Canon EOS M2 Gets Official in Asia, Not Coming to the USA or Europe?

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<strong>UPDATE</strong>
I’m starting to think we won’t be seeing the Canon EOS M2 released in the United States or Europe. No retailer has contacted us about preorders, there is no press release from Canon USA or Canon UK, and my contact at Canon Canada didn’t even know the camera was coming.</p>
<p>If you recall, the Canon EF-M 11-22 IS STM lens is not officially available in the United States, though you can buy it in Canada.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><strong>The Canon EOS M2

</strong><a href="http://www.canon.com.cn/products/camera/eos/lineup/m2/index.html" target="_blank">Canon China</a> and <a href="http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2013-12/pr-eos-m2.html" target="_blank">Canon Japan</a> have outed the new Canon EOS M2. A slightly smaller replacement for the Canon EOS M.</p>
<p>The biggest new features appear to be the Wifi capabilities, Servo mode when shooting video and a faster autofocus system with the new “Hybrid CMOS AF II”.</p>
<p>The camera is set for a mid December release in Japan, There has been no official word from Canon USA as of yet.</p>
<div id="attachment_15092" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo01_b.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-15092" alt="Canon EOS M2 Front" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo01_b-575x394.jpg" width="575" height="394" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Canon EOS M2 Front</p></div>
<div id="attachment_15093" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo02_b.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-15093" alt="Canon EOS M2 Back" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo02_b-575x394.jpg" width="575" height="394" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Canon EOS M2 Back</p></div>
<div id="attachment_15094" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo03_b.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-15094" alt="Canon EOS M2 Top" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/photo03_b-575x394.jpg" width="575" height="394" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Canon EOS M2 Top</p></div>

 

[mackguyver]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

...but will they sell it in the U.S.?

 

[Zlyden]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

I just wonder what is the purpose of rectangle with "EOS M2" on top of the camera (on left from hot-shoe, where "L" and "R" mics where on "EOS M")?

Is it something like "plastic cover for Wi-Fi antenna"?

PS: Mics are obviously moved to the front -- should be much better!

 

[dufflover]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

Eagerly await comparisons with the original M ... and the price!
Obviously won't be much difference IQ wise, but I have to admit as content as I am with my EOS-M (given the price) I wouldn't mind the bump up of specs (AF, even though the original is "enough" for me), the smaller size, and the fps. And hopefully a shutter that won't sound so bloody clunky lol.
(WiFi I'm undecided ...)

Don't get me wrong, like I said in the other thread, it's a very "bleh" release. I'm just even more pessimistic about it having an appealing price!

The other issue being even a sell + trade up from an M to an M2 cheaply I imagine will still run into a couple of hundred, and would kill the original selling point which was the price for a compact APS-C even if a little outdated techwise. The total outlay would creep into buying a better compact mirrorless setup to begin with.

 

[Emil]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

So the rumors were true! Interesting, although I'm not yet convinced. Looking forward to see how the auto focus performs.

EDIT:
The video shown here includes a comparison of EOS M vs EOS M2 AF speed. Seems a lot quicker

http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2013-12/pr-eos-m2.html

 

[TrabimanUK]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

Yay! It's white! I'm sooo sold!

 

[Zlyden]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

Taking into account 6D Wi-Fi experience... EOS M2's 875 mAh battery will probably be empty before something like "Image Capture" finishes transfer of ~ 100 RAW+JPEGs to the computer.

Why they rotated remote control sensor? Design-thing?

Canon, if you listen, in "EOS M3" please move AF assist lamp to the left of the lens (where it will be more difficult to block with a thumb on zoom ring...). To save space, you can put the lamp inside "o" of "Canon" label...

 

[Lichtgestalt]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

disappointing that it is not the 70D sensor.

guess we will have to wait for the more pro oriented model to see better features.
this is not enough to make me buy a canon M.

the FPS are not good either for a mirrorless.

 

[sanj]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

If it had a viewfinder….

 

[EchoLocation]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

still no viewfinder or flash? i would have thought they would have made a little more premium type of version by now.
no new lenses at all? what about 24,50, or 85mm primes? I don't particularly care as I am content with the 11-22 and 22mm lenses I have, but you'd think Canon might try to put a little more in to the system besides there miniscule current lens selection.
this seems verrrry similar to the original to me. of course it has faster AF, how could it be any slower?
if this had a flash, I would buy it to replace my eos-m classic when the price goes down to 300 bucks again, but as it is I really have no use for an upgrade.
I'll be using my new Sony a7 95% of the time anyways.

 

[Zlyden]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

If it had a viewfinder….

...it might be called "SL1" or "100D"?

 

[Lichtgestalt]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

800$ with kit lens. again to expensive, like the first M.

i guess the price will drop very fast... again.

 

[sanj]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

If it had a viewfinder….

...it might be called "SL1" or "100D"?

True that. But there are other out there making cameras with same size sensor and viewfinder. Many include a flash as well. Many claim better high ISO.

 

[jebrady03]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

One thing that was initially supposed to be on the M but was removed prior to release was zooming during movie recording. Found this in the specs:

Digital zoom - You can set about 3-10 times zoom

Pretty cool.

 

[Bob Howland]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

I'll bet Canon USA is annoyed, unless they can get them on store shelves within a week or so. This announcement could interfere with Christmas sales of Rebels and 70D's. Furthermore, if Canon intends to introduce an upmarket M-system camera, why didn't they introduce that body first, like in September, while the original bodies were being sold at (presumably) a loss, then introduce this body later. That would give them two bodies to sell, with different capabilities and at different price points.

Any word on the price?

 

[Zv]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

disappointing that it is not the 70D sensor.

guess we will have to wait for the more pro oriented model to see better features.
this is not enough to make me buy a canon M.

the FPS are not good either for a mirrorless.

I think the reason we aren't seeing the 70D sensor in the M could be that Canon are trying to differentiate that as a higher end feature. Though we first see it in the mid range EOS 70D it still hasn't reached it's full potential. We are told the C100 will get the firmware upgrade that enables the Dual Pixel technology so it seems that Canon are saving it for the higher end cameras. My bet would be that the next camera to have Dual Pixel AF will be the 7D2. Doesn't make sense to put it in an EOS M before the 7D2. (Oh it makes perfect sense to us consumers but not to Canon's marketing department! )

Also, if you look at the rebel series, which I would place higher on the EOS scale than the M, we see regular incremental upgrades to the models. The t6i to t7i was barely an update at all! The M to M2 seems to be along the same lines of Canon's strategy.

Whatever, I mean did we really expect miracles?

Wonder how much this new M is gonna be, that's the real question. If it's $400 for the kit it will be a nice little P&S substitute for many.

As for lenses I do agree that one more prime would be nice. I've given up on that idea and decided to buy an FD adaptor and buy some cheap (but good) FD glass. Manual focus doesn't bother me at all. And that's the great thing about the M, you can use all kinds of lenses with it via adaptors.

As for built in flash - no, that is a stupid idea. As an off camera flash junkie I fully support Canon's decision there! Use the hotshoe, that's what it's there for!!!!

 

[Lichtgestalt]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

from the japanese price it will be around 800$ with kit lens.. 600$ body only.

i think we could expect the 70D sensor for that price if canon was really going into the mirrorless market. it sure would draw more attention to canons mirroless offering then the 18MP sensor.

i know i know... the 70D cost more. but cameras are more then their sensors.
i think there would be enough to separat them. look at the 60D when it was released and the rebel line.

i hope canon will announce that PRO model and it will show a commitment to the M line.

 

[Zv]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

disappointing that it is not the 70D sensor.

guess we will have to wait for the more pro oriented model to see better features.
this is not enough to make me buy a canon M.

the FPS are not good either for a mirrorless.

I think the reason we aren't seeing the 70D sensor in the M could be that Canon are trying to differentiate that as a higher end feature. Though we first see it in the mid range EOS 70D it still hasn't reached it's full potential. We are told the C100 will get the firmware upgrade that enables the Dual Pixel technology so it seems that Canon are saving it for the higher end cameras. My bet would be that the next camera to have Dual Pixel AF will be the 7D2. Doesn't make sense to put it in an EOS M before the 7D2. (Oh it makes perfect sense to us consumers but not to Canon's marketing department! )

Also, if you look at the rebel series, which I would place higher on the EOS scale than the M, we see regular incremental upgrades to the models. The t6i to t7i was barely an update at all! The M to M2 seems to be along the same lines of Canon's strategy.

Whatever, I mean did we really expect miracles?

Wonder how much this new M is gonna be, that's the real question. If it's $400 for the kit it will be a nice little P&S substitute for many.

As for lenses I do agree that one more prime would be nice. I've given up on that idea and decided to buy an FD adaptor and buy some cheap (but good) FD glass. Manual focus doesn't bother me at all. And that's the great thing about the M, you can use all kinds of lenses with it via adaptors.

As for built in flash - no, that is a stupid idea. As an off camera flash junkie I fully support Canon's decision there! Use the hotshoe, that's what it's there for!!!!

R U a paid fluffier from Canon. corporate? 8)

Yup, they pay me the big bucks to spout nonsense! Haha!

Well, think about it. Am I wrong?

 

[Zlyden]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

I'll bet Canon USA is annoyed, unless they can get them on store shelves within a week or so.

My assumption is that Canon (as many other large corporations) believes in statistics when it takes market decisions.

And judging by CIPA statistics primary mirrorless market is Japan (and Asia) where mirrorless hold about ~ 35% of "interchangeable lens cameras" market (the rest are DSLRs ~ 65%).

In Americas mirrorless is only 8-10% while DSLRs hold whole 90-92%.

So, what you see as "EOS M" and "EOS M2" are tiny cameras with minimalistic design that are targeted for Japan (in first place).

It's just like with the cars: if you are from USA you are supposed to drive Nissan Patrol, not Nissan Micra (and shoot with EOS 1D X + at least some EF 400 from its window... )

 

[Loswr]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

You know what I hate? When a new product launch makes you yawn so wide that flies get in your mouth.

So the rumors were true! Interesting, although I'm not yet convinced. Looking forward to see how the auto focus performs.

EDIT:
The video shown here includes a comparison of EOS M vs EOS M2 AF speed. Seems a lot quicker

http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2013-12/pr-eos-m2.html

Haven't watched the video, but does it specify that the M used for comparison has the v2 firmware?