Canon DSLR Body Rumors for 2013
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Sabaki said:Hey guys
I need a bit of an education from you guys.
What effects noise at higher ISO or longer shutter speeds? Is it purely processor related or does the pixel size of an APS-C body contribute as well?
I own a 500D and I was put off by the 7D not having a definite advantage when it came to noise.
I so hope this is the one area they focus on. The top Canon APS-C body, that many will attach their 400mm+ glass to should be just better.
Sensor temperature - quite strongly, apparently.
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That 70D rumor has got to be fake. How can they literally take away features and call it a new camera and sell it for a higher price? The T4i will surpass it in fps? Wow...
I've been waiting for this camera for a year now and these rumors are just a slap to the face. Hopefully it has 6fps and better image quality and AF system than 60D. Give up higher frame rates in video too.
I've been waiting for this camera for a year now and these rumors are just a slap to the face. Hopefully it has 6fps and better image quality and AF system than 60D. Give up higher frame rates in video too.
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That's how I felt at first. Then looking at the image more closely, it was clear that the characters after the 3.0 for the 70D were different than the characters after the 10 for the 7DII. I figured it was for a 3.0 Inch Vari-Angle LCD.
Others who can read Japanese have confirmed that it refers to screen and not FPS. Whew!
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motorhead said:
I smiled a little..."worldbeating"...
And as for what you will require Canon to deliver on their high MP flagship at thousands of dollars more... so, you, a 5D II user, will continue to "hang about" ... I am sure they are shaking in their boots
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The big megapickle camera will not be branded as the 1DSx, for the exact same reason that, lo these many years ago, the compact Mac with a 68030 CPU was branded an SE/30 instead of, in keeping with the IIx and the IIcx, the SEx.
Cheers,
b&
Cheers,
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I'm anxiously waiting for / saving for the 7d2. Sadly, I'd order today if it were available, without knowing the specs. My expectation is that it will be targeted at the sports photographer, continue to be APS-C, and have significantly improved high ISO performance and somewhat improved focusing. I'm hoping for a price point in the $2,000 - $2,500 range.
For me, I'm wanting for a new sports photography setup, and am quite happy with the 5d2 for landscape/portrait photography. Having 2 bodies (although quite different in nature), provides a measure of insurance.
Fingers crossed for a quick announcement and release....
For me, I'm wanting for a new sports photography setup, and am quite happy with the 5d2 for landscape/portrait photography. Having 2 bodies (although quite different in nature), provides a measure of insurance.
Fingers crossed for a quick announcement and release....
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RichM said:
Rich,
To go off your point, when the 1DX was announced, part of me was a bit disappointed in that I was really looking for a 1D Mark IV replacement; one with APS-H 1.3x crop factor, with improved high ISO performance. If the 7D Mark II let's say, can shoot shots with NR that look good at ISO 5000-6400, it'll be popular for sure!
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I'd certainly upgrade my 7D to a 7D Mark II with the same frame rate as the 1D4 and much better IQ than the current 7D. I like being able to keep the 1.6x reach that I would have sacrificed to 1.3x with a 1D4 or give up with a 1Dx. If the 7D2 is half the price of a 1Dx or less, I'll buy one in a heartbeat.
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tiger82 said:
Well, at ISO 800, you actually have more "reach" with the 1D4 than the 7D, because IQ is so much superior on the 1D4, you can crop beyond the 7D cropping.
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bdunbar79 said:
And the 1D X is a further step up from the 1DIV for ISO performance - you can crop a 1D X image to the 7D FoV and have better IQ, albeit with fewer MP.
The argument is much like, 'I'd go FF if there was an equivalent to the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS,' stated by people who are blissfully unaware that the 24-105mm f/4L IS on FF is wider, longer, and effectively faster.
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bdunbar79 said:
It's not so easy.... you have a camera and a lens... the lens used will affect how much cropping you can get away with and the lighting as well.
A full frame camera will visibly outperform an APS-C camera under poor lighting, but under good lighting the difference is much less apparent.
If you are using a cheap lens, you will not have the resolving power of a quality lens. A while ago I compared an 18-200 against the 100L. My target was the page of a book. The 18-200 at 100 could not resolve words, and at 200 you could guess what the words were. The 100L was able to resolve the words. In other words, a good 100mm lens had longer reach than a poor 200mm lens.
I then compared a 5DII against a 60D, both using the same 400 5.6 lens, and moved the book away until I had problems resolving. In daylight, (i think it was at ISO200 but not sure) the 60D out resolved the 5DII, but as the light dimmed, (i think using ISO1600) the 5DII out resolved the 60D....
There are no easy answers that cover all conditions.
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hmm looks like the big MP will be an expensive brick then, I wonder how that compares to D800
it may be a stunning camera but twice the price, size and weight of D800 might make it a bit of a tougher sell
so much for the never, ever a 1Dsx too
it may be a stunning camera but twice the price, size and weight of D800 might make it a bit of a tougher sell
so much for the never, ever a 1Dsx too
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nemethv said:
It doesn't say 3fps, the characters after 3 and 10 are different, the second line brags about the main features of each camera and for the 70D it is the flip screen and for the 7D2 it is the fps.
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artsmalley said:
That explains the 1DXs name then. Other rumors have suggested much smaller than 1Dx size but larger than 5D size with a slightly expanded bottom to fit a larger battery to help drive more chips.
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