Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
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I think these specs are all bogus. Canon are just trying the Apple PR - method. Say nothing, comment nothing, just release what they want, when they want. They look at these forums and laugh their ass off! Why? Because, if people were not interested in their product they would just ignore them. Instead people are yelling and shouting and cursing, which mean they are dedicated. That is all canon need to know, because their lenses are what keeps the amateur, hobbyist and professional shooters loyal to the canon camp, as they/we are heavily invested in all the glass. P&S buyers and first time DSLR buyers just buy what the salesman says.
So, do I think the 6D is for real with these specs? No, but Canon wont rush to prove otherwise, just because we are yelling at these forums. They really really don´t care, because no matter how much we scream and shout here, when the cameras are in the store, we buy them anyway.
So, do I think the 6D is for real with these specs? No, but Canon wont rush to prove otherwise, just because we are yelling at these forums. They really really don´t care, because no matter how much we scream and shout here, when the cameras are in the store, we buy them anyway.
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Marsu42 said:
You said it right, most.
My 5D3 does neither have USB3 nor a built in GPS, nor support for UHS-1. My 90MB/s SD card is slowed down to 45MB/s.
Looks like the 6D is gone have some of these missing things. UHS-1 and USB3 is a standard today.
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Pitbullo said:
Could be true - and Canon might even have slipped bogus horrible specs so everyone will be pleasantly surprised if the real thing is announced in October because it's a little better than expected! Delivery will take until October 2013 anyway.
MartinM said:
I guess the sd card slowdown is just braindead money saving and because the Canon testers only used fast cf cards and the sd as a jpeg backup, so no one had a problem with crippling the controller. Same goes for USB3, they might use a card reader in the pc which puts less strain on the camera connector. Concerning gps - let's see if it'll have a preicse heading, just for position I'd prefer a logger in my pocket with its own battery.
But I fear Canon will not upgrade tech in the 6d, just downsize it - the 5d3 is just too new too leave it look outdated. The one thing I can imagine is phase af pixels on the sensor for live view like on the 650d.
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As much as I would like USB3 it is hard to say it's a standard feature in DSLR bodies yet. Both the Sony A99 and the Nikon D600 use USB2 so I don't see any motivation for Canon to do that here. Now, if the camera is going to use SD as its storage medium then it would be a crime not to support UHS-I.
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I think these specs make a lot of sense. For the REAL beginner, this is a pretty darn nice camera. This is basically a Super Rebel. And I really like Rebels. Yes, the 1/4000 shutter speed isn't great. But even as a semi-pro, I rarely use it. An amateur even less.
I see this as a $1200 - $1500 camera. So it will under-cut the Nikon D600 by about $500 if I am right. If I was a beginner and wanted full-frame at the lowest price, I'd have to choose the Canon. I consider the Nikon to be a better camera, sans the metal body. But money is money.
Except for the shutter speed, this really does replace the old 5DMKII. If I had to choose between the 5DMKII and the 6D, it would be a tough call. Performance vs. Features. As a semi-pro, performance is more important and it's the 5DMKII.
But there is a large price gap now. It would make sense if they put in this new 20MP full-frame sensor and built-in WiFi/GPS into a 7DMKII and price it right there in the middle. That would be a damn fine camera.
I see this as a $1200 - $1500 camera. So it will under-cut the Nikon D600 by about $500 if I am right. If I was a beginner and wanted full-frame at the lowest price, I'd have to choose the Canon. I consider the Nikon to be a better camera, sans the metal body. But money is money.
Except for the shutter speed, this really does replace the old 5DMKII. If I had to choose between the 5DMKII and the 6D, it would be a tough call. Performance vs. Features. As a semi-pro, performance is more important and it's the 5DMKII.
But there is a large price gap now. It would make sense if they put in this new 20MP full-frame sensor and built-in WiFi/GPS into a 7DMKII and price it right there in the middle. That would be a damn fine camera.
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My question is: if it is indeed 20MP, why the heck did they develop yet another FF sensor? Or are these things now as easy to sling together as a happy meal from mcdonalds? Surely it would have cost less to make dumbed-down slower versions of either the 5dIII or 1DX sensors (or maybe even re-jig the old 5dII sensor) than to develop yet another one from scratch?
Perhaps they needed to go the route of yet another FF sensor because it's their first FF design with an integrated phase-detect AF sensor like the 650D?
Perhaps they needed to go the route of yet another FF sensor because it's their first FF design with an integrated phase-detect AF sensor like the 650D?
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Re: Canon is out foxed.
Your post is interesting in so far as this "pixel counting" is the exact thing most inexperienced users will do, and that drives the sales of the bulk of non-pro camera bodies.
Of course if you look at the resulting picture sizes no one gives a damn about the differences between 18mp and 24mp, if you want a real usable difference it's 36mp+ like the the d800. It's much more about iso performance, dynamic range at various iso levels, camera firmware features like af tracking, handling and build quality. All these things aren't in the "core" specs but are much more important than a little more or less mp.
dilbert said:
Your post is interesting in so far as this "pixel counting" is the exact thing most inexperienced users will do, and that drives the sales of the bulk of non-pro camera bodies.
Of course if you look at the resulting picture sizes no one gives a damn about the differences between 18mp and 24mp, if you want a real usable difference it's 36mp+ like the the d800. It's much more about iso performance, dynamic range at various iso levels, camera firmware features like af tracking, handling and build quality. All these things aren't in the "core" specs but are much more important than a little more or less mp.
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For the price, the specs sound acceptable, but the details are going to make it or break it for me. More specifically, the combination between an autoexposure that exposes the subject properly (meaning low light or backlit scenes) and shadow recovery (so I can use the RAW to get around the bad autoexposure).
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Nikon D600 got a very positive preview from Imaging-Resource
"Many of you will doubtless find yourselves equally impressed--not just with the samples, but with what this camera offers in terms of bang for the buck. That's almost certainly going to mean demand outstrips supply for the foreseeable future. Our advice? Get in queue now, before it gets even longer."
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/13/hot-off-the-press-huge-nikon-d600-gallery-posted
"Many of you will doubtless find yourselves equally impressed--not just with the samples, but with what this camera offers in terms of bang for the buck. That's almost certainly going to mean demand outstrips supply for the foreseeable future. Our advice? Get in queue now, before it gets even longer."
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/13/hot-off-the-press-huge-nikon-d600-gallery-posted
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vuilang said:
Agree with you!
At least an articulated screen, CF cards!, built in time-lapse, something new for who love taking video ecc....
Without these features, for the first time in my life I will buy a Nikon camera: D600........
COME ON CANON!!! WAKE UP!!!
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Most likely, these specs are just made up, because:
a) "APS-C Sized body" doesn't make any sense. Maybe some bits were lost in translation, so we've got "APS-C Sized body" instead of "APS-C Sized sensor" and those are 70D specs.
b) "11 AF Points, f/2.8 Cross-type in the center" doesn't make much sense as well. How many cross-type in the center? 1? 5? 7? 60D and 650D got all 9 cross-type.
c) If "APS-C Sized body" somehow means that it is smaller than 5D/1D, then I doubt that it would be xD series camera. SD card slots are reasonable for smaller bodies. However, a single SD card slot in $2000 body is just ridiculous and if they did that just to keep the price as low as possible, then the "Built-in Wifi & GPS", "Weathersealed" body and a new FF sensor doesn't make sense at all.
d) IMHO, only 5D(something) can replace the 5D2. Writing random numbers on cameras is a Nikon thing, not Canon. Let's call it 5D2minusCF ;D
a) "APS-C Sized body" doesn't make any sense. Maybe some bits were lost in translation, so we've got "APS-C Sized body" instead of "APS-C Sized sensor" and those are 70D specs.
b) "11 AF Points, f/2.8 Cross-type in the center" doesn't make much sense as well. How many cross-type in the center? 1? 5? 7? 60D and 650D got all 9 cross-type.
c) If "APS-C Sized body" somehow means that it is smaller than 5D/1D, then I doubt that it would be xD series camera. SD card slots are reasonable for smaller bodies. However, a single SD card slot in $2000 body is just ridiculous and if they did that just to keep the price as low as possible, then the "Built-in Wifi & GPS", "Weathersealed" body and a new FF sensor doesn't make sense at all.
d) IMHO, only 5D(something) can replace the 5D2. Writing random numbers on cameras is a Nikon thing, not Canon. Let's call it 5D2minusCF ;D
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I actually spoke to a Canon salesperson today, and he said there were "rumors" within the company, that a new cheaper FF is in the works. Metal body, price just a little less than a 7D. If this is the one he was speaking of, I'd be first in line. These specs for 2k = joke. These specs for 1.2k = GIEF!
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