Canon EOS M2 Gets Official in Asia, Not Coming to the USA or Europe?

[TWI by Dustin Abbott]

For what I want to accomplish with it, the original M is just fine. What I need is more lens options, particularly a compact telephoto. I tend to use the M as a backup and a compact option while traveling when I don't want to take out the "big dog". A compact telephoto would help me a lot, as I tend to bring my 70-300L along while traveling but only use it for a small percentage of my shots (I typically carry a 24-70 f/2.8 that sees all the action).

 

[sdsr]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

My assumption is that Canon (as many other large corporations) believes in statistics when it takes market decisions.

And judging by CIPA statistics primary mirrorless market is Japan (and Asia) where mirrorless hold about ~ 35% of "interchangeable lens cameras" market (the rest are DSLRs ~ 65%).

In Americas mirrorless is only 8-10% while DSLRs hold whole 90-92%.

So, what you see as "EOS M" and "EOS M2" are tiny cameras with minimalistic design that are targeted for Japan (in first place).

You may well be right. Doesn't matter to me because it doesn't seem much improved over the first version, which I hated using, and because I'm generally not persuaded that tiny camera bodies are a useful vehicle for anything other than small lenses - which most EF & EF-S lenses aren't. Over the past weekend you could (in the US) buy a Rebel SL1, kit lens included, for c. $400; makes more sense to me (I bought one a month or two ago for $450). For small size/weight, M43 still wins as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Zlyden]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

Did you read my entire post, because your "response" makes no sense?

Sorry, my post was not meant as any kind of 'personal remark' (someone could be offended by).

It was just a comment concerning this general topic "why EOS M2 was made and released as it is" (and incidentally "why you do not have EF-M 11-22" in USA).

In short: "This is because Canon thinks that they are still able sell a lot of DSLRs on western markets. So, why to harm the market you dominate with your own mirrorless system?" (If statistics to be believed -- It's quite different in Japan, there Canon has to fight for marketshare not only with Nikon, but with Sony and Olympus too...)

 

[AvTvM]

My main disappointment is that $800 for this device means the "big brother" will be absurdly expensive.

exactly.

A "higher-end" EOS M with 70D DPAF sensor and EVF will probably cost more than the FF-sensored Sony A7 [USD 1699 / € 1499,- ].

And as I said elsewhere, should Canon ever be "willing and able" to make a mirrorless cam with FF sensor, it will probably cost USD/€ 4000+ if it were competitive with the Sony A7R ... hi res FF sensor, market-leading DR [up to ISO1600 ], market-leading EVF [today ], articulated LCD, hi-grade Mg-alloy-body ...

 

[hiplnsdrftr]

Such a shame there is no built in flash... Could have been a nice alternative to a Panasonic GM1 or a Ricoh GR.

Using an external flash on this camera pretty much negates its small size advantage. If I want to mount my 580 on something I'll stick it on my 1Dx.

I'm fine with the lack of a viewfinder.

 

[Woody]

People that want small body cameras in the USA and Europe have already moved or jumped to other manufacturers and Canon is too late to the market. Canon realize this and hence why the other EOS-M lens has never been made available in the USA.

Wrong. (a) After severe price cut, the EOS M is selling well relative to other mirrorless cameras in the market, particularly the A7/A7R (b) In USA and Europe, DSLRs outsell mirrorless cams by 9.5:1 and 8.5:1 respectively, so there's no point in shipping mirrorless cameras to these continents now.

 

[kphoto99]

I tend to use the M as a backup and a compact option while traveling

I don't think that Canon wants you to use the M as a backup, your backup "should" be a more expensive Canon camera.

PS
"you" is not you Dustin, it is a generic you

 

[Zv]

I tend to use the M as a backup and a compact option while traveling

I don't think that Canon wants you to use the M as a backup, your backup "should" be a more expensive Canon camera.

PS
"you" is not you Dustin, it is a generic you

Wether they want to or not, it makes a freakin awesome back up cam. If there was a tele prime in M flavor it would be so useful when shooting with your wide angle on your DSLR. The 22mm does a great job as a kinda normal to wide range when doing a lot of telephoto stuff. Basically means not having to carry 2 large DSLRs all the time.

 

[Zv]

¥65,798 for body only on amazon. Hmmm a little bit steep. Based on prev amazon.jp initial release prices I'd say in about three months it will go down by ¥10,000.

 

[preppyak]

(b) In USA and Europe, DSLRs outsell mirrorless cams by 9.5:1 and 8.5:1 respectively, so there's no point in shipping mirrorless cameras to these continents now.

I was gonna say, everywhere I've gone lately, I've seen a lot of D5200's and a lot of T4i/T5i's...cant name the last time I've seen someone rocking a mirrorless camera in public. And this is throughout the US; in Oregon and Washington, in DC, in WV, in the northeast, and even recently in the Everglades. EVERYONE in the Everglades had a DSLR, except for the one guy that had an SX50.

 

[lw]

I declare the M2 the Canon ISON.

Everyone waiting with bated breath for the M2, only for it to never appear from behind the rising sun...

 

[justsomedude]

DOA

 

[martini]

Look Canon, no view finder and no flash? ****** it, I'm going to have to buy my wife a Sony Nex 6. Damn it.

 

[justsomedude]

Look Canon, no view finder and no flash? ****** it, I'm going to have to buy my wife a Sony Nex 6. Damn it.

Why do you think I just bought a Fuji x100? Canon is asleep at the wheel, and hopped up on Ambien and booze at the same time, while texting and driving.

 

[moreorless]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

If it had a viewfinder….

My guess is that we'll see something with one next year that maybe relaunched in the states.

 

[1Zach1]

I wouldn't mind a nice EVF, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I do wish it had an articulated screen though. I like that they finally added WiFi control, not having a way to remotely trigger the M is annoying.
I see no point for a built in flash, but that's just my preference.

 

[AlanK]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

So the rumors were true! Interesting, although I'm not yet convinced. Looking forward to see how the auto focus performs.

EDIT:
The video shown here includes a comparison of EOS M vs EOS M2 AF speed. Seems a lot quicker

http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2013-12/pr-eos-m2.html

The video also shows that the screen doesn't blank out after taking a picture. This is a welcome change that I wish could be upgraded on the M classic.

 

[unfocused]

(b) In USA and Europe, DSLRs outsell mirrorless cams by 9.5:1 and 8.5:1 respectively, so there's no point in shipping mirrorless cameras to these continents now.

I was gonna say, everywhere I've gone lately, I've seen a lot of D5200's and a lot of T4i/T5i's...cant name the last time I've seen someone rocking a mirrorless camera in public. And this is throughout the US; in Oregon and Washington, in DC, in WV, in the northeast, and even recently in the Everglades. EVERYONE in the Everglades had a DSLR, except for the one guy that had an SX50.

I'm surprised at the number of iPads I've seen lately. Even at the Grand Canyon, lots of people taking pictures with iPads. That may be the future of mirrorless.

I totally get Woody's point. Canon has been giving away the EOS M in the U.S. Why would they want to start giving away a new model?

 

[Zlyden]

(b) In USA and Europe, DSLRs outsell mirrorless cams by 9.5:1 and 8.5:1 respectively, so there's no point in shipping mirrorless cameras to these continents now.

I was gonna say, everywhere I've gone lately, I've seen a lot of D5200's and a lot of T4i/T5i's...cant name the last time I've seen someone rocking a mirrorless camera in public. And this is throughout the US; in Oregon and Washington, in DC, in WV, in the northeast, and even recently in the Everglades. EVERYONE in the Everglades had a DSLR, except for the one guy that had an SX50.

I'm surprised at the number of iPads I've seen lately. Even at the Grand Canyon, lots of people taking pictures with iPads. That may be the future of mirrorless.

iPads (and iPhones) is the future of 'compact cameras'

...and if you want to see a lot a weird cameras, you should go to vacation in some Asian country this Christmas.

Last year in Kota Kinabalu I actually was amazed by number of people carrying cameras that I saw before only on web-pictures -- like some 'brave new pink Pentax'. If you will see there someone with 5D3 + 70-200 + backpack full of other heavy lenses he probably will be from China (from some southern part like Sichuan, where they do assemble iPads, so it's not cool to carry them around), a guy with usual Canon/Nikon DSLR + kit lens bumping on his belly hanging on neck strap -- probably will be from Russia. It actually goes to: 'hey tourist, show me your camera and I will guess what country you are from'...

 

[zlatko]

Re: Canon EOS M2 Gets Official

So the rumors were true! Interesting, although I'm not yet convinced. Looking forward to see how the auto focus performs.

EDIT:
The video shown here includes a comparison of EOS M vs EOS M2 AF speed. Seems a lot quicker

http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2013-12/pr-eos-m2.html

The video also shows that the screen doesn't blank out after taking a picture. This is a welcome change that I wish could be upgraded on the M classic.

The AF looks very good. It looks like a fun camera.