Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Being Tested by Photographers

HurtinMinorKey said:
The fps second and the resolution won't matter if it turns out to be the intentionally mushy compressed crap that came out of the 5D3.

Agreed. I will consider buying only if video quality is at least as good as the 1Dx2 and it does 4k@60fps. Video quality from the 7d2, my current camera besides the 5d3, is a joke compared to the gh4.
 
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fallsong said:
I am told that it is 28 MP and the shadow noise is still not very good. It has been tested for four months now.

But in overall, it is a good camera.

Since you only have four posts, I'll try not to be mean. But, we frequently see posts like yours which try to give the impression of having some inside knowledge. In order to be credible, you need to explain your source, otherwise it can just appear you are trolling.
 
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slclick said:
It really miffs me that we are not informed of a cutoff date for posting our personal spec selections before they finalize a product.

Meanwhile my 5D3 still works!

:) That's because the Canon development team keeps a running tab on Canon Rumors feature demands and keeps modifying the specs. They know that if they don't do so, Canon is doomed. The 5DIV was going to be announced in January, but they decided to delay it, so they could mine this site for additional feedback.

Based on what they have learned it will be a failed "mirrorslapper" that has somewhere between 20 and 45 mp.; between 3-18 fps, will shoot either 1080 HD, or 4K or 8K or 16K (or might not have any video at all because some people resent "paying" for video); either will or won't have a tilt screen, touch screen, wifi or gps; might have better dynamic range at base ISO; might have DPAF; is likely to have an autofocus system; and will have slots for memory cards.
 
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Am I just now noticing how many multiple screen-names are conversing with THEMSELVES?

Fortunately the troll bait has become so familiar that they are that desperate.

Good job, all legit posters, at not engaging the 4K, leaving-Canon DRones!
 
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unfocused said:
fallsong said:
I am told that it is 28 MP and the shadow noise is still not very good. It has been tested for four months now.

But in overall, it is a good camera.

Since you only have four posts, I'll try not to be mean. But, we frequently see posts like yours which try to give the impression of having some inside knowledge. In order to be credible, you need to explain your source, otherwise it can just appear you are trolling.

Believe it or not is your personal choice. Do you think it is appropriate to disclose the photographers' names to ruin their occupation?

I also have the information on 16-35 III/2.8 too. Having lots of posts doesn't mean credibility.
 
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fallsong said:
unfocused said:
fallsong said:
I am told that it is 28 MP and the shadow noise is still not very good. It has been tested for four months now.

But in overall, it is a good camera.

Since you only have four posts, I'll try not to be mean. But, we frequently see posts like yours which try to give the impression of having some inside knowledge. In order to be credible, you need to explain your source, otherwise it can just appear you are trolling.

Believe it or not is your personal choice. Do you think it is appropriate to disclose the photographers' names to ruin their occupation?

I also have the information on 16-35 III/2.8 too. Having lots of posts doesn't mean credibility.

Please, tell us a bit more then. Like FPS, video capabilities, etc.
 
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CanonGuy said:
Unfortunately I never record video with DSLR so these are useless for me (I'm sure some of you will find these very helpful though. So kudos to Canon). I'm a photographer and I need the 5D IV to be comparable to competition (canon is lagging like 2 years from competition with sensor tech). Step up in that area and take my money. Simple as that. Otherwise my next body will be the first non Canon body in my life. Ball is in your court. Just play it nice.

2 years behind? So with the 5D III at release they were 2 years ahead I guess...
 
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I strongly doubt the 5D4 will have 4K 60fps, although it would be the only feature that makes me buy two.
Canon will never do two steps when it comes to specs, and to protect the 1DX2 and C500II 60fps will be a no go.

In the year 2020, two years after all other manufacturers have implemented 4K 60fps in their lowest models, Canon will start to come up with it in the 5D5, probably to compete with the Sony A9 Mark4.
 
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I dont see this camera being over 28mp. Its not meant to be a direct competitor of the D800 anymore. Thats what the 5DsR is for. Also the 1Dx 2 had ZERO high iso low light noise improvement so if the 5d 4 cranks up the MPs youll see a camera thats actually worse in low light than the previous generation. Also if they cant make the MPs too high so they can protect the next 5Ds model. The next 5Ds really needs to directly compete with the a7R2.
 
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Please, tell us a bit more then. Like FPS, video capabilities, etc.
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I did not ask for. Sorry, I have no information on those. 28 MP is from one photographer who I am not 100% sure. But the second one telling me about the DR and noise is reliable. The second one is also testing the 16-35 III.

All I can say are these two are coming very soon and I will buy both of them.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
colorblinded said:
Same battery as the MKIII would be nice. Dual CFast I'd be OK with, but I'd like CFast/CF instead.

I think we'll get a new battery after reading between the lines, but I can't confirm it.

I'd be good with Dual CFast, I thought the CF/CFast setup of the 1DX2 was ideal, now that I have 2 CFast cards, I kind of wish it was dual CFast. I'm likely in the minority and totally understand why they did one of each.

This might be a good opportunity for Canon to do what Nikon offers, a choice of twin CF or twin XQD memory cards. Despite having a handy stash of fast high capacity CF cards, I'd get with the strength and tick the box for twin CFast.

-pw
 
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douglaurent said:
I strongly doubt the 5D4 will have 4K 60fps,


4k @ 60fps is about the same amount of data as 2k @ 120 fps. If the processor can handle one it should be able to handle the other, so computing power wise there is no problem. In my non expert opinion I would guess heating issue should not be any different either for channeling all that data through the pipeline. If the 5D4 comes without 4k/60, it will likely be a marketing decision. But does Canon really expect people to fork over several thousand more just to be able to do slow mo 4k ?

Keep in mind the upcoming Panasonic GH5 according to rumors is going to be a 4k powerhouse. It will also be 6k capable. If Canon wants to reclaim the indie market that it once dominated with the 5D2, this will be their opportunity.
 
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ahsanford said:
fentiger said:
can not see the 5D4 trumping the 1D2 on too many things, some thing has to give, my question is what?

Areas where the 5D4 will trump the 1DX2 -- they aren't that many or all that amazing, but here's my guess:

Certain: Less cost

Certain: Cheaper accessories, a larger accessories third party ecosystem, etc.

Certain: Less size/weight

Likely: a new/'first' feature that isn't on the 1DX 2 --> remember the 5D3 gave us silent shutter and in-camera HDR mode, the 7D2 gave us anti-flicker mode an in-camera timelapse mode, the 80D gave us DPAF, etc.

Possibly: Wifi onboard

Unlikely: Radio master onboard (I'm dreaming, but if this is *the* wedding photographer's camera, that's an awesome way to sell it)

Unlikely: A tilty-flippy screen (...if you call that 'trumping' the 1DX2, which most would say yes but there are still some holdouts)

- A

The 70D was the first with DPAF not the 80D. It's sad that DPAF is so often overlooked. I don't mean on here but in general review sites don't give it the attention it deserves. Just my opinion.... ::)
 
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The 1DX2 tells us a lot about the 5D4. That is, it won't be the equal or better on just about anything.

5D4 will win on resolution. But again, once past a certain ISO point, the 1DX2 will have better IQ.

If the same trend between the 1DX and 5D3 continues, then nothing will be better on the 5D4 except for max resolution, leading to better IQ at ISO 100 and 200 only.
 
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