Canon Announces Two New EF Ultra Wide-Angle Zoom Lenses and White EOS Rebel SL1 Digital SLR Camera

[rrcphoto]

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Yea! In "the year of the lens", we've started out with two lenses no one asked for.

Speak for yourself, but not for everybody. I for one certainly welcome a new Canon ultrawide zoom if it offers improved corner resolution and sharpness.

Ditto. Especially if you already own a 17-40L and sell it to fund the new 16-35L IS. As I think about it more, this be nice for IS video too.

I have owned the 17-40L for a long time (wonderful lens), and have thought of selling it without buying a direct replacement. I find I use my 15mm fisheye at least 20 times more than the rectilinear ultrawide.

My point was, no one asked for this. People seem to have been clamoring for a14-24/2.8 instead of a 16-35/4 with IS.

what planet are you on?

canon's needed a sharp corner to corner UWA zoom since the dawn of the full frame sensor on the 1Ds. most of us adapted nikkors or contax / yashica lenses because there was no other viable option until the 17mm TS-E came out.


canon's even putting their money where their mouth is .. and stating. this lens is sharp in the corners wide open with minimal CA to boot.

http://cweb.canon.jp/pdf-catalog/eos/pdf/ef-ef16-35mm-f4l-is-usm.pdf

 

[aroo]

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Is it just me, or are the 16-35 MTF charts kind of astonishing? Compares favorably to Nikon's lens of the same specs, and sharpness lines even look a bit like the Sony 55mm's.

 

[sagittariansrock]

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Is it just me, or are the 16-35 MTF charts kind of astonishing? Compares favorably to Nikon's lens of the same specs, and sharpness lines even look a bit like the Sony 55mm's.

It compares favorably to the 14-24 as well, IMO. Yes, different apertures- but the 14-24 is considered a landmark in UWA sharpness.

A comparison with the revered Nikon 14-24 in terms of sharpness and resolution:

16-35/f4L	14-24/f2.8

 

[Khalai]

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Is it just me, or are the 16-35 MTF charts kind of astonishing? Compares favorably to Nikon's lens of the same specs, and sharpness lines even look a bit like the Sony 55mm's.

It compares favorably to the 14-24 as well, IMO. Yes, different apertures- but the 14-24 is considered a landmark in UWA sharpness.

A comparison with the revered Nikon 14-24 in terms of sharpness and resolution:

16-35/f4L	14-24/f2.8

Not that you can reliably compare MTF charts from different manufacturers, but Nikon still has a slight edge on the wide end (not to mention 14mm vs 16mm and f/2.8 vs f/4, but I like IS and filter thread any day much more), but that means that Canon has finally some impressively sharp UWA in their arsenal. Can't wait to see reviews and moreso field tests and real images

 

[RLPhoto]

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Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.

Good for you PBD. I'd love to see some nice creative shots with your work with fisheyes, stretched or un-stretched. There is many users who enjoy fisheyes and seen great shots with them, but I still have no need for one.

 

[thedman]

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So do we have an approximate date that these will be available? I know "June", but I'm leaving on a trip June 28th and would love to have the 16-35 with me.

 

[Lee Jay]

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Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.

Yes, and I use the Sigma which is, to me, on par with an L-prime optically. It's simply outstanding, and very flexible, not to mention a lot of fun to use.

 

[Etienne]

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I can see a 16-35 f/4L IS in my bag for christmas

 

[dlleno]

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So do we have an approximate date that these will be available? I know "June", but I'm leaving on a trip June 28th and would love to have the 16-35 with me.

B&H and Adorama won't say, and Amazon claims first availability June 30

 

[Lee Jay]

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Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.

Good for you PBD. I'd love to see some nice creative shots with your work with fisheyes, stretched or un-stretched. There is many users who enjoy fisheyes and seen great shots with them, but I still have no need for one.

Can you tell which are fisheye, which are rectilinear, which are fish and which are defished?

 

[Trovador]

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Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.

Good for you PBD. I'd love to see some nice creative shots with your work with fisheyes, stretched or un-stretched. There is many users who enjoy fisheyes and seen great shots with them, but I still have no need for one.

Can you tell which are fisheye, which are rectilinear, which are fish and which are defished?

I'll play!

1. fisheye
2. rectilinear
3. fisheye
4. Defished to rectilinear

yes? no? maybe?

 

[Trovador]

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I'll take one 16-35 f/4L IS to go please.

 

[MichaelHodges]

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Cool. As much as people tend to poke fun at Canon here, these lenses look great and are reasonably priced.

The 16-35 IS has me drooling a bit. And certainly, the 10-18 is an amazing deal.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

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I am not a good MTF reader :-\


Can someone explain to me the IQ difference between the 16-35 f/2.8II and the 16-35 f/4 IS based on the MTF's?
I put them here (upper images are the 16-35 f/2.8II)

Keeping it really simple: the higher the lines, the better

a touch more complex: the black are for wide open (note that in your case you are comparing f/2.8 vs f/4 for the black lines so that's not really a fair comparison) , the blue for f/8

and bit more complex: the thick lines are for contrast bite and the thin lines are for resolving fine details and the dotted vs. dashed tells radial from tangential direction (since the performance tends to not be the same in both directions of measurement; some say that the closer the radial and tangential lines are to each other in each of their pairings the better the bokeh, but it is likely a lot more complicated than that).

 

[Cali_PH]

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Fan-freakin-tastic, this is exactly what I was hoping for this year. And specifically f4 for the lower weight and price, since I shoot landscape f8-f11 most of the time. Already have the Rokinon 14mm for astro work. I was just telling someone I wanted a new sharper 17-40 or 16-35 f/4 about 2 weeks ago, but expected it to be $1500+ if they ever made one. Can't wait to see some tests!

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

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Fan-freakin-tastic, this is exactly what I was hoping for this year. And specifically f4 for the lower weight and price, since I shoot landscape f8-f11 most of the time. Already have the Rokinon 14mm for astro work. I was just telling someone I wanted a new sharper 17-40 or 16-35 f/4 about 2 weeks ago, but expected it to be $1500+ if they ever made one. Can't wait to see some tests!

+1

 

[zim]

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16-35 yussss..... The 17-40 was on my list but not now. That's the Christmas bonus spent already, just need to get to Christmas!!!! ;D

 

[Loswr]

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Might just have to get the 16-35/4L IS. Selling the 16-35/2.8L II would cover the cost. Less than 15% of my 16-35L shots are wider than f/4, and of those a reasonable fraction are of static subjects where 3-4 stops of IS would be of more benefit than 1 stop of light. Sharper would be welcome, too.

Bummer (for me) about the 77mm filter size, as the 24-70/2.8L II and TS-E 24L II both use 82mm, as does the 16-35/2.8L II. I have the needed filters in 77mm (B+W Käsemann CPL, 10-stop ND, and the Lee WA adapter), it just means carrying them, too.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

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B&h mail says it is weather sealed with an optional protection filter.
First time seeing that! Any other lens have that kind of sealing?

Yeah, 17-40L among others.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

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The Year of the Lens has begun...

One swallow doesnt make a summer..

not even if it is European and unladen?