Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Specs [CR2.5]

[dlleno]

just itching to know what 18mp sensor the Rebel will see. I suspect, as disapointing as it would be, that it wil be the same 3 yr old sensor with Digic 5 -- which would be an improvement to be sure, but not a game changer. it would be a quick turnaround for Canon it would seem to me. but I hope Canon Delights us with a new 18mp sensor that also finds its way to the 7D - -and that ISO/DR improvements come from more than just software

 

[drjlo]

If it's the same tired 18 MP sensor, :-[ :-[ on Canon.
Perhaps Canon should seriously think about buying their sensors from Sony like Nikon does.

 

[dlleno]

from Sony I'm sure you mean

 

[briansquibb]

With continuous AF I might get one for some 600mm movies ;D ;D ;D

 

[Manet]

So, does this mean that the 650d might have faster auto focus in "live view" mode? My girlfriend prefer using live view over the "view finder", but complains about really slow auto focus (550D) at times.. Also, will different lenses (canon vs. 3rd party for instance) have an impact on the auto focus speed as well?

I'm new to SLRs, so don't "shoot" me if/when I say something stupid..

 

[sleepnever]

Hmm.. would be upgrading from a T2i and it looks like they're focusing more on video which I care little about. I was hoping for a few more AF points, flip out screen like the T3i, a Digic5 and misc improvements. I realize this is a rumor, but its looking more like I'll have to jump to a 60D/7D or wait for those to refresh later this year.

 

[nikkito]

T4i will come with touchscreen and Angry Birds installed [CR2.5]

 

[roger1]

If the t4i is announced in June, how long will it take for the body to become available in stores in the US?

I'd doubt you would have one in your hands by June 11th, unless they announced it June 1st or sooner. With the rebel line, they are usually available within the month of its announcement (unlike say, the 1DX), but, Canon's production may be slow enough that that is not true this time. They might also have held off the announcement until they had enough stock to meet initial demand.

How about by July 9th? What would be your take on that? I'm going to Hawaii on the 10th. I wouldn't mind upgrading since I still have the original 300D Rebel.

 

[Marine03]

I'm sorry but I've never seen an explanation of the benefit of Cross Type AF points could someone quickly explain?

 

[wickidwombat]

<li>18mp (no word on whether or not its a new or modified 18mp sensor)</li>
<li>9 AF Points, all cross-type</li>
<li>Touchscreen LCD</li>
<li>Continuous AF in LiveView & Video Recording</li>

price of the 60D is going to go through the floor
I wonder what price these are going to come out at?
$900?

 

[daniemare]

This is exactly what I was hoping Canon would do.

I want them to keep the same the mp count at 18 whether it be the old sensor or the new one I don't really care. Pair that 18mp sensor with a Digic 5 to show off how much better the Digic 5 is compared to the 4.

I also wanted them to put the XXD AF system into the rebel bodies. If these rumors are true then they are going that route.

Hopefully that would also mean that they are restoring the XXD line back to its rightful place as a semi-pro body rather than a rebel on steroids. Put the 7D's AF system into the 70D. Basically merge the 7D and the 70D together into one body.


As for the 7D2, I'd rather they do away with that lineup entirely. Or make the 7D the new aps-H series to keep all the bird watchers and sports shooters who need that extra reach that the 1DX does not offer. A croppeed 1DX if you will. And put it at a price point that separates it enough from the 70D so buyers won't be kicking themselves if they buy one and not the other.

I say keep the 7D Mark II as your mini 1DX and make the 70D the FF Rebel. Now there is giving meaning back to the XXD line

 

[Woody]

The 64 million dollar question is: any improvement in low ISO dynamic range?

In terms of specs alone the T4i/650D beat the D5100/D3200. But if there is no improvement in low ISO dynamic range, it's still a disappointment.

 

[tntwit]

so out with the swivel LCD and in with the touch screen? replacing one gimmick by another

Somebody better tell Apple that their iPad is one big touch screen gimmick. You may not have noticed, but the world is going touch screen, including Windows 8. My Sony camcorder from 2004 has a swivel LCD with a touch screen. This is not new technology and it is far more intuitive than trying to navigate around with buttons which is like using your keyboard when your mouse dies on your computer.

As far as the swivel being a gimmick, I use a T3i at work to photograph industrial equipment and I use one for personal use. I find the gimmick rather useful, enough so that I specifically chose the T3i over the T2i for that reason. You may not use it all the time, but when you are taking photos high or low or if the tripod is backed into a corner where you can't get behind the camera, the swivel is very useful. Adding the touch screen will add to this because when the camera is in a position that makes the swivel convenient, it means the back of the camera is at an odd angle that is hard to operate where the screen would be facing the operator.

 

[idimoe]

In terms of specs alone the T4i/650D beat the D5100/D3200.

Really? It seems like more of a wash for me between the D3200 and the t4i. Both camera have continuous AF, nikon has a bigger sensor (which isn't always a good thing) and 2 more AF points (big whoop + not sure if they are all cross type like t4i).

But the D3200 is meant to compete with the t3 not the t3i/t4i. Shrug, all pretty similar IMO.

 

[EOBeav]

I don't think Canon encourages users to move from a xxxD to another xxxD. They'd like you to move up to the xxD and xD's.

BOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIINNNNNG.

im not very tempted to update my second body, a 550D, to this.
i would like to have a new crop body.. but i guess it´s the old sensor and i don´t need video enhancements.

 

[c.d.embrey]

Sony is keeping a 16 mp sensor in their new Nex-F3 and A37. Perhaps both have determined that the marketing benefit of ever-higher megapixels has reached the point of diminishing returns.

Both are bottom of the line cameras. So I wouldn't read too much into it. We'll have to wait to see what happens with the 24Mp NEX 7 and a77. Sony isn't Canikon, they seem to march to the beat of a different drum.

 

[nazdar]

This continuous AF can be very Sh*ty and slow. ... But better than nothing.

 

[c.d.embrey]

If Canon had solved those issues in some brilliant or ingenious way, they'd have put it in the 5dIII. That they are just leaving it to the T4i tells me all I need to know....it would have made pros angry since its not very good.

Check-out the video test of a Sony FS 700 https://vimeo.com/40369782 the follow focus works very well. The test was done by Andrew Young, his work has received an Academy Award nomination, multiple Emmy Awards and the Grand Jury Prize at the Sundance Film Festival.

Don't confuse the Nikon D5100 auto-focus, with a Sony auto-focus. My NEX 5n, using face detection, does a good job of keeping a person in focus as they walk around a room, even at f/2.8. If Sony can do this, why not Canon ???

 

[aznable]

I'm sorry but I've never seen an explanation of the benefit of Cross Type AF points could someone quickly explain?

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Photography-Tips/Canon-EOS-DSLR-Autofocus-Explained.aspx

A cross-type sensor is a horizontal line sensor and a vertical line sensor at the same AF point, meaning that point is able to detect lines in both orientations - that makes it more likely that the AF point will be sampling a feature that has the correct orientation to activate the sensor.

 

[briansquibb]

so out with the swivel LCD and in with the touch screen? replacing one gimmick by another

Somebody better tell Apple that their iPad is one big touch screen gimmick. You may not have noticed, but the world is going touch screen, including Windows 8. My Sony camcorder from 2004 has a swivel LCD with a touch screen. This is not new technology and it is far more intuitive than trying to navigate around with buttons which is like using your keyboard when your mouse dies on your computer.

As far as the swivel being a gimmick, I use a T3i at work to photograph industrial equipment and I use one for personal use. I find the gimmick rather useful, enough so that I specifically chose the T3i over the T2i for that reason. You may not use it all the time, but when you are taking photos high or low or if the tripod is backed into a corner where you can't get behind the camera, the swivel is very useful. Adding the touch screen will add to this because when the camera is in a position that makes the swivel convenient, it means the back of the camera is at an odd angle that is hard to operate where the screen would be facing the operator.

Touch screens are fine - except for those with big fingers and poor sighted. My father takes pictures with his P&S happily as he is longsighted (it has optical viewfinder) , but has memorized the position and meaning of the buttons.