Canon Announces That The Powerful Professional Full-Frame EOS R3 Mirrorless Camera Is On Its Way

sanj

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There indeed is an option - the camera provides a setting for frame rate. Also over time I have learnt to press the shutter, release it, keep it pressed according to the action.
In other words, I always keep it on hi burst but control fps with how long I keep the shutter pressed. If I keep it on low burst but the situation demands high burst, by the time I change it, the moment would be lost. I have (many have) learnt to press it so that a single frame is shot if we so want.
 
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john1970

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Exactly, Canon Sweden writes on their website for the RF 600mm f4L IS USM and RF 400mm f2.8L IS USM that these new lenses features dual power focus drive which gives faster focus with compatible cameras. (Links in Swedish)

I'll also add a source on my other post.
I wonder which cameras are compatible. Obviously, the upcoming R3 has the compatibility, but I wonder if the R5 also will have this benefit. Thank you for sharing the link.
 
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Billybob

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Lovely lovely photos. I love Canon and will probably always use Canon. But after seeing your pictures I believe a compact full-frame Sony would be a better option for you. Keep up the good work sir!
I agree that Jean Charles photos are lovely. But why would he need to move to Sony for a compact camera when the R5/R6 pair are fabulous cameras for both landscape and most action purposes? Are these amazing--multiple Camera-of-the-Year award winners--suddenly obsolete because Canon has now announced a faster camera?

No doubt that Canon will continue to update the compact cameras as well as the integrated-grip cameras so "flaws" and deficiencies in currently available cameras will be addressed. The beauty of the Canon approach is that you can choose between compact and integrated-grip cameras. Sony does not provide that choice.
 
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neuroanatomist

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I'm really talking mostly about my branch of wildlife shooting ...
Cameras like the R3,R7 and R1 are specialist bodies designed for capturing fast moving subjects so IBIS isn't a terribly useful feature
Canon can’t afford to design cameras for one specific use case. Where is your evidence that IBIS reduces reliability? Absent that, if you don’t want to use a feature then just turn it off.
 

sanj

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I agree that Jean Charles photos are lovely. But why would he need to move to Sony for a compact camera when the R5/R6 pair are fabulous cameras for both landscape and most action purposes? Are these amazing--multiple Camera-of-the-Year award winners--suddenly obsolete because Canon has now announced a faster camera?

No doubt that Canon will continue to update the compact cameras as well as the integrated-grip cameras so "flaws" in currently available cameras will be addressed. The beauty of the Canon approach is that you can choose between compact and integrated-grip cameras. Sony does not provide that choice.
Yes, you are absolutely right. I felt that the Sony IQ in smaller form factors may work better for him.
 

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It is recommended to turn IBIS off when on a tripod.
I know that the recommendation to turn IS off (in general) when on a tripod has been the default saying from manufacturers,
but I have found better performance by turning it on when on a tripod.
I use lightweight travel tripods and under high magnification I can see slight vibrations in the back LCD from any disturbances, especially wind.
The IS (OIS and IBIS) helps to eliminate this motion you don't expect to have.
YMMV
 

usern4cr

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There indeed is an option - the camera provides a setting for frame rate. Also over time I have learnt to press the shutter, release it, keep it pressed according to the action.
On the R5 in full ES, it overrides the normal hi/mid/lo FPS settings and forces you to shoot at 20 FPS.
This is a *major* PITA for those that only want to silence the shutter sound without changing their preferred FPS.

If you have found that yours behaves differently, please let me know so I can do the same on mine.

And yes, I also use the method to hold the shutter down for the appropriate length according to the action.
 

sanj

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I know that the recommendation to turn IS off (in general) when on a tripod has been the default saying from manufacturers,
but I have found better performance by turning it on when on a tripod.
I use lightweight travel tripods and under high magnification I can see slight vibrations in the back LCD from any disturbances, especially wind.
The IS (OIS and IBIS) helps to eliminate this motion you don't expect to have.
YMMV
I meant a proper, functional tripod. Sir.
 

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The key features I'm concerned about as a professional motorsports photographer that also shoots commercial video:
  1. What is the sensor resolution and will there be options for physically smaller RAW files? While I love the 45mp and cRAW option the R5 brings me, the lack of any option for smaller image resolutions when shooting in RAW is unfortunate. If this camera brings us 30-50mp - which I really truly hope we don't see another 20-24mp camera - then I would love to see them bring a mRAW or sRAW option in addition to cRAW. I don't always need high resolution when I'm shooting certain car classes.
  2. Will there be an option to manually adjust continuous shooting speeds? The R5 and R6 are stubbornly locked at 20fps or 1fps...this doesn't help me. I will often only need 10fps to get the job done, and then some cars I would LOVE to shoot at 20/30fps for all the incredible details the human eye can miss. But during a wedding...yeah, I don't need or want 20+fps at all times I need silent shutter. Taps on the shutter provide great little bursts, but during some sequences it would be nice to adjust the fps and shoot an entire part of the wedding without overloading my computer with files.
  3. THE DEAL BREAKER FOR ME....As I move into shooting commercial video very heavily, I would love to have just ONE camera not have any potential overheating problems and be able to record indefinitely past 29:59 minutes. I really hope this camera brings unrestricted video recording to the table. All the photography features sound great, but nothing that has me eager to replace my R5...which replaced my 1DX Mark II. Bringing this to the table would help me to justify the business purchase.
  4. Finally....IBIS. Please continue with the IBIS system, but for the LOVE OF GOD!! Let us control IBIS independently from lens IS!!! This is especially annoying when shooting video because lens IS alone doesn't show IBIS wobble...but shooting with both can sometimes show the corner wobble especially at wider focal lengths. Oh, and let us control digital IS independently from that too!! Why can I only introduce digital IS when IBIS and lens IS is turned on? I really hate some things about Canon cameras. haha
I'm sure there are a few more features here...but having unrestricted video recording is my top priority if I am adding a 3rd camera to my bag.
 

StandardLumen

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I know that the recommendation to turn IS off (in general) when on a tripod has been the default saying from manufacturers,
but I have found better performance by turning it on when on a tripod.
I use lightweight travel tripods and under high magnification I can see slight vibrations in the back LCD from any disturbances, especially wind.
The IS (OIS and IBIS) helps to eliminate this motion you don't expect to have.
YMMV
Conventional wisdom doesn't always change as fast as technology, and in my personal experience I think this is an example of that phenomenon. When I got into photography about 20 years ago, it was very much the case that image stabilization on tripods would cause the image to drift a little, and would basically ruin photos taken with a tripod and a long shutter. With the R5, I've not experienced that problem, and in fact I agree with you that the stabilization has a noticeable benefit if there is any disturbance from things like wind.
 

Nemorino

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Selected Drive mode in all of those cameras and on most any high end camera. High speed continuous shooting provides the highest frame rate depending on the battery, therefore for the highest continuos a battery grip is available or built in. High 20/sec 1dx3 & high 12/sec R5,
"High speed continuous" = 20/s, "Medium speed continuous" =8/s, "Low speed continuous" =3/s and of course "Single shot"
Manual instruction below:
https://cam.start.canon/en/C001/manual/html/UG-04_AF-Drive_0130.html
First thank You for the afford! But I should have mention I had the electronic shutter in mind as user4cr discribes
On the R5 in full ES, it overrides the normal hi/mid/lo FPS settings and forces you to shoot at 20 FPS.
This is a *major* PITA for those that only want to silence the shutter sound without changing their preferred FPS.
 

Billybob

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Will Canon continue to manufacture very expensive large full frame cameras or do I have to switch to Sony?
Love your photography. Beautiful landscape artistry as well as beautiful locations.

The Canon R5/R6 siblings are arguably expensive--but definitely in the price range of competitive cameras--but are definitely compact. In what ways are these campact cameras unsuitable for your use purposes?
 

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  1. Will there be an option to manually adjust continuous shooting speeds? The R5 and R6 are stubbornly locked at 20fps or 1fps...this doesn't help me.

There are drive modes that get you in between 1-20. However, to your point... would be nice for them to let us limit electronic.
 

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Billybob

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Yes, you are absolutely right. I felt that the Sony IQ in smaller form factors may work better for him.
As a user of both Sony and Canon mirrorless, I perceive little difference in IQ and form factor between the two. There are clearly situations where one camera performs better than the other, but about 90% of the difference is due to the lens not the body. I do prefer the Canon ergonomics to the Sony's--Canon just knows how to make cameras that are just a bit more comfortable to use--but I've never had a problem with Sony ergonomics. Thus, for me the only reason to switch is if I truly needed to the performance edge that the Sony A1 offers for action photography. If I were primarily a landscape photographer, I could go either way.
 

john1970

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There are drive modes that get you in between 1-20. However, to your point... would be nice for them to let us limit electronic.
I would love to be able to set the electronic shutter to 5, 10, 15, 20 fps. For some wildlife the silent shutter is great, but I also do not need 10-15 frames that all look the same. Even an 10 vs. 20 fps would be great. I hope for the R3 they give us 10, 20, and 30 fps as options for the electronic shutter.