Canon EOS 6D Mark II Talk & Updated Roadmap [CR2]
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This forum is always entertaining.
People whine because they can't get 1D features for a 5D price.
People whine because they can't get 5D features for a 6D price.
It's been like this for years. I remember all the whining that occurred when the 60D came out and it wasn't as good as the 7D.
If Canon doesn't give you exactly what you want at half the price, they must be doomed.
People whine because they can't get 1D features for a 5D price.
People whine because they can't get 5D features for a 6D price.
It's been like this for years. I remember all the whining that occurred when the 60D came out and it wasn't as good as the 7D.
If Canon doesn't give you exactly what you want at half the price, they must be doomed.
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unfocused said:
Not my point: As technology gets old and before it gets obsolete, why not repackage it as the next model of a lesser model? Certainly cheaper to reuse 5D Mark III or 1Dx components in "new" models. Look at the pricing history, the 1Dx will sell for the same price as the 5D Mark IV when the 1Dx Mark II is in full swing. Certainly the case with the 1D Mark IV being priced just around the 5D Mark III when the 1Dx started shipping
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unfocused said:
100% right, but I'll always whine about the lack of spot metering at the selected AF point on my 5D3. That's not state of the art technology needed to shoot arctic foxes in -50F conditions. Hell, that functionality exists on Rebel-level gear on the Nikon side. That legitimizes my whine, IMHO.
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For what it's worth, I just ran across this video from World of Cameras & Lenses that purports to list what they say are "confirmed" 6D Mark II specs. (I saw it on the internet, so it must be true :-*)
If these specs are accurate, I may have to seriously consider selling my 7DII and my 6D (first gen) and get the 6D II. Certainly interesting and has everything I'd need in a single camera. (Currently I use my 7DII for BIF, sports, etc., and the 6D for landscapes, architecture, portraits, etc. But if these specs are accurate, I could see myself selling both my cameras to get this.
If these specs are accurate, I may have to seriously consider selling my 7DII and my 6D (first gen) and get the 6D II. Certainly interesting and has everything I'd need in a single camera. (Currently I use my 7DII for BIF, sports, etc., and the 6D for landscapes, architecture, portraits, etc. But if these specs are accurate, I could see myself selling both my cameras to get this.
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tiger82 said:
You can do that with some components (ask any T2i, T3i, etc. owner :
), but a lot of the tech doesn't grandfather into a smaller footprint. A dedicated chip for metering or a super-reinforced shutter for 400k actuations can't just be slapped into a different form factor body.We all want to cherry pick aspects of higher end rigs and distill them into a more affordable rig that has just what we want. But Person A values super high ISO performance, Person B values DPAF / touchscreen / video, etc. and it unravels from there. In the end, we saddle up to a segment that has 80% of what we want for our budget, but if we jump the shark and end up buying the pricier model, every box is checked off. Just like Canon planned.
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Canon Rumors said:
I think a key point here is this is YOUR speculative roadmap.
a few things.
no June-July release. Canon historically over the last 5 years as announced something in June / July as well as August/September.
70D was announced in July.
650D in June
EOS-M in July
Mirrorless has always marched to the beat of it's own drum on releases. the M was shipped in October on a June announcement, the M2 was announced late November. the M3 was planned to be released in December, and pushed back, stripped down some, and released in Feburary.
there's no evidence to suggest that Mirrorless and DSLR announcements are timed with respect to each other.
Also the mirrorless schedule makes no sense if canon is also release EF-M lenses this year.
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This is a disappointment but not really a surprise. I do not plan on buying a new Canon Camera until the 6D II comes out. It is a size issue, the 6D body size is far more convenient for me. I cannot see buying a 5D/7D size camera for general purpose use. They are just two big. The 6D is about the perfect size.
But if the 5D IV has 32 MP an articulating screen and it is a baby 1D X it could replace my 7D II for birds. If the 5D IV does not have those then I am not really interested. I keep considering a 5Dsr but do not want to carry it.
So how much more Sony equipment am I going to buy before they release the 6DII. And will I still care when they do. I still think Canon should consider releasing two cameras that have the same features but simple different body sizes. 5D IV and a compact 5D model. But what do I know. There are plenty of users on here that want the 5D cameras to have 1D bodies.
But if the 5D IV has 32 MP an articulating screen and it is a baby 1D X it could replace my 7D II for birds. If the 5D IV does not have those then I am not really interested. I keep considering a 5Dsr but do not want to carry it.
So how much more Sony equipment am I going to buy before they release the 6DII. And will I still care when they do. I still think Canon should consider releasing two cameras that have the same features but simple different body sizes. 5D IV and a compact 5D model. But what do I know. There are plenty of users on here that want the 5D cameras to have 1D bodies.
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Does anyone else ever read the comments here on CR and just start listing off things in their heads regarding the authors of said comments? Here's how mine go...
It appears that dude's native language is English, but he advanced no further than 9th grade.
That dude doesn't realize he's an idiot.
That dude should be set on fire. Or his genitals, at the very least, to keep him from procreating.
That dude actually sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
If that dude sent a rumor in, CR guy would stop reading at the 7th word.
This dude is "challenged" when it comes to understanding technology AND how businesses work.
and finally, the self-assessment...
I'm surrounded by (mostly) morons. What am I doing here? Oh yeah... these morons sure are entertaining!
It appears that dude's native language is English, but he advanced no further than 9th grade.
That dude doesn't realize he's an idiot.
That dude should be set on fire. Or his genitals, at the very least, to keep him from procreating.
That dude actually sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
If that dude sent a rumor in, CR guy would stop reading at the 7th word.
This dude is "challenged" when it comes to understanding technology AND how businesses work.
and finally, the self-assessment...
I'm surrounded by (mostly) morons. What am I doing here? Oh yeah... these morons sure are entertaining!
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RGF said:
But why not? Isn't the new 1DX mark II doing 16 fps?
Some people say the 5DX/IV won't have a 10-12 fps frame rate because it will eat up the sales of the 1DX Mark II. I don't think so.
Rather, I think it would create a sale that otherwise would not have happened, and move the 5D line into a very competitive position with other brands.
There is enough of a price difference between the two cameras that I think the markets are vastly different.
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tcmatthews said:
I'm on a similar page. I'm expecting around 30m-pix, this re-enforcement of only 24mpix is disappointing. This marginal increase seems like a day late and a dollar short. It will steer me towards the 5DSR instead. For 50mpix Ill carry a larger body but for 24mpix I wouldn't even consider the upgrade less a considerable bump in DR and ISO performance.
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