Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??

[smirkypants]

I have found the 1d4 a little limited with the 16mp against the 5d/1ds3 21mp.

Personally I think that the more mp the better providing the DR and noise isn't compromised. I dont even care how Canon does it - the only important thing is that the sensor delivers.

I have consistently found for the photography that I do, that on sunny days my 7D with 1.6 crop & 18MP produces better results than the 1D4 with a 1.3 crop and 16MP.

There's no reason why Canon can't put out a great crop sensor. According to dxomark.com the second best overal dynamic range score is achieved by the lowly D7000 and its crop sensor, which can be had for just over $1000. The 7D is 46th. It also beats the 5D2 (and kills the 7D) in overall image quality. It takes great pictures and it's a crop.

The 7D2 should be a fantastic camera.

 

[AprilForever]

Just to really drive the point home (and no doubt gather up some more bad Karma from the Flat Earthers who persist with this unsupportable belief...)

What's the russian website link?

 

[briansquibb]

Who cares? HTe 7D mk ii will cost a whole lot, way too much imao, and not deliver a whole lot more than the underpowered original.

mmmmm - had a go at the 5DII in another thread saying 7D was as good as

this thread having a go at the 7d

You must be a troll

 

[briansquibb]

Who cares? HTe 7D mk ii will cost a whole lot, way too much imao, and not deliver a whole lot more than the underpowered original.

mmmmm - had a go at the 5DII in another thread saying 7D was as good as

this thread having a go at the 7d

You must be a troll

So you think calling me a trol;l is goind to solve your problems? Insulting another forum member is nver the way to go! That is a mena thing to do to another person cbecaise it can hut hteir feelings!

 

[takoman46]

Who cares? HTe 7D mk ii will cost a whole lot, way too much imao, and not deliver a whole lot more than the underpowered original.

mmmmm - had a go at the 5DII in another thread saying 7D was as good as

this thread having a go at the 7d

You must be a troll

So you think calling me a trol;l is goind to solve your problems? Insulting another forum member is nver the way to go! That is a mena thing to do to another person cbecaise it can hut hteir feelings!

Idont eve know what your weird faces mean. They dont cummunicate wto me. But I am actually trying to make a poitn: this is what the 5 D people are sayong all the time about the u7D. And it is just as ridiulous as you said it was. The 7D is probably the best camera in canon's lineup in son many wayts that it is crazy that people think the 5d is so much better.

Ardea, calm down lol. Does it offend you that the 7D is subpar to the 5DmkII? It shouldn't offend you at all because after all... the 5D line is higher than the 7D line. So it makes perfect sense for Canon to pack more punch into the 5D lien than the 7D line. For the record, your claim that "the 7D is probably the best camera in canon's lineup" is quite ridiculous. If the 7D were hands down the best camera, then why would people buy the 5D and 1D cameras? Also, why would I have bought and used both the 5DmkII and 7D and conclude that the 5DmkII produces much better results than the 7D? My opinion is not biased so chill out. You sound like you have a lot of pride in your 7D and I agree it is a nice camera in its own right but is not better than the higher FF models for obvious reasons.

 

[funkboy]

...and yet another thread starts out interesting & descends into useless drivel after the first few pages...

 

[unfocused]

...and yet another thread starts out interesting & descends into useless drivel after the first few pages...

So true...so so very very true.

 

[AprilForever]

...and yet another thread starts out interesting & descends into useless drivel after the first few pages...

So true...so so very very true.

This happens on every thing. Even on facebook; it seems I cannot post something but that within about five posts someone completely derails the discussion, usually a family member who grew up before the internet and has no concept of the rules and ettiquette thereof.

 

[stilscream]

Who cares? HTe 7D mk ii will cost a whole lot, way too much imao, and not deliver a whole lot more than the underpowered original.

mmmmm - had a go at the 5DII in another thread saying 7D was as good as

this thread having a go at the 7d

You must be a troll

So you think calling me a trol;l is goind to solve your problems? Insulting another forum member is nver the way to go! That is a mena thing to do to another person cbecaise it can hut hteir feelings!

Idont eve know what your weird faces mean. They dont cummunicate wto me. But I am actually trying to make a poitn: this is what the 5 D people are sayong all the time about the u7D. And it is just as ridiulous as you said it was. The 7D is probably the best camera in canon's lineup in son many wayts that it is crazy that people think the 5d is so much better.

Ardea, the faces of puzzlment are probably because from the various typos in all your posts make it look like you were typing with your penis instead of your fingers.

 

[nicku]

ok , let's go back to the original topic.

5D3 solid and authentic rumors started to came out about 3-4 months before the actual release date. Not even a CR1 regarding 7D replacement.... so, judging by this pattern 7Dmk2 will be released no earlyer than Photokina or winter 2012/2013.


My guess regarding Canon on Photokina:

releases:

- 7Dmk2
- a megapixels monster DSLR
- a 4k DSLR

 

[briansquibb]

ok , let's go back to the original topic.

5D3 solid and authentic rumors started to came out about 3-4 months before the actual release date. Not even a CR1 regarding 7D replacement.... so, judging by this pattern 7Dmk2 will be released no earlyer than Photokina or winter 2012/2013.

I hope they stick to 18mp and concentrate on IQ, DR and noise and upgrade the AF/metering to more pro standards

 

[David KM]

ok , let's go back to the original topic.

5D3 solid and authentic rumors started to came out about 3-4 months before the actual release date. Not even a CR1 regarding 7D replacement.... so, judging by this pattern 7Dmk2 will be released no earlyer than Photokina or winter 2012/2013.

I hope they stick to 18mp and concentrate on IQ, DR and noise and upgrade the AF/metering to more pro standards

+1 to that !!!! I love my 7D more than the mkII but I'm not blind to the poor noise. 18mp is perfect for me.

 

[weixing]

Hi,
7D2 is actually very easy to design... just get the 5D3, replace the FF sensor with a 18MP - 22MP crop sensor and increase to 8fps! That's it and I'm prepare to upgrade from my 60D... ;D

Have a nice day.

 

[kdsand]

Who cares? HTe 7D mk ii will cost a whole lot, way too much imao, and not deliver a whole lot more than the underpowered original.

mmmmm - had a go at the 5DII in another thread saying 7D was as good as

this thread having a go at the 7d

You must be a troll

So you think calling me a trol;l is goind to solve your problems? Insulting another forum member is nver the way to go! That is a mena thing to do to another person cbecaise it can hut hteir feelings!

Idont eve know what your weird faces mean. They dont cummunicate wto me. But I am actually trying to make a poitn: this is what the 5 D people are sayong all the time about the u7D. And it is just as ridiulous as you said it was. The 7D is probably the best camera in canon's lineup in son many wayts that it is crazy that people think the 5d is so much better.

Ardea, the faces of puzzlment are probably because from the various typos in all your posts make it look like you were typing with your penis instead of your fingers.

Ha ha ha ha ha!
Lol!

 

[NoWii]

Isn't there enough of a fight between canon and nikon users? Why do you have to argue between canon models?

 

[unfocused]

Dang! We were so close to getting this thread back on track.

Well...the topic has probably pretty much played itself out, but just one general thought:

It seems like the 5DIII is all about the autofocus quality with some modest sensor improvements. (all else being just gravy)

I'm hoping the 7DII will be all about the sensor quality with some modest autofocus improvements. (all else being just gravy)

 

[skitron]

IMO they most certainly will have a successor to the 7D. Maybe they call it something else, but bottom line is they aren't going to leave a gaping hole in the price tiers between the current $1K xxD and the $3.5K 5D3.

And I suspect they aren't going to try to fill that hole more than thru year end with the existing 7D and 5D2.

They could kick up the ISO a stop, do a pair of Digic 5, an articulated/improved screen, add audio level control in the firmware and charge $2.5K for 7D2 all day long the way prices work these days.

 

[x-vision]

Canon slotted the 60D perfectly in-between the Rebels and the 7D.
Yet, the 60D is perceived as a super-Rebel and Canon is forced to sell it at Rebel prices.

To change that, Canon will likely spec the 70D better ... which will make it very close (identical?) to the 7D.

The only way I could see Canon having both 70D and 7DII in their lineup is if they put a different sensor in the 7DII.
Some new 1.6x sensor, with better low-light abilities than the sensor(s) in the next-gen Rebels and the 70D.

It's quite unlikely, though, that Canon will make a special sensor just for the 7DII.
More likely the 7D line will just be discontinued.

 

[kaihp]

Canon slotted the 60D perfectly in-between the Rebels and the 7D.
Yet, the 60D is perceived as a super-Rebel and Canon is forced to sell it at Rebel prices.

To change that, Canon will likely spec the 70D better ... which will make it very close (identical?) to the 7D.

So ... you're saying that Canon will push the xxD line back up to around where it was was BEFORE they introduced the 60D?

The 60D was deliverately pushed down in the lineup to make a bigger difference between the 7D and the xxD line (compare the bodies of 50D with the 60D if you're in doubt), so I would doubt that Canon would reinstate the xxD line to where it was before. Personally, I consider a 7D2 (or whatever they'll end up calling it) to be more likely.

But we can definitely agree that there's a hole between the (Super) Rebels and the 5D's at the moment. As I see it, it is obvious that Canon will fill that hole with "something" - and right now we're calling that "something" 7D2. I don't see Canon pushing a "70D" upwards.

I have a 50D and would be looking to buy such a 7D2 body - I don't have the urge to pay for a FF sensor - an APS-C sensor is just fine, thank you. Since I shoot a lot of motorcycle track riding/racing, an upgraded 7D along the lines that has been suggested in this thread, would be close to perfect for me: I'm looking for a better AF system than I have now, better high-ISO performance and better IQ (neither the 50D nor the 7D images looks really sharp and crisp to me). No Mpix monster either, please - I have enough "bit-weights" on my hard drive(s). I rarely use full-auto, so the actual fps doesn't matter that much for me (8fps is fine), but the 7D feels much more 'snappy' than my 50D.

It's quite unlikely, though, that Canon will make a special sensor just for the 7DII.
More likely the 7D line will just be discontinued.

Depends on what you mean by "a special sensor". If you're thinking an APS-H type sensor, I agree.
But I would be very surprised if they didn't make a new sensor at all for a 7D2.

 

[x-vision]

I don't see Canon pushing a "70D" upwards.

This is where we differ. I believe they will.

Depends on what you mean by "a special sensor".

Right now Canon is using the same 18mp sensor for the Rebels, the 60D, and the 7D.
By a "a special sensor" for the 7DII I meant a sensor used exlcusively in the 7DII.

For example, let's say Canon puts a new 22mp sensor in the 70D and also in the next-gen Rebels - the same way as today.
Let's also say that they move the 70D upwards in terms of specs and price.
In this case I see no room in the lineup for a 22mp 7DII, as the 7DII would be basically identical to the 70D.

However, if Canon puts a 16mp sensor in the 7DII (or a 28mp sensor), then the 7D line might continue.

The point is, the 7DII sensor has to be different from the 70D and the Rebels for the 7D line to continue.
Otherwise, I don't see Canon keeping the 7D line in the lineup.