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privatebydesign said:
+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.
PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I. I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.
See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165
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neuroanatomist said:privatebydesign said:
+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.
PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I. I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.
See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165
Thanks... Never read that post because I became a member in 2013.
BTW... So you did enjoy the Chocolate Stout! ;D
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Nice comparison ... forgetting the compression vs perspective debate, I like the way you did this comparison ... it gives a nice one glance view of what to expect from all those focal lengths, if one were to frame them all the same way. Thanks for sharing.RomainF said:For all of you wondering about compression :
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neuroanatomist said:privatebydesign said:
+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.
PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I. I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.
See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165
I remember that thread well. Personally I thought PBD's example was amusing because the lady in the comparison had either been posing for far too long or had been asked to do this type of thing far too many times before. It was of course also informative as was yours, where it showed a good example of wiki getting it wrong, or at least being misleading, a warning to those who use wiki as a ready reference for posing as an experienced expert on the web.
The 'compression' seen in perspective can be confusing photographically. PBD says compression is an illusion, but it's worth remembering that the 'illusion' is what we see.
Anyone with a zoom can do a quick test for themselves. Using a zoom that goes from wide angle to telephoto - say the 24-105, take a shot of a scene with objects of some sort at different distances away from you at 24mm. Then from exactly the same position take the same shot at 105mm. Download both images, then crop centre of the 24 mil shot to exactly the same as 105 and enlarge it to the same. It will be identical to the original 105 mil shot in perspective despite the fact that on the 24mm shot the perspective seems to be pulling apart - an illusion.
Incidentally the 24-105 is so well corrected the two images are nearly identical in that you can virtually overlay them.
Back on track with the 135L, the head shots show that once you are over a certain distance from the model there is little flattering change to the perspective of the face, and that flattering distance starts with the 135mm.
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They were originally shot by Stephen Eastwood, well his site is the first place I saw them and I have seen him credited with them in several places. Also it is one of his models and his lighting style, interestingly he uses Canon Speedlites very extensively and I often wondered why he never became the Canon Joe McNally.neuroanatomist said:
http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/Tutorials_Lens_Perspective.htm
http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/lensdistortion/strippage.htm
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Sporgon said:
Sporgon,
You nail it with your third paragraph, and that is all I am ever really trying to point out, staying in the same place and changing lenses (or zooming) won't change "compression", and that is the point so many miss, they believe that at 105 thy are creating more "compression" than at 24. Lenses don't "compress", position creates perspective.
(P.S. She had been on the phone to her mum for an hour, it was the phone call rather than the "modelling" that created the feel of the shot ;D )
P.P.S. I will probably take a lead from Neuro next time and use something I can drink afterwards for "demonstration" purposes!
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Epic800 said:
Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.
Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.
I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ :
;D ;D ;DAttachments
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Dylan777 said:Epic800 said:
Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.
Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.
I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ :
not a bad deal I got mine for $700 which i was over the moon with and its like brand new only 2 years old by the date code
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Dylan777 said:Epic800 said:
Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.
Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.
I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ :
Indoor/outdoor test shots @ f2. JPEG straight out from camera.
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Dylan777 said:Dylan777 said:Epic800 said:
Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.
Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.
I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ :
Indoor/outdoor test shots @ f2. JPEG straight out from camera.
Oh wow, awesome deal on the auction. This lens is so sharp it is unbelievable. If my pockets were deep enough for the 85 II. I would of definitely purchased that instead.
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Here's a recent portrait with the 135L (pretty much my favorite portrait lens). A little fill flash from the 580EXII, but other than adding a bit of vignette and slight bit of warmness, this is out of camera. Wide open @ f/2
Paris on Her Mind by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
Paris on Her Mind by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
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TWI by Dustin Abbott said:Here's a recent portrait with the 135L (pretty much my favorite portrait lens). A little fill flash from the 580EXII, but other than adding a bit of vignette and slight bit of warmness, this is out of camera. Wide open @ f/2
Paris on Her Mind by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
Nice one ... good work with the foreground too!
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