Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??

[Deleted member 42026]

The 7D has been fantastic to me. Its reliable, its fast, its relatively weather sealed (a must for me) and the most important bit, I have been making and continue to make very good shots from it.

If a new model comes out, I hope beyond hope it remains 8 frames per second. Gets dual digic 5 processors and a little more iso capability (clean iso that is), plus not making the cost skyrocket. That would be enough for me and if I haven't upgraded to a 1d mark iv as a second body by then, I'd buy a mark ii 7d.

Im not holding my breath a 7d mark ii will be anytime soon though. I don't need it yet, thats for sure.

 

[AprilForever]

If they make the 7D mk ii full frame, and sell it for 2500, there will have to be a reason they are selling it for 2500. A FF Camera, at 8FPS, with weather sealing and fast AF, is nearly a 1DX. It is sheer madness to assume canon would make a full frame camera with the 7D's abilities, and sell it for less than the 5D III (at 6 FPS... with its epic AF). Seriously, understand what you are asking for. Want budget Full Frame? Go film! Want budget full frame digital? Get a 5 D mk II!!!!

Seriously, the 7D only makes sense at APS-C. Anything else is loses focus of the purpose of the 7D.

 

[D_Rochat]

I want a 7DII for $2000 with the following specs

Full Frame
18.1MP
Dual DIGIC 5+ – 17 Times The Processing Power of DIGIC 4
ISO 100-51200 Native
100,000 Pixel RGB Metering Sensor
EOS iSA (Intelligent Subject Analysis)
61 Point AF
21 f/5.6 Cross Type Sensors
20 f/4 Cross Type Sensors
5 f/2.8 Cross Type Senors
EOS iTR AF (Intelligent Tracking & Recognition Auto Focus)
12 Frames Per Second
14 Frames Per Second JPG Only
400,000 Shot Rated Shutter
Ethernet Connection

It would be unreasonable for Canon not to deliver

 

[DHL1313]

I'll take 2 LOL 8)

 

[!Xabbu]

Any idea when it will come out the 7DII?

Not sooner than Canon figures out how to squeeze another body in their lineup between the 5d2, 5d3 and 60d - now that the 5d3 has an advanced af, too, there really has to be something new for the 7d2 - either never heard of before features or a much lower price tag, but that would collide with the 60d/70d.

I have read this multiple times now and don't really understand why there shouldn't be room for an upgraded 7D. The way I see it, there is

• 1D X for about USD 7,000 for the professional sports photographer with pro AF, insane FPS, ...
• 5D III for about USD 3,500 for the professional who doesn't need the FPS of the 1D
• 5D II for about USD 2,100 for the landscape and studio photographer, with stone age AF, but stellar IQ
• 7D for about USD 1,300 for those photographers, who want good AF, high FPS, but can't afford the 5D III or a 1D
• 60D for about USD 1,000 with better AF than 5D II, more FPS than 5D II and same IQ as 7D for people on a budget

So, to me it feels like there is a huge gap between 5D III and 7D, which is not really filled by the 5D II for many people. I think a 7D II with an improved sensor, Digic V, about the same FPS for USD 2,000-2,500 would fit in pretty well. Then there would be room for a 70D with improved AF, slightly increased FPS (back to 6.3 or so) and the new sensor for USD 1,500-1,800.

 

[Ew]

If noise was usable at 3200-6400, and no other changes, I'd swap today.
Additional SD card would be nice for live backup.

 

[ruuneos]

Once again I check current price's and noticed this: both 7D and 60D got "Replacement: 6 months" so are we going to see combination of those?

 

[D_Rochat]

I see room for a 7Dii provided it'll have

dual card slot (sdx / CF)
dual Digic 5
APS-C @ 21-22MP
Better hi-ISO performance (hi ISO standard @ 25600)
8FPS
USB3
built-in GPS


Same current 7D price

doubtful it will have 2 card slots and still be at a similar price. Also doubtful that it would have such a high native iso, doubtful it would have usb3 - and please no gps, i have enough things tracking my location and movements anyways, no need at all for my camera to do it too.

I would much rather have some smart evolutionary changes - same iso range, but improved quality in the 3200-6400 range (I just don't see the point in taking it any higher unless the the noise quality can be improved).

All in all the current 7D is a pretty solid camera, improve on its shortcomings and canon has a winner. Toss in a bunch of garbage new stuff without fixing the shortcomings and its just a marketing tool...

GPS on the 7D would be huge.
Sports, street, landscape and nature shooters would love it. It would be a notable selling point 4 many people.
When you would not want to use it you can always turn it off so that really should not be a concern.

:-\ Besides most photos taken out doors can often have the location backtracked already even without gps identification.

Unfortunately(?) as we know canon has a brand new external gps module. Building the gps into a 7D body is unlikely given that they can sell you the separate module. This is unfortunate and shame though because the 7 d is a camera that you don't really wanna have a lot of stuff sticking out of because it's often used in ruffer environments or conditions where it gets jostled. If its built in you don't have to worry about forgetting to turn it on or about the battery dieing or any number of other things.

Don't hold your breath on built in GPS in the xD line. There are areas that photographers work that prohibits GPS. Prohibited GPS + built in GPS = no access. That's why you get the option for external GPS.

 

[Marsu42]

Don't hold your breath on built in GPS in the xD line. There are areas that photographers work that prohibits GPS. Prohibited GPS + built in GPS = no access. That's why you get the option for external GPS.

But it would be nice to have built-in bluetooth for gps devices (mobile phone, gps logger) instead of some obscure proprietary connector or a flash-shoe mounted device. A bluetooth chip certainly could be included in a body of that size and price - and shouldn't raise any security concerns, or would it?

 

[D_Rochat]

I don't see how some sort of wireless function (with very limited range) would pose a security risk on a camera. Building an external wireless GPS unit would be beneficial. Why they don't do that? Don't know. Expect a jaw dropping price tag if they ever do.

 

[Marsu42]

Expect a jaw dropping price tag if they ever do.

Looking at the latest Canon releases, I'd expect a jaw dropping price for each and every part that has "Canon" on it, including plastic lens hoods :-o ... I really hope mirrorless and Sony/Nikon do kick Canon's a** to move their semi-pro/amateur line into some affordable regions without hidden annoyances all the way.

 

[Tracy Pinto]

I'm not sure why anyone would cheer for Canon not to update the 7D. It is three years old and there are features that would improve it. Nikon's D7000 is a terrific camera that sells for hundreds less.

For those that prefer the reach it offers, it would be great to achieve improved DR, better IQ and some minor refinements/additions to bring the camera closer to the new ff siblings. This will not only make the product line stronger but also offer more choices for a natural progression up the product line. The Rebels make great DSLR entry choices and I see them everywhere. The XXD is the perfect hobbyist/amateur choice. The 7D is and can remain, with an updating, the perfect bridge to the pro-lines found in the ffs. The 7D is already v.good but it can be better still (if the pricing is kept under control) to attract more waves of pro-sumers.

 

[Marsu42]

Nikon's D7000 is a terrific camera that sells for hundreds less.

I guess that's just the point: Is there a large enough market for the most expensive aps-c body on the block when in the tech department the ff 5d3 has outclassed it? The price tag of the xxd or Nikon might be more in line with the ef-s or dx lenses used for them.

 

[Tracy Pinto]

Nikon's D7000 is a terrific camera that sells for hundreds less.

I guess that's just the point: Is there a large enough market for the most expensive aps-c body on the block when in the tech department the ff 5d3 has outclassed it? The price tag of the xxd or Nikon might be more in line with the ef-s or dx lenses used for them.

The 5D Mark III is $3,500 - that creates plenty of pricing room for a lesser, but still great, model at a fair price with a smaller sensor.

 

[Marsu42]

The 5D Mark III is $3,500 - that creates plenty of pricing room for a lesser, but still great, model at a fair price with a smaller sensor.

Room - yes. Market - maybe not. Of course the 5d3 will drop some (Nikon D800 anyone?), so let's assume $3000. I don't think Canon marketing divides the price scale into equal pieces and puts out a model for each of them, but they'll look for customer groups like "entry level dslr" xxxd, "amateur/pro on a budget" xxd, "full frame entry" 5d2/successor, "rich amateur or pro that doesn't need the 1dx" 5d3. Where's the 7d2 in this?

But of course that's all pure speculation, that's the great thing about threads like these - it's hard to take them seriously. So: If there's already a super rebel xxd, why would there be the need for a giga rebel 7d2 ?

 

[AnselA]

The 5D Mark III is $3,500 - that creates plenty of pricing room for a lesser, but still great, model at a fair price with a smaller sensor.

Room - yes. Market - maybe not. Of course the 5d3 will drop some (Nikon D800 anyone?), so let's assume $3000. I don't think Canon marketing divides the price scale into equal pieces and puts out a model for each of them, but they'll look for customer groups like "entry level dslr" xxxd, "amateur/pro on a budget" xxd, "full frame entry" 5d2/successor, "rich amateur or pro that doesn't need the 1dx" 5d3. Where's the 7d2 in this?

But of course that's all pure speculation, that's the great thing about threads like these - it's hard to take them seriously. So: If there's already a super rebel xxd, why would there be the need for a giga rebel 7d2 ?

You do know the "prosumer" 7D is still a very well selling model and that the Nikon D7000 is a hit.
That is what is known as a market and they both compete for it.

Canon, unlike you, will not yield any key market to Nikon. From the XXD (amateur/hobbyist) around $1200 to the 5D Mark III at $3,500 ( yes the price could come down or Nikon could raise theirs on the D800) there is just too much space (The 5D Mark II will necessarily be discontinued). Even if the XXD went up in price and the 5 D Mark III down, as you dream, the gap is still huge and many "prosumer" photographers can't jump it yet still want the latest features. Moving feature and specs to lesser models is the best method to keep buyers within the brand and upgrading to new gear.

 

[dlleno]

The 5D Mark III is $3,500 - that creates plenty of pricing room for a lesser, but still great, model at a fair price with a smaller sensor.

Room - yes. Market - maybe not. Of course the 5d3 will drop some (Nikon D800 anyone?), so let's assume $3000. I don't think Canon marketing divides the price scale into equal pieces and puts out a model for each of them, but they'll look for customer groups like "entry level dslr" xxxd, "amateur/pro on a budget" xxd, "full frame entry" 5d2/successor, "rich amateur or pro that doesn't need the 1dx" 5d3. Where's the 7d2 in this?

But of course that's all pure speculation, that's the great thing about threads like these - it's hard to take them seriously. So: If there's already a super rebel xxd, why would there be the need for a giga rebel 7d2 ?

In my view, the market is for a "better than the xxd" upper-end 1.6 with high fps and BIF abilities, high shutter count, etc. with IQ improvements over the 7D. maybe in the $2K region. That's where the 7D series should be. Discontinue the xxd series. keep the rebels

 

[JR]

I agree with the theory of making less model in the lineup and making each one of them richer in features to cater to a larger base of customer. Unfortunately, Canon is showing us with all the recent announcement they are not going this way...so dont expect rationalization of models like the 60D anytime soon I think.

my two cents..

 

[ScottyP]

Nikon's D7000 is a terrific camera that sells for hundreds less.

I guess that's just the point: Is there a large enough market for the most expensive aps-c body on the block when in the tech department the ff 5d3 has outclassed it? The price tag of the xxd or Nikon might be more in line with the ef-s or dx lenses used for them.

The 5D Mark III is $3,500 - that creates plenty of pricing room for a lesser, but still great, model at a fair price with a smaller sensor.

Yes. Believe it or not, the 1.6 crop factor basically is THE thing many prosumers/enthusiasts want. Telephoto lenses are very, very expensive, and are something many non-pro photographers would not want to spend 7 thousand dollars on. ESPECIALLY if they had to buy the expensive telephoto JUST to recover length they lost by being FORCED to go full frame because your brand inexplicably quit making a high-quality crop body. Yes, you could enhance sensor resolution to allow for mightier and mightier crops in post, but who in the world would really want to photograph birds the size of a pepper flake in the viewfinder, even if they could actually go home and crop it up to fill the frame?
If you don't have a high-quality crop frame available that a prosumer can "aspire to", then you lose out on a large and high-spending customer base. Just cast them aside and give them to Nikon. Or Sony.

 

[V8Beast]

Any chance that the APS-H format sensor resurfaces in the 7D Mark II? That would be badass