Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
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mattneto said:
doubtful...this rumor doesn't even have a CR rating. Press is one thing, announcing is another thing...but actually available? Let nikon have the press, and cross fingers that this spec list is false, and that canon can start shipping these out once announced! (why bother announcing a launch at all for this camera with this spec list)...
One thing about this rumor though that does have me thinking...
If correct, then a new sensor? Why a new sensor? We are all looking to the 1dx flagship for the trickle down (high ISO, lots of AF, fast). But, what if this sensor is actually derived from the big MP camera? Maybe it will end up being a sacrifice of AF for greater DR? It at least answers the Q of why a new sensor when they have both the 5d2 and 3 sensor to draw upon. But, it still makes no sense because the only way we'd be psyched on such a sensor is if the big MP cam was already out there (then this would be that bodies little brother)... I still think the better bet is that this rumor is totally false and meant to stir up trouble!
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If they are going for a 60D-sized body, they might not have been able to fit the 7D AF module in. They might have prefer to have the smallest and cheapest FF body instead.
Maybe we can get a sense of the size of the body by comparing the kit picture with the 5DIII kit? Here is something I did quickly. This is by no means perfect as the lenses are not exactly matching in the image but should provide a general idea.
I'm sure someone else can do a much better job ;D
Maybe we can get a sense of the size of the body by comparing the kit picture with the 5DIII kit? Here is something I did quickly. This is by no means perfect as the lenses are not exactly matching in the image but should provide a general idea.
I'm sure someone else can do a much better job ;D
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Cheap rebel T3, rebel T4i, 60D, 7D, 5DIII, 1Dx. The 5D II can't really even count as a "line" as it's not, just old and so cheaper now and obviously replaced. So basically that is the line up. It seems rather certain canon has to be in the process of coming out with a big megapixel camera. Surely there is a need to battle this with a great sensor.... http://www.fredmiranda.com/5DIII-D800/index_controlled-tests.html . They have everything else covered. I don't get how it's possible for them to even put out something under the 5D III. Though yeah a $2000 D600 gives them problems with that. It seems as though whatever was going to come out for the big megapixel cam, would have to somehow have to try and fit in there. The 5D III should have been that, as far as their line goes. I don't see how a 7D II happens and winds up full frame. I don't see how they could just cancel the 7D and stick an underspec'd full frame cheaper 6D thing in there either. And of course it's possible they update the 7D to II and also stick out a 6D in there to compete with the D600. But then they'll have the 5D III, 1Dx and then also a big megapixel cam? At this point in the camera game, I don't see why they'd at all want so many cams. That is a lot. Course yeah no worse than pre-1Dx I guess.
All I know is I wish they had an answer to that D800 dynamic range and nil shadow noise already, as I'm ready to hop out of the rebel line again. And gasp, it matters to me, while speed and focus doesn't. Hopped up once before and had a 5D II for a while. It's going to feel pretty weird having the exact same camera as back then as the go to option lol. I will love it again 95% of the time. Till that image with big dynamic range comes along and I have to push the shadows, only to see vertical banding madness. If I didn't have a dirty, needs to be cleaned, 100-400 that would cost another grand to hop over to Nikon over... after cleaning, selling and replacing with Nikon equiv...I'd for sure be jumping to D800/Nikon for the first time in 9 years now. And the biggest aspect to this is, if canon had something to answer that, oh I think they'd be falling over themselves to get an announcement out there, before all those it matters to are gone.
All I know is I wish they had an answer to that D800 dynamic range and nil shadow noise already, as I'm ready to hop out of the rebel line again. And gasp, it matters to me, while speed and focus doesn't. Hopped up once before and had a 5D II for a while. It's going to feel pretty weird having the exact same camera as back then as the go to option lol. I will love it again 95% of the time. Till that image with big dynamic range comes along and I have to push the shadows, only to see vertical banding madness. If I didn't have a dirty, needs to be cleaned, 100-400 that would cost another grand to hop over to Nikon over... after cleaning, selling and replacing with Nikon equiv...I'd for sure be jumping to D800/Nikon for the first time in 9 years now. And the biggest aspect to this is, if canon had something to answer that, oh I think they'd be falling over themselves to get an announcement out there, before all those it matters to are gone.
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11 af points? they borrowed the AF System from sigma sd1 or pentax k5 ... who knows
if you want to bring on the market an affordable FF camera you have to price it lower than older FF models
current price here in italy are
5d mk2 1610.50€
nikon d700 1827€
so you have to cut down costs as much as possible
if you want to bring on the market an affordable FF camera you have to price it lower than older FF models
current price here in italy are
5d mk2 1610.50€
nikon d700 1827€
so you have to cut down costs as much as possible
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Although I don't want to believe these rumored specs, I'm starting to think more and more they are real for the simple fact that The 7D firmware was bumped to 2.0. Also, the specs are slightly better than the 5DMK2 except for the FF sensor which is why they are calling it a 6D instead of a replacement for the 5DMK2.
Of course, this is just speculation. Time will tell
I'll keep my 7D for now unless the reviews show otherwise or the specs are wrong.
Of course, this is just speculation. Time will tell
I'll keep my 7D for now unless the reviews show otherwise or the specs are wrong.
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DianeK said:
Diane,
One thing you said that I have to comment on, "a better sensor is going to give me better image quality." I truly believe the current belief the less noise, the more ultra sharp an image is, the better the image is a fallacy of the current "generation" of photographers. As they say, history repeats... do a google search for "pictorialists" and "straight" photography. A lot of parallels can be drawn with the current "instagram" and "dslr (for a lack of a better term)" types of photography. A cell phone camera image processed through instagram can stir and raise the same emotion as a dslr setup worth $7K. Back to my original point, "Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content."
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I was intrigued by that photo, so I downloaded a 5D III picture, and matched the size of the 24-105mm on both pictures. This is what it looks like. Significantly smaller than the 5D III. Looks like the deal.
If those specs are real, then that Nikon D600 + 24-85 kit lens are becoming more and more exciting.
If those specs are real, then that Nikon D600 + 24-85 kit lens are becoming more and more exciting.
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I just watched a movie (Salmon fishing in the Yemen) where the government PR chief in the beginning said something like "give me some piece of good news, something, anything to say"... the day after the D600 has been presented, even my aunt would have gotten some 6D specs published on canonrumors. :-[
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jfretless said:
I'll say it again ---it's NOT the content!!!! Take a bad photog and give them wonderful subject matter and you fail fail fail. Take a great photog and give them nothing and they may make you surprised! Part of being a photog is having the 'eye,' and part of that is seeing things, spotting things, noticing things that others do not see. A great photog can make a piece of trash look good - but a bad photog can make something that looks awesome appear to be a piece of trash..(ok, not said as i did originally)
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Chuck Alaimo said:
Not to dispute what you're saying - but that the discussion in a 6d specs thread heads into this direction proves that Canon might screw up big time if the price tag for the 6d is not a steal. But maybe they could add stickers to every camera box: "Please ignore the specs and the competition, it's all about you being a good photog!" :->
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Chuck Alaimo said:
Chuck,
I didn't know we were aruging...
I agree with everything you said, but I think you are only seeing part of my point. ...how about... would you agree that a great image has more to do with content rather than the technology used to capture the image? When I see a great image, the first thing that comes to mind is NOT what kind of camera was used.
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JBL said:cpw has an image of the 6D.
Now this looks like a hires pic.
Two things are different. There is this nice little "lock" button on the mode dial. This is diffrent from the lower built EOS. This wasn't there on the 7D not on the 5D2. That was available as a 400 bucks upgrade.
The mode dial of the 60D is more rounded on top. This mode dial is different from 7D, 60D. Looks more like the one from 5D3.
The plastic covers of the connectors is different from the 60D or other EOS bodies. Looks like something new. Obvious if we assume that there is a GPS build in. A99 has built in GPS.
When I saw the first leaked 5D3 images from the safari guy, everyone doubted that it was a new body. Only the new M-FN button and the power on switch were revealing a new body.
I guess that the pic is true, but the specs must be wrong. The specs were changing all the time for the 5D3 too. Same applies to the 6D. Look back to the initial rumors of 2011 on 6D
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Martin
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BUILT-IN GPS & WIFI
!!!
WHAT TOOK THEM SO G*****N LONG?!?
(and yes - i'm yelling!!)
we can put gps in these teeny-tiny cellphones that teenage girls slip into their front pockets, it can connect to every wifi standard (PLUS cell ph tower) known to man.......... yet a ten pound canon 1DX can't seem to fit those tiny lil circuits into its MASSIVE body
!!!
WHAT TOOK THEM SO G*****N LONG?!?
(and yes - i'm yelling!!)
we can put gps in these teeny-tiny cellphones that teenage girls slip into their front pockets, it can connect to every wifi standard (PLUS cell ph tower) known to man.......... yet a ten pound canon 1DX can't seem to fit those tiny lil circuits into its MASSIVE body
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MartinM
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I am surprised about how much anger and disappointment is in these discussion.
I was always thinking that me, with my Olympus E-5 gear was on the poor side. Now I am noticing that the Canonians are no different.
I am a two system owner and both vendors don't seem to get it right ...
Cheers
Martin
I was always thinking that me, with my Olympus E-5 gear was on the poor side. Now I am noticing that the Canonians are no different.
I am a two system owner and both vendors don't seem to get it right ...
Cheers
Martin
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