Canon has discontinued the Canon EOS M6 Mark II

[neuroanatomist]

On the other hand, Canon might simply start reducing DSLR prices to spike sales.

Could be. Might depend on how significantly DSLR production has been affected by current component supply constraints.

 

[Czardoom]

It's not listed as discontinued by Canon Japan yet.
Maybe only in certain markets?

Or maybe it's just a rumor. And that's all it will be until Canon says it is discontinued.

Rumor sites jut love to discontinue items. Some of them - miraculously - turn out to not be discontinued after all.

 

[Czardoom]

...and even the news of the discontinued M6 II.

It's not news, it's a rumor. And even if they stop making new ones, you can buy one and it will last for years. If you are interested in small and light, and the system has the lenses you want, then it doesn't matter if they stop making new M6 II's.

While everyone is pronouncing the system dead, I would say that the M6, with it's higher MP sensor and better AF system, was an outlier anyway. If Canon says the M50 is discontinued, then that's another story.

 

[Czardoom]

Of course the sad thing is, we know that other internet sites just repeat what is published on CR. It wouldn't surprise me if other photo sites are already reporting that the M6 II has been discontinued - even though CR doesn't know if this is actually fact or not.

And that, my friends, IS TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE. The headline could just as easily have read...

TWO COUNTRIES REPORT THE M6 II AS DISCONTINUED. Reads a little differently, doesn't it.

Shame on CR for trying to kill the M system, which it has been trying to do for years with this - as of yet - un-factual heaadline. I guess ethics don't matter to some.

 

[lustyd]

Glad I just bought mine if this is true. As a long term Canon user I had decided to buy the Sony ZX-E10 due to its size and the fact that it can do video very well (longer than 30 minutes for instance...Canon that's a hint!). Sony stopped making them and I tried a ZV1 which was good but slow compared to my 90D or other canons, which makes it frustrating to use. I ended up buying the M6ii since it's basically a 90D in a more convenient form factor and it's perfect (albeit still 30 minute limits for no reason).
I get frustrated at the full frame brigade who always completely ignore form factor. I definitely won't have a full frame sized kit on me to capture stuff so I'll never invest in a system like that. The 90D and EF/EF-S lenses are simply too large to be convenient. If they switch to R series then they'd need to release a complete new range of ultra compact lenses to get my business, and I don't mean EF-S equivalent I mean EF-M equivalent. What would be the point? Given the existance of EF converters I really don't see what else is needed on M so don't buy the lack of development stuff either. If I want a specific lens I can get one, just not in a small M format. The most popular options are all there and always have been.
Most of the issues with M series are lazy journalism where advantages are discussed as if they were flaws. I've yet to see an M review that acknowledged the purpose of M, they instead like to compare to 1Dx and highlight every apparent shortcoming a pro photographer might miss.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Of course the sad thing is, we know that other internet sites just repeat what is published on CR. It wouldn't surprise me if other photo sites are already reporting that the M6 II has been discontinued - even though CR doesn't know if this is actually fact or not.

And that, my friends, IS TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE. The headline could just as easily have read...

TWO COUNTRIES REPORT THE M6 II AS DISCONTINUED. Reads a little differently, doesn't it.

Shame on CR for trying to kill the M system, which it has been trying to do for years with this - as of yet - un-factual heaadline. I guess ethics don't matter to some.

Indeed.

And which two countries? If the information is bona fide, that information is certainly relevant. For example, if Canon is no longer selling the M6 II in Russia and Belarus, that reads even more differently.

 

[scyrene]

I believe it's about time Canon inform us about the M's future.
Presently, I wouldn't dare to invest in this system, there are just too many contradictory news about it. On the one hand, sales are high, on the other hand no novelties and even the news of the discontinued M6 II. I too was waiting for an M 5II...
Sorry Canon, but customers like to know what's going on. Nobody asks Canon to divulge some classified info.
But we'd like to know whether it makes sense to spend our hard-earned money on a system that could be obsolete soon.

With respect, you're not "investing" in a system, you're buying a camera and one or more lenses. It does its job and isn't obsolete the moment it's discontinued. If a given body or system suits your needs, and you can afford it, get it. You're overcomplicating it.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Presently, I wouldn't dare to invest in this system, there are just too many contradictory news about it.
Sorry Canon, but customers like to know what's going on.

Yes, and you are a frequent participant in a forum discussing rumors about the newest camera gear.

I suspect most buyers of M-series cameras just walk into a store or search on Amazon and buy the camera. They don’t spend hours or days researching the brand, the line, or rumors about its potential demise or growth. It’s clear from Canon’s milestones that most buyers never buy a lens other than the 1-2 that came in the box with their camera.

 

[Bob Howland]

With respect, you're not "investing" in a system, you're buying a camera and one or more lenses. It does its job and isn't obsolete the moment it's discontinued. If a given body or system suits your needs, and you can afford it, get it. You're overcomplicating it.

Maybe or maybe not! Not everybody buys a body and 2 lenses, then calls it quits. I bought my first EOS camera in 1997, 25 years ago, then bought an f/2.8 trinity over the next two years, then a 100 macro and a 100-400. That's five lenses, including 4 L's, purchased over a 4 year period. Plus four TS-E lenses, five high speed primes, a 300 /2.8, a Sigma 150-600 and 4 more film and DSLR bodies. That's "investing". The difference is that I view Canon etc as a mortal enemy and don't expect them to tell me their future plans.

 

[josephandrews222]

...the abbreviation 'JDM' has relevance that pertains to my most recent watch purchase--Japan Domestic Market (only).

I love the watch--solar powered, radio controlled, titanium, sapphire, analog-digital, compass, barometer etc.

The exact watch I purchased (via eBay) is not available in North America.

I will not hesitate to purchase EOS Ms etc. the same way.

In fact, I already have!

And remember, Canon USA opted out of the M2 all those years ago--I bought that body via eBay...from Japan.

And the EF-M 11-22 IS lenses in our family? Two were purchased from Canada...during the period of time that Canon USA pretended that it didn't exist.

=====

I remain flabbergasted that Canon would even consider ceding the entire (interchangeable lens) cropped sensor market to their competition.

It does not make sense.

 

[scyrene]

Maybe or maybe not! Not everybody buys a body and 2 lenses, then calls it quits. I bought my first EOS camera in 1997, 25 years ago, then bought an f/2.8 trinity over the next two years, then a 100 macro and a 100-400. That's five lenses, including 4 L's, purchased over a 4 year period. Plus four TS-E lenses, five high speed primes, a 300 /2.8, a Sigma 150-600 and 4 more film and DSLR bodies. That's "investing". The difference is that I view Canon etc as a mortal enemy and don't expect them to tell me their future plans.

Lol. But once again, you're not really investing. You're buying something that will lose value over time, because it does what you want. We can use the word as a simple synonym for 'purchase' but I think the waters become muddied when people imply that the future trajectory of a brand or line affects that purchase. It's not like buying shares in a company and hoping their forecasts or performance increase the value of those shares.

 

[lustyd]

Yes, and you are a frequent participant in a forum discussing rumors about the newest camera gear.

I suspect most buyers of M-series cameras just walk into a store or search on Amazon and buy the camera. They don’t spend hours or days researching the brand, the line, or rumors about its potential demise or growth. It’s clear from Canon’s milestones that most buyers never buy a lens other than the 1-2 that came in the box with their camera.

Probably most, yes I think you're right. I searched for months though for cameras without a viewfinder either adding bulk or in a very weird position, with lenses that were portable yet wide enough for vlogging and landscape, external mic input, vertical screen (fully articulating causes creepy eye movements on video). In fact, the only consideration I ignored was price. For some reason the whole industry things smaller should mean cheaper.
Every single one of my requirements is seen as bad by the press yet it doesn't take more than 5 minutes research to see I'm far from alone. It may not be extravagant, but I bought a 90D and everything about it is a bit bad for what I wanted so I had to upgrade to an M6ii which was cheaper for no reason at all that I could see. I have a range of EF and EF-S lenses as well as now a range of portable M lenses. Perhaps I'm not the target demographic, but I'm a demographic that's being pushed out of the Canon ecosystem by people who wish every camera had a massive integrated grip and used foot long lenses. For the record I also don't see why integrated grips would add thousands to the camera cost!

 

[entoman]

I am just like many others who “watching” M6II since its announced but hardly make purchase decision due to uncertainty future of the Canon M series.
Really tempting for M series smaller lenses, if Canon gonna build a small R body (smaller than RP) with few small zoom and prime pancake lens, I believe many M “watchers” will jump into it.
Come on Canon, you could make a small RF 50mm f1.8, EF 40mm f2.8 pancake ane EF-S 24mm f2.8, I know you could did the same or better for RF mount.
I had the M5 in the past, sold it to my good friend, and I own the RP, RP isn’t too much larger than M5, I expect a RF mount APSC body could be smaller or at least maintain the same size just like the M series body.

I wouldn't delay a purchase decision on the basis that a product could be discontinued. If you really like a camera, just go out and buy it. And if affordable, get a couple of extra lenses at the same time. The camera will still work perfectly in 10 years time, and there will vast numbers of mint condition secondhand lenses available for many years to come - especially if other folk sell off their M lenses.

IMO, the only valid reason for NOT buying, is if you feel there are features missing in the M6ii that you genuinely need, that might find their way into an RF replacement (e.g. IBIS, fully articulated screen, AI tech).

 

[entoman]

Not everybody buys a body and 2 lenses, then calls it quits. I bought my first EOS camera in 1997, 25 years ago, then bought an f/2.8 trinity over the next two years, then a 100 macro and a 100-400. That's five lenses, including 4 L's, purchased over a 4 year period. Plus four TS-E lenses, five high speed primes, a 300 /2.8, a Sigma 150-600 and 4 more film and DSLR bodies.

I'd guess that 90% or more of M buyers just buy the camera with the kit lens, or maybe a 2 or 3 lenses plus body - much the same as typical buyers of Rebels. Most buyers will either be novices attracted by a nicely designed camera body, or people who already own a decent DSLR or RF outfit, but fancy a same-brand compact model that they can use in situations where a larger camera is inappropriate. I don't think there will be many M owners who have, or want, a large collection of specialised lenses.

High-end DSLR and RF users are a different breed and have chosen those cameras because of their amazing versatility, so they'll be far more likely to "invest" in a couple of bodies and half a dozen lenses, IMO.

There are of course exceptions - people who will want a very capable camera and a full set of lenses, but also need or want the system to be small and light. But they'll be buying Olympus, not M.

 

[Bob Howland]

Lol. But once again, you're not really investing. You're buying something that will lose value over time, because it does what you want. We can use the word as a simple synonym for 'purchase' but I think the waters become muddied when people imply that the future trajectory of a brand or line affects that purchase. It's not like buying shares in a company and hoping their forecasts or performance increase the value of those shares.

But doing what I've done requires stability and long term commitment from the manufacturer. That's what we're not seeing from Canon WRT the M system. Also I forgot to mention that in the last two years, I replaced my 20 year old trinity with a new F/4 trinity and my 100 macro with the latest and greatest. I'm getting old and want to lighten my load.

 

[Del Paso]

Yes, and you are a frequent participant in a forum discussing rumors about the newest camera gear.

I suspect most buyers of M-series cameras just walk into a store or search on Amazon and buy the camera. They don’t spend hours or days researching the brand, the line, or rumors about its potential demise or growth. It’s clear from Canon’s milestones that most buyers never buy a lens other than the 1-2 that came in the box with their camera.

You got a point here.
Maybe I'm just a bit frustrated because I've been hoping for a high IQ M with an integrated EVF, and nothing seems to come.
I'm sometimes fed up with carrying 14 Kg on my back ...so, a cute little M with 3-5 lenses would have made me happy.

 

[imez007]

EOS M series is small, light weight and with an APSC size sensor. I used to have the original M and now M200 for travel. BTW, I have a few RF lenses on an R for pro use, but not for travel. If there is a new APSC R series with a large body, heavy weight but with a small sensor, I do not get the idea.

 

[adrian_bacon]

As I already stated I only see two APS-C options for Canon:
1. APS-C in R-system.
2. No APS-C anymore.
Hope for 1.

As much as I've been an APS-C shooter in the past, since transitioning to full frame, I can't realistically say I'd ever willingly go back to APS-C. The EOS RP is inexpensive enough and small enough that anybody who is looking to upgrade from a basic point and shoot or cameraphone would be hard pressed not to at least consider it. Coupled with the RF 50 1.8 and/or the 24-105 f/4-7.1 it's not quite as small as an M body, but it's not far off.

I'm sure Canon meant for the RP to be that natural upgrade path because the RP uses the same battery type as M cameras, so I'm not surprised in the least if it turns out that Canon is ceding APS-C to the likes of Fuji, etc and focusing on just full frame. There's no real reason why they wouldn't be able to make an even smaller version of the RP with a FF sensor in it if it's going to have an RF mount. The physical mount alone is going to limit how small they can make the body, and looking at my RP, it can't really get that much smaller than it already is without running into the lens mount.

 

[adrian_bacon]

I am just like many others who “watching” M6II since its announced but hardly make purchase decision due to uncertainty future of the Canon M series.
Really tempting for M series smaller lenses, if Canon gonna build a small R body (smaller than RP) with few small zoom and prime pancake lens, I believe many M “watchers” will jump into it.
Come on Canon, you could make a small RF 50mm f1.8, EF 40mm f2.8 pancake ane EF-S 24mm f2.8, I know you could did the same or better for RF mount.
I had the M5 in the past, sold it to my good friend, and I own the RP, RP isn’t too much larger than M5, I expect a RF mount APSC body could be smaller or at least maintain the same size just like the M series body.

I have both the M5 and an RP. Sitting them side by side, the m5 is actually taller than the RP. The RP is a little wider, and deeper, but not by much, and even more interestingly, the RP with the RF 50 STM lens weighs a whopping 5 ounces more than the M5 with the 21 STM lens. The RP is already very close to flagship M size and could pretty easily get a slight shave here and there to get it even more svelte.

 

[David - Sydney]

The M6II is still being sold on the Canon Japan store.

お探しのページが見つかりません：

｜キヤノンマーケティングジャパンが運営する公式通販サイトです。税込5,500円以上のご購入で送料無料。お買い物でポイントも貯まってお得。デジタルカメラ・交換レンズ・プリンター・各種アクセサリー・消耗品・パーツ等を取り扱っています。

store.canon.jp

Individual geographies set their prices (based on HQ guidance) and product mix. If ‘reports from two different countries’ doesn’t include Canon's home country, then it's not really discontinued by Canon. It just means that local Canon management in a couple of countries have decided to stop selling it. Which countries? CRguy doesn't say. Maybe Tuvalu and Liechtenstein.

Regardless, it doesn't mean the EOS M6 II has been discontinued by Canon. Or if you believe that two countries deciding to stop selling the M6 II means that it is discontinued, then you must also believe that because the M2 was not sold in USA or Canada, the M2 was never made by Canon.

I concur. A rumour is just that. Generally when Canon discontinues an item in the market, it is backed up by website information for a particular geography with Canon Japan's website being the ultimate source and nothing has been provided by CR Guy

An alternative hypothesis is if Canon has internally decided to discontinue the M6ii (ie nothing on Canon country XX website) then it could mean a M6iii is going to be released soon