Canon EOS-1D X Mark II Coming in April 2016 [CR3]

Hector1970 said:
Let's home it's a even better camera than the current one (which is fantastic).
What is the rumoured FPS.
I hope it's ISO performance is stellar.
I've been very disappointed with the 5DSR.
Anything higher than 800 is ropey. (The 7DII is the same but I expected more from the 5DSR.
It turns the camera into a limited use camera.
I hope the 1DX II sets new standards in that area.

I have the 1DX and the 5DS R that I use extensively for many different types of photography. I love both these cameras, but they of course have two different strengths. I don't get your "ropey" comments for the 5DS R. I use my 1DX for a lot of wildlife photography, but I have also been photographing a lot of wildlife with my 5DS R. I get stellar results up to ISO 1600. In addition, the 5DS R's autofocus seems even better than the AF on the 1DX which is saying a lot because the AF on the 1DX is amazing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I will be happy using both these cameras for many uses until Canon comes out with something even better.
 
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Hector1970 said:
Let's home it's a even better camera than the current one (which is fantastic).
What is the rumoured FPS.
I hope it's ISO performance is stellar.
I've been very disappointed with the 5DSR.
Anything higher than 800 is ropey. (The 7DII is the same but I expected more from the 5DSR.
It turns the camera into a limited use camera.
I hope the 1DX II sets new standards in that area.
Before I bought the 5DS I had read multiple reviews and never intended using the camera above 400 ISO for either Landscape or Portraits. In both cases I've been extremely happy with the IQ which really sets this camera apart. Canon always stated this camera doesn't replace the 5D MKIII which has better DR & is a better camera for action of any type, the 5DS & 5DSr are niche cameras and best suited for Landscape and Portraits.
 
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Ive had beautiful results at 1600 with my DSR and still very good at 6400. As good or better than the 5D3

glness said:
Hector1970 said:
Let's home it's a even better camera than the current one (which is fantastic).
What is the rumoured FPS.
I hope it's ISO performance is stellar.
I've been very disappointed with the 5DSR.
Anything higher than 800 is ropey. (The 7DII is the same but I expected more from the 5DSR.
It turns the camera into a limited use camera.
I hope the 1DX II sets new standards in that area.

I have the 1DX and the 5DS R that I use extensively for many different types of photography. I love both these cameras, but they of course have two different strengths. I don't get your "ropey" comments for the 5DS R. I use my 1DX for a lot of wildlife photography, but I have also been photographing a lot of wildlife with my 5DS R. I get stellar results up to ISO 1600. In addition, the 5DS R's autofocus seems even better than the AF on the 1DX which is saying a lot because the AF on the 1DX is amazing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I will be happy using both these cameras for many uses until Canon comes out with something even better.
 
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The current planned price for the new EOS-1D X Mark II is $5999, but that could change slightly depending on currency strength at the time of the announcement, but it will be cheaper than the $6496 Nikon D5.

If it comes in at US$ 5,999 I will be much happier than if it had come in at what I thought its launch price would be - US$ 6,999.

Please Canon, don't do silly things like 3-minute video limits or two different types of 1DX II with different card slots as Nikon has just done.

Go with dual CFast as that seems to be the way forward, and I say that despite the fact I would have to go out and buy new cards.
 
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CaptureWhatYouSee said:
ahsanford said:
Oooooh CR3 snap! :D

The 1DX II is one more thing for Canon to get out to way so that they can give me my 50mm f/nooneknows IS USM.

And a 5D4 with spot metering at any AF point.

And a mirrorless system with native USM lenses and a viewfinder.

And a pony.

- A

P.S. Or Canon / Ted Knight will keep doing this to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLdBrx-ijwQ

My heart fluttered at that line. I too want a pony.

Ponies are for you if...
If you like having your life threatened by the stupidity of 1,000lb animals.
I'm not kidding, and yes my most of my cousins think life threatening scenarios are "fun".
Should you opt for the smaller variety, you will be challenged at every turn by something with the intelligence of a toddler, just as much self control, and two to four times as much strength as you. Wrestling with ponies can be fun if you yourself are over 200lbs and in good shape, otherwise you're playing mind games the rest of your life. Heaven help you if they get out.
Add $500-$1,000 vet bills on top of this every time the thing eats something funny or runs into a fence, at which point the "wresting larger animals" becomes almost mandatory instead of optional while you go about tying to keep the @&*%$ thing alive.
 
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9VIII said:
CaptureWhatYouSee said:
ahsanford said:
Oooooh CR3 snap! :D

The 1DX II is one more thing for Canon to get out to way so that they can give me my 50mm f/nooneknows IS USM.

And a 5D4 with spot metering at any AF point.

And a mirrorless system with native USM lenses and a viewfinder.

And a pony.

- A

P.S. Or Canon / Ted Knight will keep doing this to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLdBrx-ijwQ

My heart fluttered at that line. I too want a pony.

Ponies are for you if...
If you like having your life threatened by the stupidity of 1,000lb animals.
I'm not kidding, and yes my most of my cousins think life threatening scenarios are "fun".
Should you opt for the smaller variety, you will be challenged at every turn by something with the intelligence of a toddler, just as much self control, and two to four times as much strength as you. Wrestling with ponies can be fun if you yourself are over 200lbs and in good shape, otherwise you're playing mind games the rest of your life. Heaven help you if they get out.
Add $500-$1,000 vet bills on top of this every time the thing eats something funny or runs into a fence, at which point the "wresting larger animals" becomes almost mandatory instead of optional while you go about tying to keep the @&*%$ thing alive.
and 2 years of room and board and vet bills for that pony costs about the same as a 600F4.......
 
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Nikon's limitation is a bit of a mystery.

You may prefer CFast cards but the buyer Canon is most concerned with are outfits like Reuters and Associated Press and the sort. Companies that will buy the 1DX2 in bulk to outfit their journalists. They all run now with CF. not CFast. So not only would they be buying new Cameras, but then they would also have to buy thousands of new media cards which are still at least a hundred bucks a pop and well beyond. I'm not saying Canon wont go Cfast, just saying I would bet more on CF cards or perhaos some hybrid (like a CF and Cfast slot, if at all possible)

expatinasia said:
The current planned price for the new EOS-1D X Mark II is $5999, but that could change slightly depending on currency strength at the time of the announcement, but it will be cheaper than the $6496 Nikon D5.

If it comes in at US$ 5,999 I will be much happier than if it had come in at what I thought its launch price would be - US$ 6,999.

Please Canon, don't do silly things like 3-minute video limits or two different types of 1DX II with different card slots as Nikon has just done.

Go with dual CFast as that seems to be the way forward, and I say that despite the fact I would have to go out and buy new cards.
 
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You're livin' in the past.
Canon has no meaningful hi ISO advantage

PureClassA said:
Seems some people don't understand this. And like I said, where are most journalists and sports shooters taking frames? It's not at base ISOs. They are shooting far more commonly in ranges where Canon has the advantage.
 
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Aglet said:
You're livin' in the past.
Canon has no meaningful hi ISO advantage

PureClassA said:
Seems some people don't understand this. And like I said, where are most journalists and sports shooters taking frames? It's not at base ISOs. They are shooting far more commonly in ranges where Canon has the advantage.
The D5 has 4 stops more ISO than the 1DX..... Can't wait to see some real world images and comparisons to see if this really is true.....
 
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PureClassA said:
You may prefer CFast cards but the buyer Canon is most concerned with are outfits like Reuters and Associated Press and the sort. Companies that will buy the 1DX2 in bulk to outfit their journalists. They all run now with CF. not CFast. So not only would they be buying new Cameras, but then they would also have to buy thousands of new media cards which are still at least a hundred bucks a pop and well beyond. I'm not saying Canon wont go Cfast, just saying I would bet more on CF cards or perhaos some hybrid (like a CF and Cfast slot, if at all possible)

I fully understand what you are saying, but this new camera will/should represent the latest in technology and as they tend to last about 4-5 years, the CF/CFast cards need to be able to handle any future firmware updates which may increase output etc.

Also, as the camera will have 4K then read/write speeds may become even more important.

And not only that, but as file sizes increase etc then we are constantly buying new cards anyway. I have 2 Lexar 62GB 1066X cards in my 1D X at all times (plus all my older ones as spares), but if the 1DX II does 4K I would probably need to buy two 128GB cards instead. I realise they are cheaper than CFast but I would also be aware that the money used for that purchase, is going on old technology which will most likely be 100% dead by the time the 1DX III comes out. Not good.

I definitely do not want a hybrid like one slot with one card and one with another. I like knowing that I have two CF cards which are the same and work with the camera in the same way, same speed etc.
 
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I hear ya. But dont forget, the 1DC does 4k in a cinema body with dual CF cards.

expatinasia said:
PureClassA said:
You may prefer CFast cards but the buyer Canon is most concerned with are outfits like Reuters and Associated Press and the sort. Companies that will buy the 1DX2 in bulk to outfit their journalists. They all run now with CF. not CFast. So not only would they be buying new Cameras, but then they would also have to buy thousands of new media cards which are still at least a hundred bucks a pop and well beyond. I'm not saying Canon wont go Cfast, just saying I would bet more on CF cards or perhaos some hybrid (like a CF and Cfast slot, if at all possible)

I fully understand what you are saying, but this new camera will/should represent the latest in technology and as they tend to last about 4-5 years, the CF/CFast cards need to be able to handle any future firmware updates which may increase output etc.

Also, as the camera will have 4K then read/write speeds may become even more important.

And not only that, but as file sizes increase etc then we are constantly buying new cards anyway. I have 2 Lexar 62GB 1066X cards in my 1D X at all times (plus all my older ones as spares), but if the 1DX II does 4K I would probably need to buy two 128GB cards instead. I realise they are cheaper than CFast but I would also be aware that the money used for that purchase, is going on old technology which will most likely be 100% dead by the time the 1DX III comes out. Not good.

I definitely do not want a hybrid like one slot with one card and one with another. I like knowing that I have two CF cards which are the same and work with the camera in the same way, same speed etc.
 
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I was a little underwhelmed by the specs on the new Nikon D5....also a little surprised at the price as I thought that they would continue to try to come in under the Canon prices, like they have in the past. Then when I read on this site about the anticipated price of the new 1Dx MK II I was even more surprised. Hopefully the new 1DX has an increase in megapixel size and several more fps speed added. With double Digic 7 sensors I would also expect a much better product when it comes to the ability of the camera to focus. I just wish they would get on with the announcement because this is getting ridiculous....
 
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Because I can read the Nikon specs of the D4, D5, and the CaNon 1DX. That's why it's the only certainy right now. It's not "fantard" it's just simple observable facts comparing the two models. But I'm sure Neuro will have fun with this....

that1guyy said:
neuroanatomist said:
PureClassA said:
It seems to me the only thing Nikon has built for certain in the D5 is a finally worthy competitor to the 4 year old, retiring 1DX.... not the 1DX2.

+1

How do you know its not worthy of the 1DX II? Do you have a time machine that you know the specs of the 1DX II? Stop being a fantard.
 
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Aglet said:
You're livin' in the past.
Canon has no meaningful hi ISO advantage

The point (or at least part of it) is that Canon does have meaningful advantages to people who use their cameras, and it has nothing to do with any ISO number or spec sheet.
I'm still completely uninterested by the recent Nikon offerings because they need to revamp their software.
I have more confidence in Canon maintaining a coherent ecosystem than anyone else on the market. Until other companies can approach that level of organization over the course of many years, I will be quite comfortable with Canon as my go-to system for photography tools.
 
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PureClassA said:
I hear ya. But dont forget, the 1DC does 4k in a cinema body with dual CF cards.

The 1D C has the same body as the 1D X.

I know a few people here have the 1D C - sanj being one - maybe they can tell us how it performs recording 4K but from what I have heard it works very well.

If the price of the 1D C falls further to say US$3,000 or US$ 3,500 I would be very tempted to just get that.
 
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Well yeah! It's the exact same camera except for the cinema processors instead of the Digic Chips and a different firmware. Otherwise it's identical. My point was it is a 4K EOS Cinema body in the same family as the C series. And it employs CF cards. And $3500 would be amazing but I dunno if it goes THAT cheap.

expatinasia said:
PureClassA said:
I hear ya. But dont forget, the 1DC does 4k in a cinema body with dual CF cards.

The 1D C has the same body as the 1D X.

I know a few people here have the 1D C - sanj being one - maybe they can tell us how it performs recording 4K but from what I have heard it works very well.

If the price of the 1D C falls further to say US$3,000 or US$ 3,500 I would be very tempted to just get that.
 
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Meh. I don't particularly mind feeding interesting trolls, but this little one's not worth the effort.

PureClassA said:
Because I can read the Nikon specs of the D4, D5, and the CaNon 1DX. That's why it's the only certainy right now. It's not "fantard" it's just simple observable facts comparing the two models. But I'm sure Neuro will have fun with this....

that1guyy said:
neuroanatomist said:
PureClassA said:
It seems to me the only thing Nikon has built for certain in the D5 is a finally worthy competitor to the 4 year old, retiring 1DX.... not the 1DX2.

+1

How do you know its not worthy of the 1DX II? Do you have a time machine that you know the specs of the 1DX II? Stop being a fantard.
 
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PureClassA said:
Well yeah! It's the exact same camera except for the cinema processors instead of the Digic Chips and a different firmware. Otherwise it's identical.

Apart from the headphone jack and sensor heat sink the 1DC has and the 1DX doesn't, and the Digic chips are the same. Otherwise they are identical :)
 
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