Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013

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Ricku said:
1DSX.

I don't like the sound of that. It means that the high MP body will have built in grip (elephant sized camera).

As if our camera bags aren't full and heavy enough already? :P This camera will be the final step to killing my neck and shoulders.

True that! At football I had a 1DX with a 400 on a monopod and another slinged around my neck with 70-200 and usually Sunday and Monday I couldn't walk, haha.
 
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I started saving for the 60D about the time the 70D rumors started to fly. Then the rumors died down for awhile. Then the 60D showed-up at Costco, and I figured the 70D must be on the way sometime in the next few months. The huge drop in price seems to confirm that for me ($899 body when I started saving, $669 now).

So here is my "IF" list:

[list type=decimal]
[*]IF the sensor has improved high-ISO performance,
[*]IF the the screen still articulates,
[*]IF the auto-focus system shows some advancement (even slightly),
[*]IF the price is not significantly higher (maybe $1,200 or less for body?),
[/list]

Then I'll buy the 70D as soon as I've saved enough. I might also add AFMA to the "IF" list.

My two big worries are:

[list type=decimal]
[*]The 24MP is for marketing, and doesn't improve high-ISO noise, and
[*]the price will be much higher than I can accommodate.
[/list]

The new sensor and possible 25,600 ISO have me hopeful on noise. The fact that the T4i is down to $599 has me hoping that the 70D price won't be more than double that.

Hoping...
 
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The 1Dsx will do for me provided Canon manage to leapfrog Nikons current world beating performance with the 800E. If they can achieve that, then I will be in heaven, if not, then its goodbye Canon. I'm not hanging about if they continue to produce cameras with noise and banding issues but with excessive ISO figures.

Having said that, my present 5DII is OK for the moment, so I would rather they spent more time getting it right than a rushed "knee jerk reaction".
 
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Not everyone wants/needs high frames per second. When was the last time you shot a portrait at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time that you hot landscape at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot table-top at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot your vacation at 10 FPS ??

One of the things I've come to like on my Sony NEX-5n is touch screen focusing. An incredibly handy feature I'd like to see on the 70D.
 
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c.d.embrey said:
Not everyone wants/needs high frames per second. When was the last time you shot a portrait at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time that you hot landscape at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot table-top at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot your vacation at 10 FPS ??

One of the things I've come to like on my Sony NEX-5n is touch screen focusing. An incredibly handy feature I'd like to see on the 70D.

Um, that's why there are multiple models being discussed as potential announcements this year.
 
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c.d.embrey said:
Will the EOS M2 have useful features ??? Or will it be more of the same-old same-old from Canon :(

Canon worries about canniblization, but someone else will eat their lunch if they are not careful.

First company to release affordable mirrorless FF, will eat Canon's lunch for sure.

Sony is halfway there with their RX1. All that is missing now is a model with interchangable lens system.
 
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c.d.embrey said:
Not everyone wants/needs high frames per second. When was the last time you shot a portrait at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time that you hot landscape at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot table-top at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot your vacation at 10 FPS ??

Never. But last week I shot portraits at 12 fps. A few months ago, I shot my vacation at 12 fps. This morning I shot macro at 12 fps.

Your needs and usage patterns aren't everyone's. :P
 
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c.d.embrey said:
bdunbar79 said:
Um, that's why there are multiple models being discussed as potential announcements this year.

Yes, but all the complaing centers on the alledged specs of the 70D :) the lowest cost DSLR being discussed :) not the 7D or 1DSx ;)

Yeah. I won't lie. It would be so nice to get a good, FF camera, low ISO and high DR, at under $2000. I can dream right? :).
 
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Ricku said:
First company to release affordable mirrorless FF, will eat Canon's lunch for sure.

Sony is halfway there with their RX1. All that is missing now is a model with interchangable lens system.

They won't need to FullFrame to eat Canon's lunch. DPReview did a reader pole, and named the Olympus OM-D E-M5 as the camera of the year http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/01/best-camera-of-2012-results

The Olympus E-PM2 has the same sensor and the fast-focus of the OM-D E-M5, while costing significantly less than the Canon EOS M.
 
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c.d.embrey said:
Canon worries about canniblization, but someone else will eat their lunch if they are not careful.

Well, Nikon and Sony ate Canon's lunch, dinner, and elevensies with the introduction of D800 and D600 in a large bite and also with other ancillary nips here and bites there...

This only makes sense when one fairly takes into account that Canon is the big dog in the kennel...any stolen lunch, perhaps even a bite says something.

But Canon will prepare another spread no doubt. That's what these rumors suggest.
 
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privatebydesign said:
motorhead said:
The 1Dsx will do for me provided Canon manage to leapfrog Nikons current world beating performance with the 800E. If they can achieve that, then I will be in heaven, if not, then its goodbye Canon. I'm not hanging about if they continue to produce cameras with noise and banding issues but with excessive ISO figures.

Having said that, my present 5DII is OK for the moment, so I would rather they spent more time getting it right than a rushed "knee jerk reaction".

Just interested, what do you think an $8,000+ 38+MP camera will do for you when you can currently live with a $1,300 21MP 5D MkII? What do you shoot now, and what do you do with your output that would necessitate such an upscale?

D800 has higher dynamic range and also more resolving capability. Does not infer you need the high MP, just some of the other features....
 
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Hey guys :)

I need a bit of an education from you guys.

What effects noise at higher ISO or longer shutter speeds? Is it purely processor related or does the pixel size of an APS-C body contribute as well?

I own a 500D and I was put off by the 7D not having a definite advantage when it came to noise.

I so hope this is the one area they focus on. The top Canon APS-C body, that many will attach their 400mm+ glass to should be just better.
 
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Sabaki said:
Hey guys :)

I need a bit of an education from you guys.

What effects noise at higher ISO or longer shutter speeds? Is it purely processor related or does the pixel size of an APS-C body contribute as well?

I own a 500D and I was put off by the 7D not having a definite advantage when it came to noise.

I so hope this is the one area they focus on. The top Canon APS-C body, that many will attach their 400mm+ glass to should be just better.

Pixel size primarily, you can do wonders with software, but what you can do with software of a FF, you can do to an APS-C
 
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neuroanatomist said:
c.d.embrey said:
Not everyone wants/needs high frames per second. When was the last time you shot a portrait at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time that you hot landscape at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot table-top at 10 FPS ??? When was the last time you shot your vacation at 10 FPS ??

Never. But last week I shot portraits at 12 fps. A few months ago, I shot my vacation at 12 fps. This morning I shot macro at 12 fps.

Your needs and usage patterns aren't everyone's. :P

he did start the post with "Not everybody" :)

I always shoot group portraits with a burst.....there always seems to be someone blinking, yawning, or that momentary facial twitch.... and if I don't get a clean one I resort to photoshop.... but when I do this it is in the "slow burst" mode of around 2 frames per second.
 
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Don Haines said:
Sabaki said:
Hey guys :)

I need a bit of an education from you guys.

What effects noise at higher ISO or longer shutter speeds? Is it purely processor related or does the pixel size of an APS-C body contribute as well?

I own a 500D and I was put off by the 7D not having a definite advantage when it came to noise.

I so hope this is the one area they focus on. The top Canon APS-C body, that many will attach their 400mm+ glass to should be just better.

Pixel size primarily, you can do wonders with software, but what you can do with software of a FF, you can do to an APS-C
Software is a solution but its disheartening owning the very best crop sensor body and having very visible noise shooting at ISO 400/800. It should be at worst twice as good IMO.
 
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