Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed

[Marsu42]

Not sure, but I can tell you what I think/hope it is...a switch to toggle through AF point selection modes (auto, zone, single, spot, expansion). Currently that requires too many button presses, IMO.

If Magic Lantern should ever make it to the 7d2, that's what you can add for yourself with ML as the Canon DryOS hooks for set-this-and-that-af and react-to-this-and-that key are well known. As my models don't have a joystick, I never bothered but added functions to the cursor keys.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Not sure, but I can tell you what I think/hope it is...a switch to toggle through AF point selection modes (auto, zone, single, spot, expansion). Currently that requires too many button presses, IMO.

If Magic Lantern should ever make it to the 7d2, that's what you can add for yourself with ML as the Canon DryOS hooks for set-this-and-that-af and react-to-this-and-that key are well known. As my models don't have a joystick, I never bothered but added functions to the cursor keys.

I wasn't aware that ML allows you to add functions, is this something anyone can do, or do you have to go into the software and then compile your own version?

I have downloaded ML a few times, but never actually installed it.

 

[Marsu42]

I wasn't aware that ML allows you to add functions, is this something anyone can do, or do you have to go into the software and then compile your own version?

That's open source for you. There are two options: a) add your own module, but you need to program in C and spend some time getting to know how ML and Canon DryOS works; b) add some joe-sixpack easy script with the ML api. The latter is currently wip, look at the ML site for the status.

In each case it's not done between coffee breaks I'm afraid to say. But it's worth it because at least I am by now really able to customize control my camera (mainly buttons and exposure with auto_iso). ML is the real reason I stayed with Canon when I had the opportunity to switch back when I didn't have that many equipment.

If you cannot do it yourself: 1. Try ML for all the functions it has out of the box; 2. if you miss something add a feature request to their forum. Customizing the af with the joystick certainly sounds like a suggestion other 7d/5dx owners might pick up.

 

[Quest for Light]

Will maybe buy one for my 600mm f4.
Only Canon lens i still have.

For all other kind of shooting i switched to Nikons D800E.

 

[JRPhotos]

SD or Compact flash?

 

[Quest for Light]

SD or Compact flash?

Maybe read the specs on the frontpage?

 

[JRPhotos]

What's the benefit of using CF and SD in the same camera?

 

[Marsu42]

What's the benefit of using CF and SD in the same camera?

* users can keep their legacy sd cards when upgrading from a xxxd/xxd camera
* sd cards are very handy as many mobiles/laptops have built-in readers != cf
* less space used in the camera body than 2xcf

 

[Waka]

What's the benefit of using CF and SD in the same camera?

* users can keep their legacy sd cards when upgrading from a xxxd/xxd camera
* sd cards are very handy as many mobiles/laptops have built-in readers != cf
* less space used in the camera body than 2xcf

Could we use an SD wifi card to get round the lack of wifi?

W.

 

[Marsu42]

Could we use an SD wifi card to get round the lack of wifi?

Here's the answer :-> ... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eye-fi+compatibility

 

[AvTvM]

What's the benefit of using CF and SD in the same camera?

none. Camera body is more than fat enough to house dual CF slot.

It just causes hits to shooting speed due to a slow SD card slot in many settings (eg. RAW to CF, JPG to SD).
Mixed CF/SD slots are likely to cause similar issues as on 5D III.
SD is only UHS I, not UHS II (which is implemented on Fuji X-T1 for example).

 

[WarrenZ]

Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications - Why Canon, Why? This is it?

As an owner of the 7D, the specs just doesn't seem to make me want to buy this as soon as it comes out. The way I look at it, this camera represents the top of the crop line for Canon for then next 4 years --- 2018 -2019. It has no 4k, no RAW 1080p, no wifi and no sd uhs-ii. Now don't get me wrong, Canon makes solid products and I know the 7D Mark II will be a solid product in terms of performance and reliability, but Canon is just playing this way too safe. They are heading to fall behind the competition.

Tethered shooting is very nice and Canon had the opportunity to cut the cord with this, but no such luck, no WIFI -- wild ..I guess they still want to sell 800 WIFI add-ons which is completely bonkers to purchase. Would be nice to have some 4k in this body and maybe Im pushing it a bit, but at a minimum throw in RAW 1080p, the magic lantern guys are whipping up Magic with RAW video, does canon do anything to integrate that no! just 1080p60 with the same washed out codec is a waste of time. I am 100% team canon but man, they don't even have a high MP body, another one clocking in at 20MP.

Coming out with this camera with SD UHS-I is the clearest indicator that canon will never adopt uhs-ii until 2019 -- sorry canon 5D MarkIV guys, this is a big sign of disappointment to come. I will remain with Canon for stills, but they offer zero for video. Since video is a non event, the new focusing system as awesome as it is will not be used by me since I wont use video Long story short, I held out for years hoping the world for the 7D2, but canon played it WAY timid. I will just go full frame with a 6D. Canon, please stop stunting you products to protect your expensive Cinema Line by churning up tired features for the bottom end. 1080p60!!!!, wow how awesome...signing off.

 

[that1guyy]

As an owner of the 7D, the specs just doesn't seem to make you want to buy this as soon as it comes out. The way I look at it, this camera represents the top of the crop line for Canon for then next 4 years --- 2018 -2019. It has no 4k, no RAW 1080p, no wifi and no sd uhs-ii. Now don't get me wrong, Canon makes solid products and I know the 7D Mark II will be a solid product in terms of performance and reliability, but Canon is just playing this way too safe. They are heading to fall behind the competition.

Tethered shooting is very nice and Canon had the opportunity to cut the cord with this, but no such luck, no WIFI -- wild ..I guess they still want to sell 800 WIFI add-ons which is completely bonkers to purchase. Would be nice to have some 4k in this body and maybe Im pushing it a bit, but at a minimum throw in RAW 1080p, the magic lantern guys are whipping up Magic with RAW video, does canon do anything to integrate that no! just 1080p60 with the same washed out codec is a waste of time. I am 100% team canon but man, they don't even have a high MP body, another one clocking in at 20MP.

Coming out with this camera with SD UHS-I is the clearest indicator that canon will never adopt uhs-ii until 2019 -- sorry canon 5D MarkIV guys, this is a big sign of disappointment to come. I will remain with Canon for stills, but they offer zero for video. Since video is a non event, the new focusing system as awesome as it is will not be used by me since I wont use video Long story short, I held out for years hoping the world for the 7D2, but canon played it WAY timid. I will just go full frame with a 6D. Canon, please stop stunting you products to protect your expensive Cinema Line by churning up tired features for the bottom end. 1080p60!!!!, wow how awesome...signing off.

Great first post. Wholeheartedly agree.

And now a particular someone will come and tell us how about how Canon is #1 in sales and don't need to innovate. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications - Why Canon, Why? This is it?

Tethered shooting is very nice and Canon had the opportunity to cut the cord with this, but no such luck, no WIFI -- wild ..I guess they still want to sell 800 WIFI add-ons which is completely bonkers to purchase.

If all you want is tethered shooting, just buy an EyeFi card. That's what they're for. No need for Canon's stupidly expensive WiFi module.

 

[e_honda]

As an owner of the 7D, the specs just doesn't seem to make you want to buy this as soon as it comes out.

As a former 7D owner (moved to 5DM3), I agree. It's nice and all, but this would've been considered a good incremental improvement if it came out 24-36 months ago. It's just a disappointment considering its now become a 5 year gap.

I pretty much saw it coming when the 70D came out that the 7D II, if it was to come out, would end up using the same sensor. Kind of getting used to these underwhelming improvements from Canon.

I hope it's higher ISO performance is at least a decent improvement. Otherwise I don't see much incentive for a current 7D owner to "upgrade" to this new one.

 

[privatebydesign]

The 5D IV is now the real milestone...that's the one to watch. If Canon misses on the sensor IQ front for the 5D IV.........

I don't agree, the 1Ds was a groundbreaking camera, as were the 1Ds MkII and 1Ds MkIII. I can easily see Canon putting it all into a 1Ds MkIV/1DXs, then let that trickle down to the 5D MkIV.

Given their sensor output up until now I see the real reason for the 1 series 1DX "amalgamation" was Canon's inability to make that mythical >35MP, they couldn't make a 1Ds MkIV two years ago, who knows if they can now. I certainly know there is a heavy built up demand from 1Ds MkIII users, myself included, to upgrade our equipment, personally I am more interested in a 1DX MkII (22MP >10fps) than most 1Ds MkIII users who want >35MP and 6 or so fps.

But I believe the truth is most long term 1Ds MkIII users are more interested in the upgrade for business reasons than pure IQ issues, sure more whatever will be nice, but most of us have made good enough livings with what we have and our output is not limited by IQ.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications - Why Canon, Why? This is it?

Tethered shooting is very nice and Canon had the opportunity to cut the cord with this, but no such luck, no WIFI -- wild ..I guess they still want to sell 800 WIFI add-ons which is completely bonkers to purchase.

If all you want is tethered shooting, just buy an EyeFi card. That's what they're for. No need for Canon's stupidly expensive WiFi module.

Speaking as a regular tethered shooter who owns and uses WFT's and EyeFi cards, as well as long USB cables and even longer Ethernet cables, I have to say I would never buy a camera that doesn't have a WFT.

There is no comparison between using an EyeFi card and a WFT, the WFT is leagues ahead.

 

[Marsu42]

Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications - Why Canon, Why? This is it?

It has no 4k, no RAW 1080p, no wifi and no sd uhs-ii.

Never mind 4k, but still using the ancient sd standard is really embarrassing. Basically that means that deny accepting that Magic Lantern raw video has found a important place in the Canon world and generates a lot of good publicity and sales for Canon. But raw video is useless unless the interface is fast enough. Let's at least hope it supports *full* uhs-speed and not something like 20mb/s on the 6d :-o

Btw welcome to the forum

 

[bardamu]

Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications - Why Canon, Why? This is it?

Now don't get me wrong, Canon makes solid products and I know the 7D Mark II will be a solid product in terms of performance and reliability, but Canon is just playing this way too safe.

"Solid" but "way too safe". Excellent choice of words, you really nailed it.

I would also have liked to see Canon be a bit more adventurous with this release. Throw in something surprising - 1.5 crop factor, 24MP (or maybe even 16??), new sensor tech, ?hybrid viewfinder... Having said that, for my purposes (and those of many other people) this could be a very fine camera. Will just have to weigh up my options. I could get a (second) 70D + an excellent lens instead at current prices.

Perceptions could change upon the release of the actual product, and the first reviews, or course. Tomorrow!?

 

[privatebydesign]

The 5D IV is now the real milestone...that's the one to watch. If Canon misses on the sensor IQ front for the 5D IV.........

I don't agree, the 1Ds was a groundbreaking camera, as were the 1Ds MkII and 1Ds MkIII. I can easily see Canon putting it all into a 1Ds MkIV/1DXs, then let that trickle down to the 5D MkIV.

Given their sensor output up until now I see the real reason for the 1 series 1DX "amalgamation" was Canon's inability to make that mythical >35MP, they couldn't make a 1Ds MkIV two years ago, who knows if they can now. I certainly know there is a heavy built up demand from 1Ds MkIII users, myself included, to upgrade our equipment, personally I am more interested in a 1DX MkII (22MP >10fps) than most 1Ds MkIII users who want >35MP and 6 or so fps.

But I believe the truth is most long term 1Ds MkIII users are more interested in the upgrade for business reasons than pure IQ issues, sure more whatever will be nice, but most of us have made good enough livings with what we have and our output is not limited by IQ.

I don't disagree that the 1D line is an important line of cameras for Canon, but I think the 5D line is their bread and butter pro body, and it's the one that competes with the D800s and D750s and A7rs. For those who DO care about IQ, who are also more likely than not to be UNable to afford the 1D line, I think the 5D IV is the milestone marker for those who are interested in the sensor IQ side of things.

If Canon doesn't step up and put a brand spankin shiny new sensor with some significant technological improvements on a smaller process, that greatly improves DR...even if it isn't a big MP camera...hell, it could be 24 mp in the 5D IV really...I think that tells those of us who want better sensor IQ whether were going to get it before 2019 or not. If not...hell, no freakin reason to sit around waiting for Canon to do something. It'll then be years before they do. It's way past time, and if they don't do it in the 5D IV, I don't think they are going to do it until it's way too late.

We have so much choice available to us now in the camera world there is never a reason to sit around and wait for anything. Your particular list of wants is the easiest to encompass and has the most realistic options available. Don't think for a second your perfect camera is going to come from anywhere, there will always be features from other manufacturers you decide you want, when Canon do come out with a next generation sensor then EVF's from others will be much better, their sensors will be onto another generation too etc etc.

Get what you need to take the images you want or need to take now, we might be dead tomorrow.