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PhilDrinkwater
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At least our batteries don't overheat lol
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/24/nikon-en-el15-rechargeable-li-ion-battery-recall.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/24/nikon-en-el15-rechargeable-li-ion-battery-recall.aspx/
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markd61
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I'm sorry you are unhappy.
But seriously, do you expect your role as an early adopter to be risk free? The demands of production today are such that if product got shipped only when perfect we would still be using adding machines and paintbrushes.
I do not buy the first iteration of any product. Especially when the price premium is "defective" compared to the previous generation.
But seriously, do you expect your role as an early adopter to be risk free? The demands of production today are such that if product got shipped only when perfect we would still be using adding machines and paintbrushes.
I do not buy the first iteration of any product. Especially when the price premium is "defective" compared to the previous generation.
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nitsujwalker
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What's funny is that I think the "light leak issue" was found by people shooting with their lens cap on looking for noise! If there is no noticeable issue when shooting in a dim church for a wedding (realistic shooting environment) then I wouldn't take mine back (if I had one). But I understand why people are a little upset.
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Personally, I don't see the issue effecting my photos nor do I expect it will, so what do I care if it exists. I can see that some people will be worried it might effect the resale value of their camera if they have one with the designated serial number. I haven't even checked to see if I do, yet, though I did verify the effect is there with my body so I'm sure I do, but when testing I realized the effect wouldn't be noticeable in any photos so I just shrug my shoulders and shake my head at anyone who is upset about it. Frankly, I'm glad there isn't a problem with it that would effect my photos. The one problem I did have has already been addressed with the firmware update (was having the time sync issues with my files). As for this non-issue effecting my cameras' resale value, we'll I fully intend on wearing this camera out, so resale value will be effected far more by the fact that by the time I'm done with it, it will probably just be a paper weight anyway. I WILL BE LOVING THIS CAMERA TO DEATH!
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Michael7
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I wholeheartedly agree with this thread.
I only buy new gear. These lenses/bodies have been defective:
300 F4 L IS (severe front focus that took three trips to fix)
17-40L (would not focus past 30mm. Took two trips to resolve)
70-300 IS (portrait orientation issue, recalled by Canon)
7D (severe focus issues, took two trips to repair. Right LCD zoom button stuck after two days also)
70-200 F4 L (front focus issues, one trip to repair)
17-55 IS (IS died within one year)
50 1.4 (AF died within one year, and died again within one year)
Almost every Canon lens I buy requires micro focus adjust. I just don't trust them. I have so much invested in their gear, that I don't want to leave. But I really wish they'd join the rest of the industry and offer four year warranties if they're not going to perform quality control tests before shipping units.
I still can't believe they're selling $10,000 lenses with a one year warranty. That's inexcusable.
I only buy new gear. These lenses/bodies have been defective:
300 F4 L IS (severe front focus that took three trips to fix)
17-40L (would not focus past 30mm. Took two trips to resolve)
70-300 IS (portrait orientation issue, recalled by Canon)
7D (severe focus issues, took two trips to repair. Right LCD zoom button stuck after two days also)
70-200 F4 L (front focus issues, one trip to repair)
17-55 IS (IS died within one year)
50 1.4 (AF died within one year, and died again within one year)
Almost every Canon lens I buy requires micro focus adjust. I just don't trust them. I have so much invested in their gear, that I don't want to leave. But I really wish they'd join the rest of the industry and offer four year warranties if they're not going to perform quality control tests before shipping units.
I still can't believe they're selling $10,000 lenses with a one year warranty. That's inexcusable.
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Michael7 said:
I own or have owned 4 of the listed items and never had an issue (maybe it's hit or miss quality control) and don't need MA for any of the lenses 50 1.4, 70-200f4 or 17-40. But I can say that i've had problems with a Nikon d7000, 35mm 1.8... Both several trips to a very UNHELPFUL Nikon before supposedly fixing them... Yes I sold my Nikon stuff and came to Canon. Canon is NOT the only company who releases "problematic" cameras and lenses (if you want to call them that). If you believe a longer warranty is in need for a 10,000 lens, I cannot argue with that! But my point is just that Canon is one of 1000s of companies that do have little issues. Canon is ranked much higher than Nikon in customer service satisfaction and I understand why... Dealing with Nikon was worse than pulling teeth.
That said, I'm sorry about your issues with those lenses and 7d... I'd be pissed too.
EDIT:
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Nikon
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Canon
of course these types of scores could be biased... but I have found it to be accurate IN MY EXPERIENCE
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Michael7
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I'm not really upset anymore. I just don't buy as much stuff as I used to, and try to maximize what I have. And You can bet that when my setup is working perfectly, I do not mess with it. I no longer upgrade camera bodies if mine is working properly. This is more important to me than new features for the most part.
I tried the 5D III, and owned the 5D II. Nice cameras, but the 7D really does what I need it to, with my only major complaint being the sensor. They packed too many pixels onto it. It'd be an awesome 16MP camera.
I tried the 5D III, and owned the 5D II. Nice cameras, but the 7D really does what I need it to, with my only major complaint being the sensor. They packed too many pixels onto it. It'd be an awesome 16MP camera.
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YOU ARE RIGHT !!!!
In fact, all manufacturers should stop shipping defective products immediately. The fact that means than no product will ever be sold again anywhere is of no concern to me.
In fact, all manufacturers should stop shipping defective products immediately. The fact that means than no product will ever be sold again anywhere is of no concern to me.
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rpt said:
My 645D dropped thanks to a sunsniper shoulder strap disconnecting. Sent it away to be looked at thanks to a few buttons not working afterwards - wouldn't have bothered if it hadn't of been the drive button and the cable release socket. Just got the estimate: £1600/$2557 inc tax. Ouch! Have asked for clarification as the description of work suggests only replacing buttons, and for that price I would expect them to be solid gold!
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But if even as you say you haven't found the issue to be an issue then why the upset and the returns?
If you don't find it to be noticeable or to effect anything real world.... why such a big deal?
If you don't find it to be noticeable or to effect anything real world.... why such a big deal?
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When I started reading this forum I thought several posters offered useful advice. After visiting regularly for 3-4 months, I gave it up a couple of weeks ago. I decided to check back tonight. I quickly remembered why I left. See you folks.....I'd rather be out to taking pictures.
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