Cancelled 1dx pre order.

[bdunbar79]

You are probably right bdunbar79 about what to sell. I shoot mostly birds/wildlife and need the crop factor for some better reach. The 1D IV is my first 1-Series body and I'm hooked. Gripped anything else is not the same and the next body will be a 1-Series something. I'm in no rush and want to make the best decision with the least amount of compromises.

Oh I understand. Duh, you need the reach. Yeah in that case the 7D is a good choice. Wow, you'll have a difficult decision to make!

 

[Chewy734]

Mine arrived from B&H this past Tuesday.

Neuro, I'm curious what your initial impressions are with the beast?

 

[TAF]

but I just cant stand canons arrogance and treating me like this where I already paid full for this sucker (( Its just not fair.. and CPS reps are not much fun to deal with neither... such a crap

Canon has no particular love for their smaller dealers, either.

I have a local guy who I buy from (when I'm not in a hurry) because I like to help out a local business...especially since he always has chemicals and paper in stock (yes, I still use actual film for some things). I asked him to order me a short 40 a couple of weeks ago. It's still not in - and he has no idea when it will be.

So don't take it personally; they mistreat everybody.

 

[Bosman]

I have a 1dm3, 5Dc, and 5DM3. I could do without the 10fps 1dm3 and i shoot sports and weddings. The 1dx is overkill to me. Its killer in every way but it isn't going to give me an edge i don't get with the 5dm3. Shoot if i could afford the 1dx id go 2-5dm3's. Way better way to go in my opinion. My shooting style is more refined these days so the 10fps for sports is not really important anymore. Still, i am happy for the 1dx owners.

 

[RunAndGun]

I don't get it.
Why are people comparing the 5D3 to the 1DX?
They're not made to be in the same league.
Shouldn't you compare the 1DX to the D4 instead?
The fact that the 1DX IS 2X the price of a 5D3, it has got to be better..it's made by the same manufacturer so definately they would want their flagship model to be better than it's junior.
But is it 2x better? I really don't think so.
Being a flagship model, it has to be the best in the entire range so if you can afford it, go for it. If you need it, go for it.
If you don't know if you want it, chances are you don't need it.

I'm just happy that it isn't 2x better, it just makes my 5D3 feel more "worthwhile" although it is still expensive.

It is not that difficult for me to understand why people are comparing 5d3 to 1dx. My take:
5d3 comes out and works very well. Then 1dx comes out (costs a lot more) so everyone wants to see how better it is to 5d3 for the money.

I guess it is not being compared to 1D4 as that camera's life cycle is over and 5d3 is current. Compare current cameras...

The poster above you was referring to the Nikon D4, their new flagship pro body, NOT the Canon 1Dmk4.

 

[sanj]

sanji wrote:

I guess it is not being compared to 1D4

If you look closer at the chart and click the down arrow beside the box that says "5D III", you will see a list of all canon camera models to compare the 1Dx to. The test refered to in the link is not a lens test but a test of sharpness/IQ using a standard lens (Canon 200mm f2) with the only variable in the test being the camera body.

The comparison of the 1Dx and the 5d III indicates(to my eyes) that the 5d III produces slightly sharper images with the standard test lens and the reviewer states that in his review. He even states that the 1Ds III and the 1D IV are comparable, with the 1D IV edging out the 1Ds III. BTW, the 1D IV was released at the same time as the 7D. The review also went on to state that the ISO performance of the 1Dx is better than the 5D III, 1D IV and 1Ds III. Maybe 2/3 to 1 stop better.

When the 1Dx was announced last fall, I was ready to buy. When the 5D III appeared, I questioned my decision to get the 1Dx and asked myself, "why wasn't the 22mp sensor in the 1Dx"? When I saw these tests and read other tests in the past few days from real world photographers, I've decided to adopt a "wait and see" approach. I'm not doubting that the 1Dx is a superb and capable camera, but I'm not convinced, right now, that it is $3000 more of a camera than the 5D III, Sure the 1Dx has a better metering system, faster fps, more customization, ID body, etc, but I'm not completely convinced to pay the extra $3k at this time. I'm sure I'll get lots of "what are you talking about" responses to my statement.

Very well put.

I think what I'm going to do is buy the 5D III and use it for a year and wait for the dust to settle on the 1Dx and see what else Canon may announce in the 1-Series FF body. The 5D III will compliment my new 1D IV nicely and my 7D. In a year, I can sell the 5D III(or the 1D IV/7D), and get the 1Dx or whatever Canon may announce.

 

[sanj]

Besides the tests are a 100% crop. So the difference would be much less in full size photos.

But still confused..

 

[briansquibb]

The comparison of the 1Dx and the 5d III indicates(to my eyes) that the 5d III produces slightly sharper images with the standard test lens and the reviewer states that in his review. He even states that the 1Ds III and the 1D IV are comparable, with the 1D IV edging out the 1Ds III. BTW, the 1D IV was released at the same time as the 7D. The review also went on to state that the ISO performance of the 1Dx is better than the 5D III, 1D IV and 1Ds III. Maybe 2/3 to 1 stop better.

If that what was said then I would suggest the reviewer's conclusions do not match the real world

Upto iso 400 - the 1D4 does not give a comparable image to the 1Ds3. The 1DS3 wins hands down. No noise on the 1DS3 upto iso 200 - quite astonishing as is the contrast and colour rendition.

The 1DS3 only goes to iso1600 so to compare iso performance is meaningless

 

[HarryWintergreen]

supposed 5DIIi and 1D X had identical IQ, would this rid you of the urge to have the 1D X? If the answer is yes then you definitely do not need the 1D X.

 

[sanj]

supposed 5DIIi and 1D X had identical IQ, would this rid you of the urge to have the 1D X? If the answer is yes then you definitely do not need the 1D X.

Well yeah I was expecting better IQ right from ISO 100 till 3200. (Beyond that I think the noise is bit much for me in any camera currently.)

But of course there are other things also I was lusting for. But if the first and foremost criteria is not fulfilled, the rest do not justify the extra $3000.

My other thought is to sell the 5d3 and buy the 1dx instead. The catch for me is that I run a small camera rental business for students that make shorts on video and they rent my 5d3.

 

[briansquibb]

My other thought is to sell the 5d3 and buy the 1dx instead. The catch for me is that I run a small camera rental business for students that make shorts on video and they rent my 5d3.

There are other bodies that can make good videos - 7D, 1D4, 5DII - why not get two of these and make more money?

 

[sanj]

I know! But the strange thing in rental is that EVERYONE wants the latest!!! As soon as 5d3 came out, no one wants the 5d2. Strange but true!!!!

In any case the camera goes out maximum 8-10 days a month and that does not warrant more than one body.

Btw if you curious, the lens most in demand is my 24 ts and then comes the 70-200.

 

[briansquibb]

I know! But the strange thing in rental is that EVERYONE wants the latest!!! As soon as 5d3 came out, no one wants the 5d2. Strange but true!!!!

In any case the camera goes out maximum 8-10 days a month and that does not warrant more than one body.

Btw if you curious, the lens most in demand is my 24 ts and then comes the 70-200.

I use the 24ts as my wa

The 70-200 f/2.8II is my general purpose/walkabout lens on ff

 

[Dylan777]

I don't get this:

I canceled my B&H order and if I did not cancel it I would have my 1DX in my hands since I did place my order as soon as it was available... but I am pissed at canon and Abes of Maine for screwing me like this.

Are Canon and Abe's of Maine to blame for you choosing to cancel your order with B&H? Mine arrived from B&H this past Tuesday.

Hi Neuro,
Let us know how you like it

 

[JR]

You hoo! I am geeting my 1DX on Monday! Just shipped today! Boy oh boy I cant wait!

 

[Loswr]

Hi Neuro,
Let us know how you like it

Limited use so far, but love it, love it, love it. Build is great, customization is extensive, responsiveness is amazing. Shot some ISO tests, with no NR it's definitely a full stop better than the 5DII, probably a little more than that. Exposures are very, very consistent, AF performance is great.

Heading out to shoot a concert tonight, looking forward to it!

 

[sanj]

Hi Neuro,
Let us know how you like it

Limited use so far, but love it, love it, love it. Build is great, customization is extensive, responsiveness is amazing. Shot some ISO tests, with no NR it's definitely a full stop better than the 5DII, probably a little more than that. Exposures are very, very consistent, AF performance is great.

Heading out to shoot a concert tonight, looking forward to it!

Congrats! Would love to see some photos..

 

[jlev23]

my two cents...i havent read or posted in a few months, mainly because ive been too busy and was tired of all the negatively.
i was nervous about my 5d3 purchase, like you are with your 1D purchase. mainly because i mostly shoot with an epic or an alexa, but more and more id get a treatment and it starts off with "this is a 5D job"
so i finally got one, looking back on the past few moths im so happy i did. the entire pkg has already paid for itself, financially and creatively. i shoot mainly commercials, and more recently in the past couple of years the clients have me do the products shots on stills, but as well, i have jumped on a few short film projects because i could, because i had a camera pkg. i wouldnt change my purchase for anything.
so in my opinion, which ever camera fits the work you do, the sooner you get it, the sooner it will pay off!

 

[victorwol]

Hi Neuro,
Let us know how you like it

Limited use so far, but love it, love it, love it. Build is great, customization is extensive, responsiveness is amazing. Shot some ISO tests, with no NR it's definitely a full stop better than the 5DII, probably a little more than that. Exposures are very, very consistent, AF performance is great.

Heading out to shoot a concert tonight, looking forward to it!

You mean better than the 5D III ???

 

[victorwol]

my two cents...i havent read or posted in a few months, mainly because ive been too busy and was tired of all the negatively.
i was nervous about my 5d3 purchase, like you are with your 1D purchase. mainly because i mostly shoot with an epic or an alexa, but more and more id get a treatment and it starts off with "this is a 5D job"
so i finally got one, looking back on the past few moths im so happy i did. the entire pkg has already paid for itself, financially and creatively. i shoot mainly commercials, and more recently in the past couple of years the clients have me do the products shots on stills, but as well, i have jumped on a few short film projects because i could, because i had a camera pkg. i wouldnt change my purchase for anything.
so in my opinion, which ever camera fits the work you do, the sooner you get it, the sooner it will pay off!

Good point! But let's not forget about the person behind the camera too.... It makes a difference. You have no idea how much stuff from Alexa's and Epics I have received that is a disaster. Users sometimes believe as it is a camera with a good dynamic range and RAW codec that they canmoightbthe scene with a flashlight and we can fix it in post