Canon EOS M2 Gets Official in Asia, Not Coming to the USA or Europe?

[Zlyden]

If you're implying that Asians don't favour reliable long time investments...

Of course, I do NOT!

I just explicitly say that Europeans are a bit more 'conservative' when it comes to embracing brave new technologies, preferring 'old proved techs'.

PS: I actually was finally convinced that I need to make a leap from APS-C to FF by older guy from Singapore. We sat drinking beer somewhere in this city (on the next or second day after the 6D was introduced last year), he looked with a pity at my old cropped Canon and said that while he himself is a Nikon FF user, I do need to get full frame camera instead of this thing -- "you will understand later what difference it makes". And he was 100% right...

 

[optikus]

Sorry folks,

I understand what Canon does.

"M" first shot was a real desaster - I live here nearby Cologne and in most of my "dealers" the "M"-bodies lie at the place they were placed in delivery - other brands made the big numbers. Now - for reduced prices, this changes, but this in realted to the DSLR's a serious reason to reduce engagement in these markets. I think "M2" is a test baloon how reactions in the asian markets are and what reaction comes from Europe and the US - if there is a serious interest the analysts detect I expect "M2" on our markets too. But the demands for the system as a package with more attractive lenses and so on is here on a higher level then otherwhere - and Canon does good to avoid a second mess in introduction of a 'new' product family

Joerg

 

[unfocused]

Sorry folks,

I understand what Canon does.

"M" first shot was a real desaster - I live here nearby Cologne and in most of my "dealers" the "M"-bodies lie at the place they were placed in delivery - other brands made the big numbers. Now - for reduced prices, this changes, but this in realted to the DSLR's a serious reason to reduce engagement in these markets. I think "M2" is a test baloon how reactions in the asian markets are and what reaction comes from Europe and the US - if there is a serious interest the analysts detect I expect "M2" on our markets too. But the demands for the system as a package with more attractive lenses and so on is here on a higher level then otherwhere - and Canon does good to avoid a second mess in introduction of a 'new' product family

Joerg

Interesting.

As I said before, I see no reason for Canon to rush to market with a new model in the U.S. when they are currently having to basically give away the old model. I wasn't aware that it was the same way in Europe, but it sounds like it is – at least in Germany.

 

[Khufu]

Eugh... I want a firmware update right now to get me my 3-10x Video Crop Zoom that's printed on my EOS M box as a feature! Granted, there's a little, white sticker over the feature logo but it WAS printed on the packaging and included in Pre Production/Preview models then Canon chose to cripple the camera's capabilities super-last-minute... I was tempted to buy a 600D just for this, then hyped and ultimately disappointed about the EOS M features...

This whole M2 just seems like an M1.2 - Maaaaybe all but WiFi & shrinkage can be added via Firmware 3!

 

[AvTvM]

well Europe and Germany were handled differently by Canon as far as the EOS-M goes.
Most importantly, there never was a "fire sale". No chance ever to get an EOS M plus 22/2.0 plus 90EX for USD 299,- around here!

Currently in Germany EOS-M is sold in 2 kits only (not body only) - but each in black, silver or red color :

• EOS M + 18-55 + 90EX: lowest price incl. 19% VAT "sales tax" currently to be found is € 349 [USD 474] while at amazon.de it still starts @ € 399 [USD 529]
• EOS-M + 22/2.0 + EF-adapter + 90EX starts from € 599 [USD 813] and typically is well above € 600

As long as mirrorless cameras as poor as the EOS M are offered at prices like these ... we should not conclude that "the market" in Europe has "no interest" in mirrorless cameras, but rather wants big, clugdy mirrorslappin' DSLRs forever. Oh NO! Not true!

It's just that most Europeans are smart enough to refuse buying sub-par products at grossly inflated prices. Actually I am glad to see that Canon's refusal to build and market a fully competitive and decent mirrorless system has resulted in a real disaster for them. They are being ***punished*** 8) by the European market and the US as well. Well deserved debacle.

 

[candc]

i does not seem like canon put a lot of effort into marketing the m here in the states. i don't think i have ever seen an ad for one, they are not in any of the camera shops around here, best buy does not have them in the stores either. in fact i don't think i have ever seen one in person.

 

[dolina]

Oh my, the Philippines will be getting this before the US. Take that Apple!

 

[Woody]

It's just that most Europeans are smart enough to refuse buying sub-par products at grossly inflated prices.

Rubbish. Mirrorless cameras are simply not popular in Europe & N. America, regardless of brand and price. In Europe, for every mirrorless camera sold, 8.5 DSLRs are being sold. If you think Sony (or insert your favorite mirrorless camera manufacturer here, Olympus/Panasonic/Fujifilm etc) mirrorless cameras are selling well, think again.

 

[Woody]

Oh my, the Philippines will be getting this before the US. Take that Apple!

I am not sure if it's going to Philippines. Have you seen any official release? I think the EOS M2 will only be available in Japan and China.

 

[AvTvM]

It's just that most Europeans are smart enough to refuse buying sub-par products at grossly inflated prices.

Rubbish. Mirrorless cameras are simply not popular in Europe & N. America, regardless of brand and price. In Europe, for every mirrorless camera sold, 8.5 DSLRs are being sold. If you think Sony (or insert your favorite mirrorless camera manufacturer here, Olympus/Panasonic/Fujifilm etc) mirrorless cameras are selling well, think again.

Not rubbish. At 299 euro lots and lots of europeans - including many germans - would have bought an eos-m plus 22 lens. Unlile US citizens it was just never offered to them at that price. Probably canon thought europeans would be more stupid. Or they were sitting on much less special treatment eos m waste around here.

Anyway, I would not buy an eos m1 or m2 no matter how low the price. but not because i consider a big fat mirrorslapper to be better than mirrorless cameras, but rather because the eos m comes without a viewfinder.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

For a change, the Americans don't get to have everything first