Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Coming in August? [CR1]

[Wizardly]

The M3 already accepts the Optional Electronic Viewfinder EVF-DC1 that was introduced with the G1X II.

True enough but not attached, occupying the hot shoe, and rather ridiculously expensive. I think a built-in EVF is worthy of an upper tier EOS M body.

 

[editreject]

he..he...Nikon fanboys has always been so envious of this little and very capable camera, and now a new model is coming..they are starting to s*** themselves.. ;D

<--uses Nikon...not s***ing myself

 

[beforeEos Camaras]

love the sl1 and if the sl2 is even better well it will be a upgrade for my wife. the size and the pancake lens are freedom for my wife. she's mobility impaired and has only the use of her right arm. so primes no zooms yes no L glass but great photos. the last camera she used was a T-50 with a 50 1.8 prime until the winder broke tried the t-80 but the af was too slow pre eos so fine adjustment is a feature that I can live with out. the focus is fast 2.8 is fast enough but her photos are wonderful and more impotently it gives her something a Pont and shoot or a super zoom cannot deliver iq

 

[sdsr]

Personally, I'd rather get a Sony A6000. Much better bang for the buck than the SL1 or 2 in my opinion.

I'd much rather use an SL1 than a Sony A6000. Better ergonomics, system options, etc. Much cheaper too.

I own both and like both, though right now my bias towards old MF lenses tips me towards the Sony. (One problem for the a6000 right now, of course, is the fact that right now you can buy an a7 for c. $900; and a 24MP mirrorless FF camera seems more appealing to me than a 24MP APS-C mirrorless camera....)

 

[drmikeinpdx]

These little cameras are cute and pack a lot of function in a small package. I can almost see myself buying one.

Unfortunately, most of the lenses are still quite large. So until Canon finds a way to miniaturize more lenses for the crop-sensor cameras, I don't see a lot of point in buying one of these tiny gems. I guess you could stick to the two pancake lenses, but would be too limiting for me.

I will stick with my Rebel bodies for most travel photography and my S-class Powershot cameras for pocket carry.

 

[mb66energy]

The EOS M is really compact if paired with the 2.0 22 but really awkward to use just
for medium slow "action".
With the EF 2.8 40 and the EF-S 2.8 60 via adapter it gives me the better focal lengths but is far from
compact. Using EF lenses via adaptor eats up the compactness of the EOS M ...

An SL2 is a very valid option and might add to a "shooting ready moderately poor man's trinity":
24mm: EF 2.8 24 classic + 5D classic
64mm: EF 2.8 40 + SL2
100mm: EF 2.8 100 Macro classic + 5D classic

Very interesting! I also have 5D I with a bunch of primes (14, 24, 35, 50 and 100 mm) and have considered to buy EOS M as an all-around tool because of light weight and small size. But now I see SL1 would be also a nice option. What is your experience with EOS M? As I understand from your comment about speed, it is rather not very responsive camera. Aside from this there is only screen for composing and I really like the OVF. Would you consider SL1/SL2 to be a better option?

EOS M has great IQ, especially with the EF-M 2.0 22 ...

and the EF 2.8 40 + EF-S 2.8 60 mm and there the size advantage of EOS M vanishes compared to the SL-1.
One has to compare the size of the naked SL-1 with the EOS M + EF-M2EF adaptor.

SL 1: 117 x 91 x 69 mm WIDTH x HEIGHT x DEPTH
SL 1: 117 x 91 x 125 mm with EF-S 60

EOS M: 109 x 66 x 127 mm with adaptor + EF-S 60
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 57 mm with adaptor
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 32 mm

With the EF-S 60 mounted there is no real advantage in terms of size - except some millimeters in width and height. Add the advantages of an SL-1 or it's next incarnation:
- OVF (including checking the scene with USM lenses without any power consumption)
- built in flash
- 380 vs 230 shots per battery charge

You can add an EVF to the EOS M3 or a flash to the EOS M but than the HEIGHT of the camera might exceed the height of the SL-1.
The only advantage I see in an EOS M3 with EVF is to have a good viewfinder option for VIDEO. But
I decided for me that I have to go a long way to be a good photographer, but I am to old to be a good
videographer ...

So my answer to your question:
I would prefer the SL-1 and ... if the SL-2 has a fully equipped Wifi remote control with live view I would even prefer it much more!

Best - Michael

 

[Mr_Canuck]

Canon should hope to catch up to Pentax with a small capable body. But they never will because they'll never put a pentaprism finder in a low end camera like Pentax does. Viewfinders are so undervalued. The new collapsable kit lens from Pentax is interesting too. Canon?

 

[michi]

I love my SL1. After seeing how little support the EOS M had in the U.S. I tried the SL1 and was pleasantly surprised. I got rid of my 7D and a bunch of EF-S lenses but kept my favorite ones for the SL1. My favorite combo is the SL1 with the 15-85. It's not that small but way smaller and lighter than the 5DII with L lenses.

If the SL2 has Wifi and/or NFC, I would get it just for that reason. I have the T-Mobile plan which works pretty much world wide. With NFC or Wifi I could easily upload or back up pictures anywhere. If the image quality or especially low ISO improved noticeably, I'm sold.

 

[stromgewehr]

My wife and I travel pretty extensively both in the US and abroad.

We have both a 70D and SL1 along with a decent selection of lenses. We find that although the 70D has been a great performing camera, much of the time when we travel we end up just taking the SL1 and leaving the 70D behind. It is really an amazing little camera. The thing that I think has been most valuable about it is that for climbing and motorcycling trips, having the SL1 eliminates the temptation to take a point and shoot. For the vast majority of our needs the 24mm STM and the nifty 50 do a great job. As of last night we have upgraded (yes don't be fooled, it is definitely an upgrade) to the new 50 STM instead!!!

 

[LonelyBoy]

EOS M has great IQ, especially with the EF-M 2.0 22 ...

and the EF 2.8 40 + EF-S 2.8 60 mm and there the size advantage of EOS M vanishes compared to the SL-1.
One has to compare the size of the naked SL-1 with the EOS M + EF-M2EF adaptor.

I've always felt the M only makes sense with the 22/2 welded on, which gives it a real size advantage. As soon as you attach the one of the zooms (which also don't work on your other cameras) or the EF adapter the size advantage over the SL1 vanishes, and you're still left without a viewfinder and with slow autofocus. The SL1 with the pancakes, 10-18, 18-(55/135), and 55-250 is affordable, versatile, and you can bring whichever lenses make sense for the trip in a small package. If the SL2 dodges the AF gremlins of the 70D/ 7D2 I'll be very interested (so I'm watching the T6 siblings closely).

 

[exquisitor]

The EOS M is really compact if paired with the 2.0 22 but really awkward to use just
for medium slow "action".
With the EF 2.8 40 and the EF-S 2.8 60 via adapter it gives me the better focal lengths but is far from
compact. Using EF lenses via adaptor eats up the compactness of the EOS M ...

An SL2 is a very valid option and might add to a "shooting ready moderately poor man's trinity":
24mm: EF 2.8 24 classic + 5D classic
64mm: EF 2.8 40 + SL2
100mm: EF 2.8 100 Macro classic + 5D classic

Very interesting! I also have 5D I with a bunch of primes (14, 24, 35, 50 and 100 mm) and have considered to buy EOS M as an all-around tool because of light weight and small size. But now I see SL1 would be also a nice option. What is your experience with EOS M? As I understand from your comment about speed, it is rather not very responsive camera. Aside from this there is only screen for composing and I really like the OVF. Would you consider SL1/SL2 to be a better option?

EOS M has great IQ, especially with the EF-M 2.0 22 ...

and the EF 2.8 40 + EF-S 2.8 60 mm and there the size advantage of EOS M vanishes compared to the SL-1.
One has to compare the size of the naked SL-1 with the EOS M + EF-M2EF adaptor.

SL 1: 117 x 91 x 69 mm WIDTH x HEIGHT x DEPTH
SL 1: 117 x 91 x 125 mm with EF-S 60

EOS M: 109 x 66 x 127 mm with adaptor + EF-S 60
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 57 mm with adaptor
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 32 mm

With the EF-S 60 mounted there is no real advantage in terms of size - except some millimeters in width and height. Add the advantages of an SL-1 or it's next incarnation:
- OVF (including checking the scene with USM lenses without any power consumption)
- built in flash
- 380 vs 230 shots per battery charge

You can add an EVF to the EOS M3 or a flash to the EOS M but than the HEIGHT of the camera might exceed the height of the SL-1.
The only advantage I see in an EOS M3 with EVF is to have a good viewfinder option for VIDEO. But
I decided for me that I have to go a long way to be a good photographer, but I am to old to be a good
videographer ...

So my answer to your question:
I would prefer the SL-1 and ... if the SL-2 has a fully equipped Wifi remote control with live view I would even prefer it much more!

Best - Michael

Thank you, Michael! SL1/2 looks really attractive.
It is very sad that there is only one prime in the EF-M line. I hope Canon will change this and bring more lenses in the system. EOS M3 looks really interesting, but if I would attach my 50/1.4 to the camera via adapter, the length would be nearly the same as 5D+50/1.4 or SL1+50/1.4. The weight would be even larger than with SL1 with 770 g vs 700 g (5D+50/1.4 is 1200 g).