Pretty certain it will just be the internal chassis, similar to RP and R6. DPR also stated that these cameras were mag alloy body, which they are not in terms of what most of us understand the ‘body’ to be.R7 is magnesium too apparently
Pretty certain it will just be the internal chassis, similar to RP and R6. DPR also stated that these cameras were mag alloy body, which they are not in terms of what most of us understand the ‘body’ to be.R7 is magnesium too apparently
I’d like to take one apart to find out. Must be a tear down of an RP on YouTube somewhere. If the chassis is alloy and the outer shell is polycarbonate then that’s still plenty strong. These plastics are almost just as tough.Pretty certain it will just be the internal chassis, similar to RP and R6. DPR also stated that these cameras were mag alloy body, which they are not in terms of what most of us understand the ‘body’ to be.
There are a few sites on the web that show both the RP and the R6 stripped down, and it seems to be an identical construction, and those that own both say they feel the same. I was quite pleased to be reassured about attaching relatively large and heavy lenses to the RP because clearly the R6 is designed to use and handle those weights judging by its spec sheet.I’d like to take one apart to find out. Must be a tear down of an RP on YouTube somewhere. If the chassis is alloy and the outer shell is polycarbonate then that’s still plenty strong. These plastics are almost just as tough.
R7 vs 7Dii
32mp new sensor VS 20.4mp 2014 sensor
15fps (possible 30fps) Vs 10fps
IBIS VS DIY try not to shake
State of the art R3 based AF system VS 65 AF points no tracking
Flip screen VS fixed screen
EVF VS Optical viewfinder
Very acceptable weather sealing VS supposedly built like a tank
DigicX vs Dual Digic6
51 raw files single burst VS 31
Release price at launch USD1,500 vs USD1,800
So yes, the 7Dii fans are absolutely correct, the R7 is a very underwhelming piece of crap
I mean I think the analogy is a bit weak tbh. I wasn't the one who was making sweeping claims about grips either way, incidentally. But I don't think they're quite akin to either shoes or eyeglasses.
Weather sealing is like the lottery – some people use Rebels in the rain (I’ve seen that) with no problems, others report water damage to 1-series bodies in similar conditions.
At issue is not your personal experience/luck, but rather the type and extent of sealing Canon uses on the camera. As one example, recent 1-series bodies and the R3 have O-rings under buttons, bodies with second-tier sealing (7DII, 5DIV, R5) have foam.
The point is that Canon stated the 7-series DSLRs had weather sealing equivalent to that on older 1-series DSLRs, e.g. the 1DIIN. The R7 has third-tier sealing similar to later xxD DSLRs, which is not as robust as the 7-series DSLRs.
It’s another way in which the R7 is not a mirrorless 7DIII.
Remember Richard Feynman and O-ringsWeather sealing is like the lottery – some people use Rebels in the rain (I’ve seen that) with no problems, others report water damage to 1-series bodies in similar conditions.
At issue is not your personal experience/luck, but rather the type and extent of sealing Canon uses on the camera. As one example, recent 1-series bodies and the R3 have O-rings under buttons, bodies with second-tier sealing (7DII, 5DIV, R5) have foam.
The point is that Canon stated the 7-series DSLRs had weather sealing equivalent to that on older 1-series DSLRs, e.g. the 1DIIN. The R7 has third-tier sealing similar to later xxD DSLRs, which is not as robust as the 7-series DSLRs.
It’s another way in which the R7 is not a mirrorless 7DIII.
Other than possibly Rebels (I haven't looked at them in well over a decade), not since before at least the 20D for Canon x0D and xD bodies.
20D-90D all have at least one guide hole in the body and at least one guide pin on the grip.
5D-5D Mark IV all have a guide hole in the body and guide pin on the grip.
6D and 6D Mark II both have a guide hole in the body and a guide pin on the grip.
7D and 7D Mark II both have a guide hole in the body and a guide pin on the grip.
The 1-Series have no guide holes, but the reason for that should be quite obvious.
They've all got guide holes.
I wish you were correct, but I don't think you are.
I had battery gripe for the T1i, 7D and 5DII. It’s been a while, but one or more of those (maybe all three?) held the two batteries transversely (front-to-back) on a ‘sled’, so the camera width would not be an issue. It meant the grip protruded both in front of and behind the body, and that’s why I find my 1D X and R3 far more comfortable to hold (the portrait grip only protrudes forward just like the main/landscape grip).Another reason why the R7 will not have a battery grip:
The camera's width can't accommodate two batteries side by side plus the housing of the grip. And the battery door is not removable (without force).
I had battery gripe for the T1i, 7D and 5DII. It’s been a while, but one or more of those (maybe all three?) held the two batteries transversely (front-to-back) on a ‘sled’, so the camera width would not be an issue. It meant the grip protruded both in front of and behind the body, and that’s why I find my 1D X and R3 far more comfortable to hold (the portrait grip only protrudes forward just like the main/landscape grip).
A non-removable battery door is the real issue, and that pretty much seals the deal that there won’t be a grip for the R7.
I had battery gripe for the T1i, 7D and 5DII. It’s been a while, but one or more of those (maybe all three?) held the two batteries transversely (front-to-back) on a ‘sled’, so the camera width would not be an issue. It meant the grip protruded both in front of and behind the body, and that’s why I find my 1D X and R3 far more comfortable to hold (the portrait grip only protrudes forward just like the main/landscape grip).
A non-removable battery door is the real issue, and that pretty much seals the deal that there won’t be a grip for the R7.
Battery grips still hold the batteries next to each other on a sled for the cameras that don't use the big LP-E4/E19 batteries. And yes some older models were pretty beefy and uncomfortable to hold in the vertical orientation.
The R7 is quite a bit smaller than the R5 body, two LP-E6NH next to each other are almost the same width as the body itself, so adding a grip around those two would've certainly added a lot of bulk to the camera. So I totally see why Canon doesn't offer one.
Battery grips still hold the batteries next to each other on a sled for the cameras that don't use the big LP-E4/E19 batteries. And yes some older models were pretty beefy and uncomfortable to hold in the vertical orientation.
The R7 is quite a bit smaller than the R5 body, two LP-E6NH next to each other are almost the same width as the body itself, so adding a grip around those two would've certainly added a lot of bulk to the camera. So I totally see why Canon doesn't offer one.
Thanks. It was the grip for the T1i that had the sleds. One for two of the camera’s dedicated batteries, and one for AA batteries.The 5D Mark II and 7D did not use a sled. They had a door on the back that flipped down and the batteries were inserted directly into the grip with the contacts facing forward. Instead of front-to-rear, they sat in tandem next to one another.
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Grips for the 60D, 50D, 40D, etc. were similar.
That’s one of the advantages on the 1-series and R3 – the controls in both orientations are a very close match, much more so than with an accessory battery grip (although I think some recent models came much closer).On previous bodies the 'Quick Control Dial' on the main body was just barely reachable using the thumb even in vertical orientation with a grip. Now that the 'QCD' has been moved to the top of the back to surround the joystick, that is no longer the case. They'd need to add a QCD to any grip, as well as another joystick , main dial, AE-L and AF-ON buttons, etc.
The 5D Mark II and 7D did not use a sled. They had a door on the back that flipped down and the batteries were inserted directly into the grip with the contacts facing forward. Instead of front-to-rear, they sat in tandem next to one another.
Grips for the 60D, 50D, 40D, etc. were similar.