Canon EOS R6 Mark III & RF 45 F1.2 STM November 6
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Well, to be fair: it took Sony six years to after Canon released a f2 zoom to come up with one. While Sony released them, Canon released 20/24/35/50/85mm F1.4 VCM which is also a great accomplishment.
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Nah, it's just marketing talk. Surprisingly, this kind of teasers never give a real hint and are hardly related to the product features. Apple actually kind of perfected that."Discover the power, unleash your passion"
Could it mean something really interesting will be announced? Or an RF 50mm f/1,8 III?
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roby17269
R5, H5X + IQ1-80, DJI Mini 4 Pro & Mavic 4 Pro
I agree we need some more "halo" offerings
Disagree: at least I wish the 35 1.2 will sway more towards the "least optical compromises" path. We already have a VCM 35 1.4 which is compact and light and needs digital corrections to achieve those qualities - what would differentiate the current 1.4 from the 1.2 you describe?
I would love a 35 1.2 more in the mold of the current 50 and 85 1.2
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I'd never dare to say that a line of shamelessly optically uncorrected lenses with extreme vignetting is 'a great accomplishment'. I don't even think the VCM line is worth of the red ring. At that price tag the least I expect is the lenses to be optically corrected.
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I agree and I'm totally expecting such kind of fully photo-oriented lenses to keep being released.
Canon has been describing the VCMs as hybrids since the beginning. My interpretation of that is simple: hybrid implies sacrifices on both ends.
The VCM lenses:
- are not the budget options (the silver ring lenses are)
- are not Cine lenses (so they don't go all out on video)
- and they don't go all out on photo either because, for most of them, either Canon or their opponents have made better already
We have:
20mm f/1.4 VCM
24mm f/1.4 VCM
35mm f/1.4 VCM
50mm f/1.4 VCM
85mm f/1.4 VCM
Rumored:
14mm f/2 VCM
Canon, or their opponents, have:
14mm f/1.8 (EDIT: I forgot there’s a 14mm f/1.4)
Many 20mm f/1.4
Many 24mm f/1.4
35mm f/1.2
50mm f/1.2
85mm f/1.2
So, for every single one of the VCM lenses, I expect Canon to release a higher grade photo-oriented option within, say, 5 years from the first VCM release (50 and 85 are already available, obviously).
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Hmmm, funnily afaik, Sonys 28-70mm F2 (among other lenses) relies on digital correction as well. Sony even stated they were only able to built these lenses so lightweight because they relied on dc for vignetting and distortion. So, if you despise Canon for dc, please don't praise Sony lenses for it.
I really don´t mind digitally corrected lenses. In fact, I´d like to see some kind of proof which states optical corrected lenses are in fact better. Furthermore, I love the weight savings DC provides. Yes, I mean the VCM line-up. But one should also compare Canons optical corrected 28-70mm F2 (1.427 kg) and Sonys offering (0,918 kg): a difference of 500gr is huge! I don't how much DC does account for, but given the choice I´d go for a lighter DC anytime.
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Well, so you're my competitor ahahah that's what I do too, buy cheap and resell for profit. My last RF "investment" acquisition is the RF 28 STM for 160€ shipped, which is pretty amazing bargain. I still have it, is so cheap I'll probably keep it anyway even if I don't use it; as I said, a M5 is coming, but if I can find a R100 body only for 200€ or less (very hard), then I'm probably going to keep it, resell the M5, and the 28 STM could became the pocket solution for R100 when I want to be super light and have a standard FoV. I already had R100 and resold it, it's pretty stupid camera, has so few point of controls that I would myself too gladly enable the touch screen for it...but it hasn't!
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I never said it has to be digital corrected. But at 1.2 kg the 85mm should be put on a diet. The difference between Sonys F1.2 and Canons is roughly 170 gr (778 gr to 950) so I really do think there is room for improvement in this regard. Canon really started to design lighter lenses with the arrival of the RF 100-500mm in 2021 (it had something to do with a new front element and new design approach, it was in one of the articles here on CR) and both lenses were released before that time. My theory actually fits with the rumored roadmap from 2021 which featured the 35mm f1.2, the fact it has obviously been pushed back several times and now the 24-70mm F2.8 IS VCM rumor which kind of gives a small hint what to expect of mkii´s.
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I only expect a 35mm F1.2, I don´t believe there are many use cases for 20mm/ 24mm F1.2 to really create a demand Canon wants to cater to.
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That's a very good price, mine cost about 240€ (brand new), but I'm not buying internationally, only at national stores. All the gear is new, open box or returned, with standard warranty.
I'm not purchasing items as used unless the price is insane and I can return them if something's wrong (which has happened in the past).
Today I just sold a Sony ZV-E10 II, that I bought a few weeks ago for about 550€. Open box, pristine condition, all the plastic bags, unopened neck strap. It was probably opened to show to someone, as it didn't have a single fingerprint, dust speck, nothing.
My RP was one of those findings, it's my first camera I was not the first to unbox. 569€ with the RF 50mm f/1.8, the bundle that also comes with an extra battery and SD card. It was missing the SD card, everything else was fine. I sold the 50mm, and kept the camera and the extra battery for a little over 400€, with three years warranty as usual. If I can, I intend to keep it as my personal camera, I kind of like its slow pace.
I think I got two of those for about 215€ (265 or 270€ with kit lens). It's been three months or so since the last time I snatched a R100.
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Sony relies on in body correction to fix color rendering which in my book is a much bigger no-no. Check images of many of the recent gms on E to Z or with contacts taped, very yellowy color. I'm not a big fan of many VCM lenses for their oof rendition but at least for 50 and 85 they are optically corrected pretty well.
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It's tough to create halo lenses again. Canon have done this so many times in the past, EF 50mm f1.0 and EF 85mm f1.2 are prime (soz for the pun) examples. Even Canon are shy of matching the 50mm f1.0 in a modern context. However they were the first to make a 35mm f1.4 and a 24mm f1,4 and these days all of the competition brands have similar lenses. Even independant brands like Sigma have a 85mm f1.2 these days. Canon where the first to make a 28-70mm f2.8 and then were the first to push it to 24-70/2.8. Now it's a standard that everybody is used too. Canon made the first 70-200.2.8. There were all halo lenses of yesteryear. The 28-70/f2.0 is aleap forwards but Canon haven't bothered with a sequal....a 70-135mm f2 has been long overdue. Where is out 180mm Macro replacement or 8-15mm fisheye (an astonishing little lens).
Other brands have lenses like the 35-150mm f2-2.8 from Tamron is a legend and for many a true one lens pro portrait solution. canon had their 200mm f1.8, replaced it with the f2 version and then dropped it....Sony, Nikkon and even Sigma now have one.
What of the other big whites? Even Sigma have made a 300-600mm f4. We are still wondering why Canon seem to be dragging their heels with their halo lens developement. Why didn't Canon do drop in TC's across all their white telephoto lens range? It's baffling. I love my 400mm f2.8 II L, but the amount of time I spend swapping TC's on that lens!
So yes there are less opportunities to create halo lenses, but Canon don't seem to be that interested in making them.
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With these specs I don't really see the point of a side grade from a R6ii. I've needed a 2nd camera since I moved my R8 on and I've been waiting on the R6iii. However, considering I can buy a R6ii for so little £££ and R6iii offers very little in the way of upgrades for a Lot more £££. I can currently buy a new R6ii via grey import for £1350. A new R6iii is going to come in around £2K, maybe more.
So instead I've just bought a S/H R5 with only 50 clicks...yes it's practically brand new for only £1650. So yes, the R6iii is going to be a tough sell for Canon until the price drops to realistic prices and is seen a cheaper alternative to a mint R5. Maybe the R7ii will offer more tech for the money?
So instead I've just bought a S/H R5 with only 50 clicks...yes it's practically brand new for only £1650. So yes, the R6iii is going to be a tough sell for Canon until the price drops to realistic prices and is seen a cheaper alternative to a mint R5. Maybe the R7ii will offer more tech for the money?
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