the AF system - it is only the newer lenses that work with the closed loop feedback capability of the AF system. All lenses, regardless of age, will still benefit from the sensitivity and number of AF points available. So you do not NEED brand new lenses to take wide aperture photos. Just as you can get sharp photos at 1.2 on a 5DII, you can get them with the same lens on a 5DIII. If the lens had the new position feedback sensor it would just be EVEN MORE reliable.
All that said, I was going to get the 6D if the Ebay thing hadn't happened. It looks like a great all around camera for non-sport shooters, and you have that piece covered with yoru 7D.
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Jotho said:
Whilst we cannot comment on it image quality just yet it does have the following upgrades over the 5D MkII adding to the price of the MkII
Newer sensor delivering more MP and a much better ISO range (hopefully IQ qill be just as good as the MkII)
Newer updated rear screen.
GPS and Wifi
Better AF especially in low light than the MkII
For a price a little more than the MkII so lets hope the IQ is there and the 5D MkII 'lives on' in the 6D
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Many people, myself included, wrestled with or are wrestling with the same problem. I have a 7D but wanted to add FF body to my gear. Same reasons as you mentioned. I had heard rumors of a 5D II replacement for some time and waited. But then I saw the 5D II going cheaper than ever and bought it before it became discontinued. It a tried and tested camera and a classic. Its an honor just to own one! FF ability is all i wanted, and who cares about fancy extras? Its how you use it that counts!
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Generally speaking I would recommend a new 5DII while still available. The problem is that you are looking at full 600RT support. I don't think that's going to happen with the Mark II. not even sure if a firmware update could establish that. This may be an actual hardware limitation.
So that brings you to the Mark III...
So that brings you to the Mark III...
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I am actually in more or less the same boat as you are with a 7D, TS/E 17, EF 50 1.4, 24-105, and 70-200 IS MKI. I see a need for having a good FF with options to shoot some portraiture and landscapes with no immediate desire to shoot at high burst rate. I love the 1DX, but it will have to wait. So that leaves me with 5DI/II/III, 6D, or used 1DS if staying with Canon. However, with cheaper 35, 50 1.8 glasses from Nikon with the venerable 14-24, buying D600 looks like a good option, while not getting rid of any Canon gear - may be the 50. 6D just feels like lack of attention to details from Canon. Nikon also has intervalometer, bracketing for HDR that make D600 more interesting buy.
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If the 6D turns out to be as good as the specs indicate, then 5D3 would drop in price. I am not sure about the $2500 though!!
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philsv77 said:
How long will that take? 2 maybe 3 years??
Even then $2500 isn't exactly budget, you could have bought a 5D II for $1500 and put the extra towards some really good glass.
But let's all just wait and see how this 6D performs, with a digic 5+ processor and new CMOS sensor it should be a bit of alright I reckon.
It's getting a lot of flak because it doesn't have this thing or that thing. Most people who will buy it will be amateurs coming from a rebel or XXD and will already have a stack of SD cards and only use the center AF point anyway. Or stick with the 7D and just put the money towards a vacation! Just puttin it out there!
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Thanks to all for your suggestions and ideas.
I’m going to sit tight for a while and not purchase anything. I’m keeping my 7D since it’s worth much more to me than what I’d probably get for it. I’m trying to keep an open mind on the 6D, I’ll wait for sample images and reviews. I’ll give some time to see where the 5D3 prices go. Maybe over the holidays there will be another smoking deal like the Adorama eBay sale or maybe next year this rumored high MP camera will push the 5D3 down but I really doubt it will drop to or below $3000 for a very long time.
It’s frustrating because I’ve got money saved up to spend but Canon is not offering me anything that I’m willing to spend it on. IMO Canon really blew it on this 6D, all it really needs is a more advanced AF (more points, more crosses), and a 100% VF. I can choke down the SD only since it’s a low FPS camera. But looking at the whole picture, there are too many compromises and downgrades for me coming from a 7D. Canon offers the 5D3 for pro users, the 6D for beginners but nothing for us enthusiasts/hobbyists. The 5D3 is wonderful but it's more than I want to spend at $3500.
I’m going to sit tight for a while and not purchase anything. I’m keeping my 7D since it’s worth much more to me than what I’d probably get for it. I’m trying to keep an open mind on the 6D, I’ll wait for sample images and reviews. I’ll give some time to see where the 5D3 prices go. Maybe over the holidays there will be another smoking deal like the Adorama eBay sale or maybe next year this rumored high MP camera will push the 5D3 down but I really doubt it will drop to or below $3000 for a very long time.
It’s frustrating because I’ve got money saved up to spend but Canon is not offering me anything that I’m willing to spend it on. IMO Canon really blew it on this 6D, all it really needs is a more advanced AF (more points, more crosses), and a 100% VF. I can choke down the SD only since it’s a low FPS camera. But looking at the whole picture, there are too many compromises and downgrades for me coming from a 7D. Canon offers the 5D3 for pro users, the 6D for beginners but nothing for us enthusiasts/hobbyists. The 5D3 is wonderful but it's more than I want to spend at $3500.
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mrk 2 could be interesting, as if you are only using low iso's then it wont matter to yeah? mrk 3 is a nice camera.
imo, how about you try renting out a few bodies, for a day or however long you feel and then you make a decision like that? because I feel that buying camera bodies is sometimes like buying speakers. you can read 10000000 reviews but you gotta hear it (or in this case try it out)
have you done this at all yet??
imo, how about you try renting out a few bodies, for a day or however long you feel and then you make a decision like that? because I feel that buying camera bodies is sometimes like buying speakers. you can read 10000000 reviews but you gotta hear it (or in this case try it out)
have you done this at all yet??
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