Canon 80D RAW files available for download. DR improved.

[PhotographyFirst]

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-80d/canon-80dA7.HTM

Someone over at FM analyzed the files and found the low ISO DR is far better than the 7D2.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1419472

 

[midluk]

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-80d/canon-80dA7.HTM

Someone over at FM analyzed the files and found the low ISO DR is far better than the 7D2.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1419472

Make sure you put on your GAS mask before going there

 

[Sharlin]

A bit worried about the reported less-than-impressive high ISO performance. To my uses that's more important than low-ISO latitude. Probably understandable though given that this is basically first-gen tech.

Edit: pretty conflicting reports, others seem to find the noise to be at 7D2 levels (which is nice given the higher resolution).

 

[nhz]

A bit worried about the reported less-than-impressive high ISO performance. To my uses that's more important than low-ISO latitude. Probably understandable though given that this is basically first-gen tech.

Edit: pretty conflicting reports, others seem to find the noise to be at 7D2 levels (which is nice given the higher resolution).

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

 

[Sharlin]

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

Yeah, true. But it doesn't help with my dilemma of whether my next body should be the 7D2 or the 80D

 

[tlieser]

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

Yeah, true. But it doesn't help with my dilemma of whether my next body should be the 7D2 or the 80D

You're not the only one. One thing is sure: 7DMK2 has the better ergonomics. Esp. if you have large hands (like I do). And 2 card slots (even if they are mixed).
I'm gnawing my fingers trying to come up with a decision.
(I don't need the tilt screen, I don't need 24MPix, but I want a camera that is as easy to handle as my old 50D)

 

[kaptainkatsu]

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

Yeah, true. But it doesn't help with my dilemma of whether my next body should be the 7D2 or the 80D

Also depends if you need speed. The 7D2 is unbelievable for Sports if you can't afford a 1DX.

 

[RickWagoner]

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

Yeah, true. But it doesn't help with my dilemma of whether my next body should be the 7D2 or the 80D

It depends on how fast do you need the next body and how long you will keep it. The 7d3 will be out next year with an improved 80D sensor and much better NR like the 7d2 has over the 70D. The 7d3 will be more feature loaded with 4k video, greater buffer size, 1dx2 focus, wifi and maybe touchscreen also. If you can wait till next year then the $1200 you save can get you more further than it would today. If you do need it sooner then wait or look around for a 7d2 with a printer deal around $1100, once the D500 starts shipping (if and when that actually happens) the 7d2 will see some nice sales as the demand for the body is already low now and will get much worse when the D500 hits the streets.

 

[verysimplejason]

Looks promising. A slight trade-off in extreme High ISO performance for much better low ISO DR makes perfect sense for a camera like 80D.

Yeah, true. But it doesn't help with my dilemma of whether my next body should be the 7D2 or the 80D

It depends on how fast do you need the next body and how long you will keep it. The 7d3 will be out next year with an improved 80D sensor and much better NR like the 7d2 has over the 70D. The 7d3 will be more feature loaded with 4k video, greater buffer size, 1dx2 focus, wifi and maybe touchscreen also. If you can wait till next year then the $1200 you save can get you more further than it would today. If you do need it sooner then wait or look around for a 7d2 with a printer deal around $1100, once the D500 starts shipping (if and when that actually happens) the 7d2 will see some nice sales as the demand for the body is already low now and will get much worse when the D500 hits the streets.

+1. Waiting until you really need one doesn't hurt.

 

[verysimplejason]

Hmmm... the sensor seems like it's behaving like a Sony based on the graphs provided in the other forum.

 

[LSXPhotog]

Pushing/pulling 100 ISO RAW files 5 stops in each direction shows zero degradation of the file. Hmmm, that is actually a freakishly good performance versus a 5D3, 7D2, and 6D. I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

 

[JohanCruyff]

I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

If the gap between Sony and Canon has been significantly reduced, I'm sure DXO will do the usual test as soon as possible

(I mean: April 2019) ;D

 

[rrcphoto]

I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

If the gap between Sony and Canon has been significantly reduced, I'm sure DXO will do the usual test as soon as possible

(I mean: April 2020) ;D

fixed.

 

[Sharlin]

Hmmm... the sensor seems like it's behaving like a Sony based on the graphs provided in the other forum.

It's just behaving like a sensor that is no longer read noise limited at low ISOs, and consequently the graph is close to that of an ideal, photon-shot-noise limited sensor. This is what people hoped for, but not very strong evidence that the sensor is actually Sony technology if that's what you implied.

 

[H. Jones]

I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

If the gap between Sony and Canon has been significantly reduced, I'm sure DXO will do the usual test as soon as possible

(I mean: April 2020) ;D

fixed.

I think you mean to say that DXO will soon have a blog post up saying that they've lost their test results and will work "very hard" to find them

 

[LoneRider]

I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

If the gap between Sony and Canon has been significantly reduced, I'm sure DXO will do the usual test as soon as possible

(I mean: April 2020) ;D

fixed.

I think you mean to say that DXO will soon have a blog post up saying that they've lost their test results and will work "very hard" to find them

report to moderator - "funny as heck!" ;D

 

[Woody]

I think you mean to say that DXO will soon have a blog post up saying that they've lost their test results and will work "very hard" to find them

Nah, the 80D sensor is improved significantly from older generation Canon sensors, but is still a far cry from what is demonstrated in D7200.

 

[K]

I will be curious to see how this sensor scored on the almighty DxO Mark! haha

If the gap between Sony and Canon has been significantly reduced, I'm sure DXO will do the usual test as soon as possible

(I mean: April 2019) ;D

It might not take that long, since Canon hasn't surpassed Sony in this regard, there's less reason to cringe and delay the tests. The 5DS and 5DSR tests took absurdly long because Canon totally left Nikon in the dust. Canon L lens scores on 5DS are incredible.

 

[K]

I think you mean to say that DXO will soon have a blog post up saying that they've lost their test results and will work "very hard" to find them

Nah, the 80D sensor is improved significantly from older generation Canon sensors, but is still a far cry from what is demonstrated in D7200.

The D7200 has a very impressive sensor for a crop.

However, Canon EF-S zooms are better than Nikon DX zooms by quite a bit, more than making up for the weaker sensor leading to better Canon IQ. Nikon DX primes are good though.

 

[ritholtz]

I think you mean to say that DXO will soon have a blog post up saying that they've lost their test results and will work "very hard" to find them

Nah, the 80D sensor is improved significantly from older generation Canon sensors, but is still a far cry from what is demonstrated in D7200.

The D7200 has a very impressive sensor for a crop.

However, Canon EF-S zooms are better than Nikon DX zooms by quite a bit, more than making up for the weaker sensor leading to better Canon IQ. Nikon DX primes are good though.

Not only for still images, I think Nikon d7200 video quality is also very good except no live AF.
What are the Nikon comparable lens for Canon STM lens. I guess third party lenses are available for both the systems. Nikon has 35mm prime for crop. Is there any cheap Nikon walk around lens?

Thanks