Canon EOS 5D X Chatter Continues [CR0]

[Canon Rumors]

There has certainly been a lot more EOS 5D Mark III replacement chatter over the last week or so, and no we’re seeing more on forums from past “celebrity” posters.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57359074" target="_blank">From DPReview</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The timetable for the 5DX was messed up.  They were supposed to release it earlier last year, but it was. not meant to be.  Soon in the spring will come the 5DX with 28 megapixel sensor.</p></blockquote>
<p>“EOS 5D X” is now the new favoured moniker for the EOS 5D Mark III replacement, though we haven’t heard from anyone all that reliable that this is going to be what the camera is called. I’d also call the current sensor information unreliable. I just don’t think it’s going to be a 28mp camera, and we’re likely to see it around 24mp.</p>
<p>We’re going to see A LOT of this sort of information get passed around over the next little while, have some fun with it, but I’d put this one at CR0, based on the posters past history.</p>
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[RickWagoner]

yes it will have 4k...i guarantee it. Early Prototypes with limited functionality were tested a good bit last year in 5d2 bodies and 6d labeled bodies. The " select number of photographers " you speak of are Canon Ambassadors, the same people who have the Canon videos on new release. They have full functioning beta models but keep their mouths shut the best. Depending on how well Canon fulfills pre order of the 1dx2 after release and dealer stock then Canon will determine when the next 5D is going to be announced. It may come soon as NAB or will be put off until later this year if Canon is playing catch up on preorder or dealer stock of the 1dx2, they don't want the next 5D to hurt the first burst of 1dx2 sales like the 5d3 hurt the 1dx last time. They are ready to release the SL2 this year also, it will be a baby 70D in ways and will be a fun little SLR. No it will not have 4k as the 7D3 coming in 2017 will be the first Canon Crop to have that, Canon has a bunch of 7d3 testers in early forms in the states now btw. I don't know anything about the 6D personally and no one in the state's tests anything mirrorless from Canon ever..so no go for info there also.

 

[squarebox]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

EOS-1D Mark IV

 

[Orangutan]

yes it will have 4k...i guarantee it. Early Prototypes with limited functionality were tested a good bit last year in 5d2 bodies and 6d labeled bodies. The " select number of photographers " you speak of are Canon Ambassadors, the same people who have the Canon videos on new release. They have full functioning beta models but keep their mouths shut the best. Depending on how well Canon fulfills pre order of the 1dx2 after release and dealer stock then Canon will determine when the next 5D is going to be announced. It may come soon as NAB or will be put off until later this year if Canon is playing catch up on preorder or dealer stock of the 1dx2, they don't want the next 5D to hurt the first burst of 1dx2 sales like the 5d3 hurt the 1dx last time. They are ready to release the SL2 this year also, it will be a baby 70D in ways and will be a fun little SLR. No it will not have 4k as the 7D3 coming in 2017 will be the first Canon Crop to have that, Canon has a bunch of 7d3 testers in early forms in the states now btw. I don't know anything about the 6D personally and no one in the state's tests anything mirrorless from Canon ever..so no go for info there also.

How do you know all this? That's a lot of detail you're presenting as hard fact.

 

[expatinasia]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

Just to clarify this. The number four does not mean death, the word "shi" which is Japanese for four ("see" in Thai, "sei" in Cantonese "suh" in Mandarin) just sounds like the word for death.

Across Asia many buildings will not have a fourth floor. Some do, some don't depending on the owner and his/her beliefs.

 

[rs]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

Just to clarify this. The number four does not mean death, the word "shi" which is Japanese for four ("see" in Thai, "sei" in Cantonese "suh" in Mandarin) just sounds like the word for death.

Across Asia many buildings will not have a fourth floor. Some do, some don't depending on the owner and his/her beliefs.

The west have similar habits. Pretty much every airplane I've ever been on doesn't have a row numbered 13. It's precisely what I need - a plane relying on a blend of science and superstition to remain airborne.

 

[-1]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

EOS-1D Mark IV

Quick fix! 1D3...

 

[privatebydesign]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

Just to clarify this. The number four does not mean death, the word "shi" which is Japanese for four ("see" in Thai, "sei" in Cantonese "suh" in Mandarin) just sounds like the word for death.

Across Asia many buildings will not have a fourth floor. Some do, some don't depending on the owner and his/her beliefs.

The west have similar habits. Pretty much every airplane I've ever been on doesn't have a row numbered 13. It's precisely what I need - a plane relying on a blend of science and superstition to remain airborne.

Really? I can't find one that doesn't.

http://www.seatguru.com/findseatmap/findseatmap.php

 

[ExodistPhotography]

24MP? In the new 5D. I honestly can not understand why anyone would think this would be so. The 6D will be the full frame version of the 80D (give or take some minor specs) at 24MP. Canon has to market their camera comparable to others like Nikon and Sony. I feel strongly that the new 5D will be 36MP to be competitive with Nikon and Sonys FF cameras in this category, in addition it keeps the new 5D from being in competition with the 5DS line. Leaving a gap for the 6D2 at 24MP.. That said, there is no way Canon is going to make the new 6D 22MP and the new 5D 24MP.. It would kill any sails from both of those camera in comparison to what they still currently sale..

 

[ExodistPhotography]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

Just to clarify this. The number four does not mean death, the word "shi" which is Japanese for four ("see" in Thai, "sei" in Cantonese "suh" in Mandarin) just sounds like the word for death.

Across Asia many buildings will not have a fourth floor. Some do, some don't depending on the owner and his/her beliefs.

The west have similar habits. Pretty much every airplane I've ever been on doesn't have a row numbered 13. It's precisely what I need - a plane relying on a blend of science and superstition to remain airborne.

Yea they do I travel air at least every other month or so for the past 20 years.. Never seen one that didnt..
I also live in Asia, I have never seen any modern building that didnt have a 4th floor, but I am sure there may be a few old ones under old management that could. Have seen just a handful in the US that didnt have 13th floor.. Some Asian people can be very superstitious tho, at least older ones..

 

[frankchn]

24MP? In the new 5D. I honestly can not understand why anyone would think this would be so. The 6D will be the full frame version of the 80D (give or take some minor specs) at 24MP. Canon has to market their camera comparable to others like Nikon and Sony. I feel strongly that the new 5D will be 36MP to be competitive with Nikon and Sonys FF cameras in this category, in addition it keeps the new 5D from being in competition with the 5DS line. Leaving a gap for the 6D2 at 24MP.. That said, there is no way Canon is going to make the new 6D 22MP and the new 5D 24MP.. It would kill any sails from both of those camera in comparison to what they still currently sale..

Well the 5Ds is competitive with the high MP offerings from Sony and Nikon in terms of pure megapixel count. I do think if they include the on-chip ADC and make it 24 to 28 MP at 8 fps or so it will be quite popular.

 

[expatinasia]

I also live in Asia, I have never seen any modern building that didnt have a 4th floor, but I am sure there may be a few old ones under old management that could. Have seen just a handful in the US that didnt have 13th floor.. Some Asian people can be very superstitious tho, at least older ones..

There's plenty of new buildings too, just don't ask me to name them as it is not the sort of thing I remember. You just notice it when you are in the lift, then you forget all about it.

Of course, and just to confuse things, some people believe 13 is a lucky number and there are some Chinese who also believe that 4 is a lucky number. In Thailand for example you will often see number plates 444.

Sometimes it can be hard to generalise...

 

[RGF]

I wonder if they are staying away from the number four because of it being unlucky in Japan and meaning death, hence the X instead of mk4.

Excuse me if I'm stating the obvious here.

Just to clarify this. The number four does not mean death, the word "shi" which is Japanese for four ("see" in Thai, "sei" in Cantonese "suh" in Mandarin) just sounds like the word for death.

Across Asia many buildings will not have a fourth floor. Some do, some don't depending on the owner and his/her beliefs.

The west have similar habits. Pretty much every airplane I've ever been on doesn't have a row numbered 13. It's precisely what I need - a plane relying on a blend of science and superstition to remain airborne.

What airlines have you been flying? Check out seat guru. Most airlines have row 13 (or at least don't skip it).

Hotels on the other hand, often skip the 13th floor

 

[RGF]

24MP? In the new 5D. I honestly can not understand why anyone would think this would be so. The 6D will be the full frame version of the 80D (give or take some minor specs) at 24MP. Canon has to market their camera comparable to others like Nikon and Sony. I feel strongly that the new 5D will be 36MP to be competitive with Nikon and Sonys FF cameras in this category, in addition it keeps the new 5D from being in competition with the 5DS line. Leaving a gap for the 6D2 at 24MP.. That said, there is no way Canon is going to make the new 6D 22MP and the new 5D 24MP.. It would kill any sails from both of those camera in comparison to what they still currently sale..

Well the 5Ds is competitive with the high MP offerings from Sony and Nikon in terms of pure megapixel count. I do think if they include the on-chip ADC and make it 24 to 28 MP at 8 fps or so it will be quite popular.

Besides technical challenges, the sensor density (size is fixed at 24x36 mm) is a key marketing decision.

Canon could trump the Nikon D810. But the 5DS does that royally.

They could after medium speed FF camera, step below the 1DX M2 but much is needed? 5 FPS? 6 FPS? 8?

Personally I would rather see a 30+ MP camera. Since the 5DS is 5 FPS @ 50 MP, at 30 MP 8FPS should easily be doable.

 

[scottkinfw]

Can they do 36 MP, keep frame rate at 7 or 8, improve low light/DR in this body and have 4K plus other new "stuff"? Seems unlikely to me unless they have some revolutionary sensor and pipes to get it done. I may be wrong as I'm not tech literate, but for what I can tell, seems unlikely, as it would best the 1DXII in a number of specs. I'f Im wrong, please teach me.

Thanks.

sek

24MP? In the new 5D. I honestly can not understand why anyone would think this would be so. The 6D will be the full frame version of the 80D (give or take some minor specs) at 24MP. Canon has to market their camera comparable to others like Nikon and Sony. I feel strongly that the new 5D will be 36MP to be competitive with Nikon and Sonys FF cameras in this category, in addition it keeps the new 5D from being in competition with the 5DS line. Leaving a gap for the 6D2 at 24MP.. That said, there is no way Canon is going to make the new 6D 22MP and the new 5D 24MP.. It would kill any sails from both of those camera in comparison to what they still currently sale..

 

[Diltiazem]

I am surprised that you have quoted him, Craig. Everyone laughs at him at DPR.

Anyways, I agree with you about 28MP. It is highly unlikely. 24MP is more likely. My feeling is that DPAF would be the main reason not to go above 24MP. I mean, processing 56MP of data for image as well as for continuous AF at the same time would require lots of processing power, we are unlikely see it in current iteration (unless Canon uses Samsung's processing technology, very unlikely). There are other reasons too.

 

[M_S]

If indeed the camera should have been released early last year, then the tec in it is years old. This is very unlikely , even for canon in this day and age.
And get rid of the SD-card slot for crying out loud. Go double CFAST and be done with it. This different card nonsense is a pain in the ass.

 

[romanr74]

What about memory card slots? The former rumor said the next 5D camera will feature a CFAST and a SD slot. To me this would mean replace all my CF cards. I do not use SD card at all in my DSLRs. I'd rather have a CFAST and a CF slot and dismiss the SD one. Opinions?

 

[Maleko]

Go double CFAST and be done with it. This different card nonsense is a pain in the ass.

Not gonna happen. Even the new 1D doesn't have dual CFAST.